It's STUCK! Can We Get This BIG Cylinder Apart!? | Hitachi ZX470 Cylinder Rebuild | Part 1

It's STUCK! Can We Get This BIG Cylinder Apart!? | Hitachi ZX470 Cylinder Rebuild | Part 1

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how you going guys Kurtis from Cutting Edge  engineering today we're going to get started   on rebuilding a cylinder for our exchange fleet  so this is offer Hitachi ZX470 Excavator it is   actually the Dipper arm cylinder so it connects  from the boom and then controls the dipper arm   so we were really lucky to get our hands on this  these are off a newer series excavator and there   are still a lot of them around and these are quite  a high turnover part so it will be good to get one   of these refurbished and put on the shelf for  one of our customers but rebuild components   generally need a lot of work and this cylinder is  no exception so what I know about this it has done   about 8 000 hours on the machine the customer  did take it off in order to get it resealed   they tried to disassemble it they couldn't get  the rod out of the barrel which generally says   that there's been an internal failure something  pretty serious so what I'm expecting has happened   is the piston and the barrel have contacted each  other they've started to make metal and they have   jammed themselves together unfortunately our  customer couldn't wait for us to rebuild this   and we didn't have any in stock so they purchase  it from another supplier we bought this cylinder   off them to rebuild it and put it into our  exchange fleet so we're going to be looking   at re-barrel a new piston potentially repairing  the gland and I don't believe the rod's going   to be in bad shape but we're not going to know  until we get this thing apart that's if we can   get it apart because someone else tried  to do it and they couldn't pull it apart they weren't tight righto so I have split the gland away from the  head flange and I can see down inside   there it does look pretty messy like things  have been extremely hot so I don't want to   pull the gland out with the rod just yet  I need to keep it in place because it is   the only thing holding the barrel and the rod  in alignment if I was to pull it out it might   the rod might sag down a little bit which would  cause the piston to pinch in the barrel we'll   give it the best chance we can to get it out  by keeping everything in alignment what I'm   going to do is put one bolt back through the  gland into the head flange to hold it in place   and then I'm going to attach the eye to the  forklift and just pull it out a little bit   and then I can attach the crane to it and try  and pull the rod completely out of the barrel [Karen] woah you're moving the press righto so I did manage to get the  rod to move about 500 mil but it   has now stopped and the press doesn't  have enough physical weight for me to   pull on this any harder so I'm going to  take it out of the press go and tie it   to something really heavy and we're going to  try and drag the rod the rest of the way out [Karen] oh no huh right so we managed to get the rod free of the  barrel now that everything's open we can sort   of see what's going on inside it looks like the  seals are not genuine and they have been coming   apart for quite a long time one of those seals  is really deformed it looks like it would have   taken pressure from the bottom side but none  of the other seals behind it are damaged so   I'd say that was during the assembly process  they've pinched the seal and simply pushed   the rod home and no one's caught it and I also  found a few bits of material that is the barrel   and the piston so we're going to get it put on a  pallet take it inside and have a closer look at it so I've taken a quick look inside the barrel the scoring is from one end all the way to   the other and it is extremely deep there is no way  we're going to hone this back and be able to use   it so this is going to need a rebarrel but we'll  put this one aside and we'll get the rod apart   so now we can see the extent of the damage on  the piston we do have damage in two areas one   is far worse than the other it looks to me  that the seals have worn out and the Piston   has contacted the barrel and then it just  starts to make metal from there it is one   of those things that is quite common for dipper arm cylinders because the cylinder spends   the majority of its life horizontally there is  a lot of weight pushing down on them and the   seals do wear out quite quickly so I don't know  when this was resealed last but genuine parts   weren't put back in it these are aftermarket and  they have started to break down cylinders aren't   a forever thing like everything on a machine  they do need servicing just because cylinders   are not leaking doesn't mean they don't need to  be rebuilt or need some attention this cylinder   wasn't actually leaking the customer did notice  a sound coming out of the cylinder while they   were cycling the dipper arm one of the other big  problems is a lot of customers don't go through   the process of their oil sampling and sending  that back to the manufacturer so they can then   test the sample Hitachi would have known it  was a hydraulic part that was failing obviously this customer doesn't do that  otherwise they would have picked this   up early and the cylinder wouldn't have got this  bad so not only does it need a new barrel but it   is going to need a new piston as well next thing  I'm going to do is get the rest of this disassembled so the way the grub screw works it actually  pushes a little ball into the rod and stops   it from undoing itself once they do that  up they generally center pop the side of   the grub screw so it can't undo itself and fall  out into the barrel so I do see my fair share   of cases where people haven't undone the grub  screw and remove the ball and they simply try   to undo the nut and then it destroys the end of  the rod and generally the nut at the same time now that we've got that undone we're gonna   undo the nut this is just me being hopeful noooo righto so the stilsons didn't work that  was sort of being a little bit hopeful I'm   not going to go and push them because I  will just end up breaking them I would   usually use a flogging spanner but I did  lend mine out to a guy I know and it never   got returned I am going to chuck it in the ute take it over to a mate's place and he's just   going to crack the nut for me then we can  bring it back and finish the disassembly [snuffles] [squeeeak] [squeak SQUEAK] so now we've got the nut cracked we  can continue to disassemble the rod so now with all those off we're going  to get the bush pressed out of the eye degreaser so with the rod cleaned up I can see  there are no scratches dents or even   chips in the chrome it is in pretty good  condition it is quite dull in the working   area because that is pretty standard  now I'm going to use a micrometer in   four or five different locations just to make  sure the rod is still in spec that's 129.99 0.02 undersized 0.02 130 on the button when I mic cylinder rods  I always make sure that the rod is in the   correct orientation as if it was mounted on  the excavator or the dozer and that is because   of the way the cylinder works it'll wear the  top and the bottom of the rod out so miking it in that orientation is going to pick up  if there's anywhere in the working zone of   the cylinder so the rod should be 130 mil in  diameter in the working area of the rod it is   129.98 so that is 0.02 of a mil undersized  which is well within spec so overall this  

cylinder Rod's in pretty good shape the eye is  still in really good condition it hasn't got any   cracks inside it and there is no excessive  wear from the bush turning the threads on   the end are in good shape the silicon bronze  are still within spec the chrome does look a   little bit dull so all I'm going to need to do  is polish the chrome and we can reuse this rod   in our cylinder so the next thing I need to do  I need to do an inspection on the cylinder gland righto so I'm going to start by removing the  O-ring and its backup ring that seals the gland   to the barrel then I'm going to remove  the little locking wire that holds the   bearing in place then I can turn the gland back  over and do the rest of the work from the top so that's the wiper seal removed what this does  is wipe all the dirt and the dust off the rod   before it gets sucked back into the cylinder  so this is its only layer of protection from   the outside elements so there are a few ways that  rods can be protected there are shields that go   over the cylinder rod and they are sort of like an  accordion they do work quite well but they do trap   a lot of dirt and debris inside them and then you  can't tell that the cylinder is leaking oil unless   you actually pull it off and check it out so  they're generally more trouble than they're worth   because they do stretch and they close up and  they start to tear and then they fall apart anyway   so this is the backup ring for the u-cup this  sits on top of the u-cup seal and basically   as it says it backs it up so it can't  invert itself or roll itself inside out   see that it's smeared so that's  the rod rubbing against the gland so that is the u-cup seal that is the  main pressure seal from inside the   cylinder these will hold back about 3000  psi while the machine is in operation as   the hydraulic pressure goes this way  when it's cycling the ram it oil gets   forced into that groove and squeezes that  against the rod so it can't bypass oil so that's the buffer seal you can see inside  the buffer seal it also has a bit of wear on   it where the rod has been sitting on it  these are a two-part seal so you have a   rubber outer ring that goes in first  and then the plastic ring or polymer   ring that goes in over the top this is  also used to help hold back pressure so that there is the bearing which stops  the rod from contacting the gland while it is in   operation a lot of different excavators out there  will run a polymer or a plastic style wear band   hitachi's run these metal cage wear bands there  is a polymer on top and then underneath that is a   much softer material so if they do end up wearing  through it it doesn't contact the cylinder gland   and damage the rod so it's actually done its job  and stopped the rod from colliding with the gland   the gland is actually in really good condition  the seals were in really good condition so we   can reuse this all I'm going to do is give it a good cleanup and sand blast it to remove the paint so the other parts I removed off the rod  was an expansion ring and that goes underneath   the cushion bearing and that is designed so  when hydraulic oil gets in underneath them it   expands and holds the choke in the center of  the rod so it can then go inside the head and   slow down the cylinder so the expansion ring is  in really good condition there is no reason for   that to be damaged so I will reuse that because  I don't believe the seal kits come with a new one   and over the top of that is the choke also known  as a cushion bearing and the cushion bearings in   good condition there is no reason to replace  that and then there's the piston I am just   going to take those seals off so you can sort  of see the extent of the damage on the piston look at the metal in it so that's our cylinder completely disassembled I need to make a new piston make a new barrel   before I can fit the new seals  and the bushings and reassemble it but you'll have to stay tuned for  the next video thanks for watching So today we're going to get started on rebuilding  a cylinder for our exchange fleet [Karen] yep right ready   [Karen] yeah oh it's pretty munted but it's it's not [ __ ] munted the next thing we need to do is get this fully assem mmm [train going past] righto [air compressor] so I have [compressor again] hmmm [compressor AGAIN] ughmmm hhhmmmm [Karen] why is this being so painful I don't know so all I'll need to do is give the rod a polish   that sounds bad [giggle] so all I'm going to need to do is polish up the rod [Karen] just stop saying rod right   right so all I'm gonna [Karen] just and stop saying right right [giggles] [Karen] just not right so any other starting but right so no but how did you start it after that right so that's ugh right so [pfffttt] right so that's our cylinder [Laughter] oh [ __ ] come on put the camera back up stop laughing you make it take too long [Laughter] mmmmm uh oh [Karen] oh my God can you go turn the power point on the wall [Karen] there's just bits falling off everywhere [Karen] [giggle] I'm so distracted right now ahhh goodbye birds no they're not leaving [Karen] ah far out they're having fun they won't be [bang clang] [ __ ] off [Karen] they're not there's a new one [Laughter] [staffy grunts] drop it Homey hey get it let's go [Karen] and then when you're finished just walk off and I'll pan down but you'll have to stay tuned  for the next video thanks for watching   but you'll have to stay tuned for the  next video thanks for watching [Laughter] I can't

2023-09-14 09:15

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