What made you decide to start your own creative business? - American Bandito Season 2 Ep 1
Just, a quick announcement before we start today's show if you like live music and you live in the Madison area on January. 26th. 2018. It's a new year so I wanted to make that clear it. Kind of rhymed my. Band Lorenzo's music will be playing at the frequency, along, with boo Bradley and negative. Example, you. Can check out our music at Lorenzo's. Music.com, Friday. January, 26th. At the. Frequency, hope to see you there now, on with the show. I'm. Tom Rey and this is American band Dido. This. Season, I'm gonna be doing things a little bit differently, season. One I met, random, artists in town but, this season I go. To different places around town in Madison these places are businesses, that were started by creatives. And help, promote other people's art their galleries, their shops their, furniture stores their, consignment, places and pop ups I, wanted. To talk to them to find out how they got where they are how they decided to take their stuff one step further and I thought maybe that this would be kind of an inspirational. Thing not just to me but to those of you listening. So. Over the course of this season each episode will be me asking, these ten different places one, question, and maybe, it, will kind of shed some light on what I, myself, or you or anyone out there listening, who's a creative person could, be doing to maybe, promote, themselves a little bit more get the work that they make out there. So. I'm gonna start this week by introducing the, different places that we'll be talking to to get a feel for where we are I'm gonna start out in downtown Madison, and work our way around town from there and the. Question this week is what. Made you decide to start your own business. So. Let's begin on State, Street my name is Demetrius Morgan and I'm the executive, director of the Yellow Rose gallery, my. Name is Micah Henning and I'm the president of the board of directors for the arrows gathering, so. Located, on the 100 block of State Street and you might miss it if you don't know it's there the Yellow Rose occupies, several. Floors of this one building it's like it's like a nice flat with, hardwood floors a place that I'd want to live it almost seemed like a person did live there and they decided to clear out the furniture it, was actually kind of cool so. Demetrius, found me there and he took me to an even larger place, a few floors up this, room had even bigger pieces but it was with conference, tables, and it was on a carpeted, floor I didn't, know that they didn't own the place but, they do take care of it for the actual owner I wanted to find out how they got involved with it well. First I started off as an artist I would create websites, I would, create posters. I would get, the word out a little bit more and I wanted to be an, asset, so the young galleries went from being an artist to becoming, navvies, that could have directed, because of my I, would, say my integrity, my fiance is an artist he shows her, works here so I wanted to help the agency. Yellow, his gallery was actually it was an LLC it was a for-profit art, gallery oh and, I helped convert it into a non-profit how, did you propose it it, actually wasn't my proposal, the founder Ron and wanted, to become nonprofit because he. Knew that he wouldn't be able to be involved as often, as he had, I mean it was very time-consuming work, given. That it was a community driven all right gallery he thought that the best way to ensure its survival was. To make a non-profit, how did you do that we. Dissolved the LLC, and you. Know file Articles, of Incorporation for. Non-stock, is that really how simple it is it's it's your file to, say that you're a nonprofit yeah, you dissolve, the for-profit, and then you create a new nonprofit what's, the benefit. Of a non-profit as opposed to an LLC I understand, he couldn't be involved but as a community driven thing what's the benefit I will, be able to receive donations people.
Would Get tax benefits and then we don't have to pay taxes on a lot of things so through donations, is that something, that would subsidize, keeping. The place open rather than counting. On selling, the art yes while, that gallery does. I forgot what percentage they, do earn a certain, portion of art sales most, of it goes to the artists themselves what, is the difference between that. And something like crowdfunding. You, get. Small monies from lots and lots of people this is similar except we don't have as many people are, this sums larger, no, okay, just we've got a lot less money then I don't even be going into your into your financials. Here I'm just curious I said we're nonprofit my financial sets a good point that's see, that's it's hard to it's it's hard for my mind to think that way which is why I'm asking this time like because I know a lot of the places around town are nonprofits. And I'm curious as to the. Benefit, of it because I don't know what that is were you working here when it was a. LLC. No so you had no idea what basically. How the place handle itself before that no I didn't, have any I don't have any visibility into that I just attended the events so, I got to know the owner and, then he came. To me when he decided that you, should become a prophet, did you have a background her I do have a background of nonprofits, okay I serve in a couple other parts yeah I ask what those are stop heroin now and, the Wisconsin, Coalition Against Sexual Assault or casas all, of a sudden I feel like I don't do very many times in my time. Madison. Has a lot of great artists, out here we did a near-future we also want to be educating. The community, with. Some classes, or something that's artistic, to help build the community in, an, artistic way how do you reach out to the community during, one of our last events, we had a 9/11. Commemoration art benefit so it only made sense to me to reach out to the fire department and to, the Red Cross and we actually, did a blood drive slash. 9/11. Commemoration art, benefit, so in the morning time as people was donating, their blood for that event we was also promoting, artworks and promoting, the gallery, by having, artworks. In artists, paintings. From from, this gallery to, go to their, establishment. How about you what made you decide that this is what you wanted to do I like to be a part of mission. Driven agencies, like to build things that you, know help a group of people actually believe, in. Now. The next stop is, also on State Street and, it's just one block down from the Yellow Rose gallery I'm, Laura ku my and my. Sister and I co-own, the, story anthology, anthology. Is across from the Overture Center and the. Madison Museum of Contemporary Art, and this cozy place is filled with different items prints, and buttons just to name a few things as my wife and I waited for Laura to finish up ringing up customers. We. Had a look around and it, was then that I actually here's a weird story I looked, up and I, saw. Standing, in front of me Greg Proops now you may, know him as one of the regulars, on the show whose line is it anyway he's the guy with the glasses and the bouffant hair I just I just thought it was neat I looked up and was like I said hey Greg Proops and he, just pissed about me and then walked out it was really, weird anyway when Laura was done we, sat down at a table in the store and it, was covered with handmade buttons, and pins and behind, Laura there was like a repurposed. Farmhouse, sink and cabinet, it, kind of made the place feel like we were in someone's home so what made her decide to open her own business I. We been 10, years at this local gift store a lot of luxuries so I was. Kind of familiar, with the retail setting, and had basically worked my way up from. Sales associate, into assistant. Manager and manager. I like the retail setting it was really strictly a gift store and that's always what it was that's, what it was supposed to be I think as a manager, that I was kind of like a little. Confined. By. That, definition. Of what that store, was supposed to be and I kind of started to see that the. Components, that I wanted, it, wasn't really something that I could fit into someone else's idea of a store it was really something that I needed to start, from scratch to kind of formulate, one kind, of store we would have so, you felt like you were doing their research by working there there's a lot of people who would, say, if you're gonna open your own business you should have an MBA and you should study how to own a business but for me it was really just like on the ground, learning. From, the beginning you know first I was a sales associate, at a department store and then I moved to a small local business and so I kind of understood, the, difference between the corporate world and, independent.
Local, Retail in, doing self saw, pieces that I wanted, to create, myself and, also the experience is firm where I mean you can teach the, concepts, but you can't teach the actual. Yeah. But. I really sort of felt that there was this creative. Component, which. Was missing for. Myself personally but, also for, customers. And so, the, overall mission of Anthology, is to facilitate, creativity. And so it was kind of this. Extra piece which I felt. That I needed. Now. We're gonna leave the State Street area and we're gonna head towards Williamson, Street to a coffee place where the owner sells coffee and, he also supports, local art and the. Music scene and he's also very. Involved in it my name is John Hien I'm one of the owners at mother fools coffee, house on the east side of Madison I also. Run, a small record label I freelance as a photographer. I do music video. Editing, so, if you've ever driven down willy street you've seen this place the outside has a colorful, mural, painted on the side of it and it's always different. So. John tells me his first entrepreneurial. Experience. Started. When he was fifteen, he created. His own Christmas, Club for family and friends with. A membership. Fee and he. Would deposit the money into CDs. At the bank and whenever I had a hundred dollars, total I would bike to the neighborhood. Savings and loan and buy a certificate. Of deposit and by the beginning of December I was able to give everyone a very hefty rate of return as well as a really nice profit for myself and that was my my. First business that made money I'll say that you, were humbled I was 15 it was right at the height of the, Savings. And Loan scandal. You, know but at that time you could buy CDs, for six months for $100 at 18%, interest, why did you know that at, 50 I was interested in math in business. Myself. And the other owner Stephanie. Rear ik played in a band together in the early 90s, that was booked here and other fools and that's how I got to know the owner the old owner her name was Jean just, through that context, of, having. Worked with her and she must have thought we had our act together, so. She offered, to sell and I. Was. In no position financially, to, do that I had no, credit I had no savings but, eventually we worked out the deal where she made a no interest loan to us to be able to do it so I really feel like it was a gift, well. There's something I bought I bought it over the next three years out of revenue. Oh is it a good business decision probably, not and we were undercapitalized and, that's been difficult for our entire 22, year run we've never been properly, capitalized. You know so that's a trick. And. It. Was losing a lot of money you know so it's not an obvious choice, you gotta be you don't just go like all right go to the store and get us some coffee beans will grind them up you I'm sure you have to pick a wholesaler, we had a number of goals when we started this business one was to, move it towards. More of an environmental consciousness. Both, Stephanie and me came. From Greenpeace, that's where we first met, so if we're gonna run a business we want to do it in the most sustainable way possible, and. When your base. Business is selling a tropical, product, right let's shimmy around, the world you've got an uphill, to make it sustainable, I mean that's just a fact the previous owner Jean was. Selling, coffee from El Tara out of Milwaukee our goal was to do a hundred percent organic coffee, well, Tara had some organics, but it wasn't entirely in the house blood was not organic here at that time so. We were gonna look for a more, local. Coffee. Wholesaler, but. Jean. Convinced, us I'm grateful for this to just drive over to Milwaukee meet with the owners of this company, see. What they can do for us they're. Awesome we had a wonderful afternoon and. Found. That they really shared our values, they were very concerned about organic, and supporting, the farmers so, we, worked. With them to change the house blend to, completely. Organic coffee. So that was one of the first things we did and then we've done with them ever since they changed their name to colectivo, so mother fools was one of their first out of Milwaukee customers. And we've been with them now our. Whole run 22 years you, know they've helped us a lot during, our first. Expansion. Which was in 1997. Which built this room we're sitting in our credit, was not well, established we.
Did Not have ability, to go to a bank and get a loan for, it but altaira. Actually. Extended us terms which is a form of giving a loan into a business so, whatever your suppliers help normally, their terms are 30 days meaning. Any product that they deliver they expect payment for within 30 days they. Let us extend our terms to one year you, know which is basically a $20,000. So that was really, kind of them and then they let us you know gradually, come back, into terms within about three years and, you weren't kidding that going down there was actually, a good idea well they were great you know and it makes sense from their business perspective, why. Not give. A loan to a, small, cafe in Madison that's gonna keep selling your product just kind of shows like well that's a don't, judge a book by its cover sort of situation, you know I've learned that lesson over and over yeah it's really easy to go, into any situation with assumptions huh, it's usually not healthy. Now. A couple more blocks down on Willy Street right. Across from the coop is, a. Unique, industrial, modern furniture. Shop I'm Kyle Sullivan I'm. Owner. Operator, of, pieces. On imagined, and the interior statement, I'm really strict now this place is filled with large tables, cabinets lights, and things like that most. Seem to be mixtures of wood and metal and each one is completely different, which is how Kyle meant it to be so. We sat at one, of these large tables, in one, of the now two connected. Stores and he, told me what he did before opening, the store and what. Led up to deciding. To, open this place I ran an antique shop that, was the world's largest selection of antique advertising, in the world main, TV advertising, like actual metal plates and all that kind of stuff signage. Anything, you'd find in the general store a, pharmacy. What, a blacksmith, would has so anything that the general public was not really meant to have would. Be my specialty, and so we did that for years and then I decided to give back and I. Started a church and did. That for a decade and then I went hired from that now I'm do what, I want to do okay. How. Long ago did you retire from the church four, years ago what, made you decide this. Was the type of place you wanted to open well because, this is the stuff that I have always loved but, nobody else did, for, years so in, the.
Antique Business, this, kind of stuff wasn't. Really pop, was relegated to the bargain-basement the, industrial, modern feel, well. It. Was about ten. Years ago that industrial, modern started to hit the Midwest and it was fantastic and, I'm like can you believe that people actually finally, appreciate, what this is and. I'm like I want to be part of that I want, to be someone. Who offers. It I want to be somebody who helps people figure out how they can get it into their houses and part, of the factors, in is that, I've had matchy-matchy, house, before, I've had the, the mahogany, office, and I've had mission note throughout the whole house and even. Far back we had Victorian, I hate. That so. Now. In, context, so if, it's usable, and if, it's beautiful, and it, works with your lifestyle, then you should have that but, you can go ahead and mix the deco you can mix Victorian. You can have industrial hotter, and you can put it all together and, if you love it that's awesome and so that's one of the ways that we're helping people see and picture. How they can actually do that and then in particular things, that aren't so big box so. That your, neighbor doesn't have it and that's where the art comes in, so, now you start taking, industrial. Metal legs, from 1870. Throw a slab of wood from 1890. On it and now you got this table that nobody else has and, it lasts absolutely. Forever unless, you purposely, destroy, the guy and, then. The. Artist gets, itself on display they, are sturdy I will I will admit that one of our claim. To fame on our furniture with. Almost no exception, you can dance on all of our furniture whether it's that, or not so, if you ever make a commercial we already know what the pins you know okay. One. More place on Willy Street just, down the corner from pieces. Unimaginative. One. Shop also and ended, up expanding, into the space next to it to my name is Tammy schreiter, and I'm, the owner of hatch art house and also. Hazel general store the hatch art house is right, by the crystal corner on Willy Street has, a huge selection, of creative, pieces with, their own local, artist touch and the hazel general stores for items that people who, make those types of things might need for themselves so what made her decide, to, open her own business so hatch arthouse is seven, years old in december, and, hazel. General stores two and a half years old and then last, year in october, so exactly a year ago we tore the, wall down to, make it easier for our customers. Of both shops to walk. It between, the shops so it was separated, Oh always, yeah I just got the okay for my landlord to, tear. The wall down and that's, how it, happened, by doing so well with one that you just expand. It into the space next to you it opened, up so the the store not next was shrunk basically, was just kind of brainstorming. With some friends like what do I want to be next door to me who would, be a great neighbor you know all those questions, and. From. Having a chart house for so long I've I, know what, a lot of the neighborhood and neighborhood, customers. Are looking for and so. I just went from that and that's where the modern-day general store came from it, focuses, on what our neighborhood. Needs, somebody, was asking me for a. Great, backpack when, they were over at hatch like where can i buy something. That's well made and I, don't have to travel to, the mall or I don't even want to go downtown I want to stay here in my neighborhood so that's where the the, concept, of heizo.
Came From. It. Just became a time you know I hit. 40 and I was like I need, to do. Something else and I need to do something that's very fulfilling for me and, that I will. Feel passionate, about but, I really needed to work. With other artists, I felt like that was my passion, or, I something, I still feel that way but that's what drove me to. Basically. Just. Leave everything and. Take. What I the, money that I saved and, move. Back to Wisconsin it, was really just a it came from a need of having. Art. Galleries, that were really casual. And made people feel comfortable going. Into them and and weren't just for the upper-class, so, to speak, I remember, going into our, galleries when I was younger and just feeling. Like, I didn't belong and that the people working there made me feel that way as well that, all grew into my yearning basically, to open up, my own art gallery someday. That was casual. And you. Know something for everybody, price, points, for, everyone, I loved. Upcycling. And reusing, things just, a need, to try to keep things over. The landfill as much as possible. Now. We're gonna move out to the Atwood, location, over, by revolution. Bikes and the, Ohio tavern, my name is MIA Broder s'en and I'm the owner of the stone fence we, sat down on a couple of chairs right at the front section of the store by the picture window and people, continued, to look around as we. Set up let's, find out why she decided to start her own business and before we got started I had to bring up this strange connection that Mia and I both have, had over the years we randomly. Known each other for, some, reason over the years yeah because, you knew people I knew we've just both been in Madison our whole life yes that's. How this town works. I kept. Driving past this vacancy. It used to be absolutely art on the way to work that's what this place was for, nine years this is absolutely, art so it was kind of easy. To, slide. In the neighborhood was already used to being able to pop. In and buy things here so, I kept driving past and. Thinking. Oh that would be really close to home that would be a great spot and so, it just kind of happened that way my lease was up and this. One was vacant, the. Original. Owner of stone fencing did you say she retired or retired, yeah she retired I purchased it and I've tried other things I, left, and worked in an accounting firm and I tried substitute, teaching and, I, just. Liked retail, okay, every day is different you, know you're not stuck in an office so, I, just, enjoyed it yeah. I don't know how I would describe it but it was not what it is today not at all we had in, the 90s we you, know we were on the collectible, bandwagon, and went through collectible. That's what I was looking for we a lot more kitchen, housewares. It. Was it was just a different it was a different ballgame completely, what, made you decide to go the direction that you did go with this place I used. To do art I don't need more but I was an art major in college this, is kind of me where the other one wasn't the other, one was I can run this the way it is but it wasn't really me this. Is more me where did you go to school for it uw-madison. Fine, art mostly, oil paintings, and sculpture did you decide to do this because you knew artists, because I don't think right away you started, bringing. In local, I start in here, right away we did I had tried to a little bit at Hilldale and, it just didn't fly there at. All well yeah, they, stuck you in front of the grocery store too so that probably had something to do with that yeah, foot traffic pretty much died there. Now. We're gonna take a left off of that one and go towards Milwaukee Street tucked, away in one of the side streets over there there's a warehouse that is the location for a new creative, facility, for local artists I am Sarah arts I'm the founder and owner of 1/1000. Which is a Madison. Wisconsin, based creative. Studio when, you pull up the outside is very large, and nondescript, to look at it the, walls are covered with white metal siding and it looks like a place where trucks probably, might, load and unload things, when, you're walking in you realize that they're super high ceilings, and I, mean it just looks like an industrial, place and it's filled with artists equipment and printing stations, and work tables, for you to do stuff on it's, just all packed. With equipment. And just like the Yellow Rose, 1/1000.
Is A membership-based, location. But it's not a nonprofit, organization, I, actually. Specifically. Chose not to be a non-profit because, I feel like if I'm supposed to be helping makers. And creatives build sustainable, businesses, then I should be able to do the same thing yes, a membership, organization means. That people can pay, a membership fee and belong whether. Or not they need the space to create does. It matter as much it's more so that they want to be part of a professional, network and the reason I ask is because one, of the galleries I talked to just, turn to a non-profit one of the things they do is they do membership. Programs so to help sustain the nonprofit that's, why I thought I'd check membership. Models for our nonprofits, are very typical thing for us to even be in the arts and be a for-profit, or, an LLC is different, in the game of arts scene in general and for the membership that's where people to come by not for you still rent spaces here as well people join because they want to be a part of this network. That helps them grow stronger, businesses, and helps them connect to peers, for collaborations. And support and some. People also need space so, they might rent suyo space from us or get involved with a lot of the events I. Was. An art major in college and, I decided that I, needed to find something where I could get a real job I, didn't, know what I would do with an art degree the art degree was very focused. On painting, and drawing and typical, things which never really spoke to me as much and so when, I graduated, I got a job in marketing which was a different type of creativity, but. It never really felt, like the right type of creativity, for me and so, but, eight years into my career I started doing upholstery, on the side and so, when I did upholstery, I felt this is this really cool, hands-on. Type of creativity, where I could furnish my, house that I had just bought and I could like build, furniture like all these possibilities, felt, open to me and so, then I wanted to find more. Of that community I'm like okay so now we're all my people all like where can I go to like do upholstery with people where can I find cool handmade fabric, where are these other types of artists that I see in Brooklyn. And Nashville and Grand Rapids in different places and I saw that there, were a lot of really, cool people doing, things in the city but a lot of them didn't feel connected to a creative community I'd always known that I wanted to start a business but I didn't know what and it, kind of all came together at the same time and I said I think something, could happen here, and it's happened in other places and, so I'm gonna quit my career and, try to build this community I want to, be a pilot. Now. We're gonna leave here and go to the Far East Side, now I've lived in Madison my whole life and a lot of people like to think that where we just were Willy, Street and Atwood Avenue is the east side and always, have to tell them it's not there's. Still quite a few more miles left to go from there and how do I know because that's the east side I grew up with and in that area is my old high school and past that at the, very end of Monona Drive is the. Next place I visited right, by the Beltline. It's owned by two people, who we, realized, I went to high school with them I'm Leah Robertson, and I, paint most the furniture, and do the displays, with. 121 and I'm Rebecca Abe and I, do all the stuff she doesn't like to do. I, didn't. Know that there were so many people like, Sarah from 1/1000, and Kyle from pieces on imagined, who so, that there were so many furniture, places like this it, seems that it's also what began this process for Lea at booth 121, it started out with just needing. Furniture, for my first house and not. Having necessarily. The money or being, able to find the style that I want it I'd have one of my grandmother's old tables and a bunch of leftover paint and hey I'll paint this and make it fit for what I want it and so, I did it as a hobby for probably, no, over, 20 years I saw that painted, furniture was getting popular and that's what prompted me I did my first show and saw okay I I think I have something here because I tend, to go a little and the wild side with my pieces but, people were responding to it and I thought okay, let's make this happen so you just picked it up one day just decided you want to go to it and selling. With your facebook I had a booth at the antique, mall hence, the name I was in booth 121, and I got. A glorified.
Storage. Unit and my furniture hoard there and would have open houses every once in a while and would also do craft shows that, crafty, Fair was the big one that I would do that just got to be too, much and too hard on my body and, Holland's. Stuff around when you were doing it on Facebook. How were you actually selling, her wares it just I would have things at the antique mall and again I would promote the shows and then I would also do Commission pieces so people would bring me their a piece of furniture and I paint that for them you didn't have a card or anything like that under use Facebook payments, no depeche shows and then it had these open houses every once in a while at my storage, unit and so. Over there Rebecca approached me you know she was bartending. A lot and looking, to do something else and she's. Got a business background I, went to school for it and said. Well let's open up a retail. Store, I knew a lot of people from doing the craft show circuit, we brought them in on consignment, and, that's. Where it started, and put my job at Dean, Medical. Center worked. There full-time for, 16, 17, years really. Yeah I couldn't sit, behind the computer one more day yeah. I worked, in reporting, so it was all analytics. And. So. From a Nona Drive you can get on the Beltline and on the Beltline and head all the way west to the very west of Madison out by Airport Road and, you'll find the next place that I went to Anastasia, Corbett's, and I am the owner of confection. Inc now when I say Airport Road it isn't just a name there's literally, a personal, airport out there I walked into the building and I was greeted by a sign on the door welcoming, me and when I walked into the shop I was also greeted by a very friendly Bonjour, my French accent is horrible so that sounded weird now much like Lea at booth 121, Anastasia. Started, out with a booth at craft shows and she, did this in her spare time alongside, her day job how did it become the type of place he wanted I was, traveling, to Paris before I opened, confectionery. But I was doing, small craft, shows, and, the. Things that, I always gravitated. Toward were making, things that to, me felt like something. I would find in a boutique in Paris, just the, colors, and just I don't know just certainly, being spy inspired, by by, Paris in general the things I was making in general related. A lot to French goods in some way or another and so that, just kind of followed along it's always been the, things that I've enjoyed making and, now it's just like a bigger version of my little booths that I want to have. When. You first started like how did it start out well, when, it first started, I just didn't have the best of displays, and when I started a long time ago I actually had a business partner for, about two years and then she and I worked on it together and it was just kind of very bare-bones and. Then she. Went off and started her own business, and, then I've continued, this song ever, since and it's, grown. In that I've, sort of learned a lot from the customers, about what they like I know you've said, that you go to Paris, and view. What's going on there and then bring it back you actually. Do that I do my, husband and I go to Paris twice a year typically. From. The moment I saw Paris years, and years ago I fell in love with it and everybody. Has their I fell in love with that place you know some people it's Door County some, people it's up north, people it's in Mexico. But my place, that I love right away was, Paris so, from the beginning I have shipped.
Things Home I. Am. A recently retired social. Worker actually, I worked at UW, Hospital. With. Dialysis, patients, for. Over. 20 years and, this. Was always an outlet for me after. Working in that, setting it's kind of my self care working, with people who are living with chronic illness, helps. You have a, better. Perspective on your own life and I learn things about don't. Wait to do some of the things you really want to do don't. Put. Off some till tomorrow what you can do today you know all of those things that seem kind of trite but really are very true so were you doing this and, and that okay, and when did you start when. Did I start this shop yeah I think, that's been about eight years now, that I've done this shop my, goal was always oh I was going to finish up that the as, a dialysis, social worker and then I would have much more time to devote to, this it. Would be go, to work come here at night work. You, know set up go, home go, to work it was tough but I've loved it so much that it's it's. It's. Named confection. Eek I made up that name I looked at a bunch of different names online, and I was, getting so frustrated and. Then my husband finally said you know you just simply have to make up a name I think. That's just the only way it's gonna work and so I thought about eek. Eek, I quue like confection, eek and so I thought you know that's, boutique. And whatnot is that's, a phrase or the end, of a word you often see in Paris so I thought that would be the perfect something. To pair with eek and, then confection. I decided, upon because I really wanted to be sweet but. In a whole different way. Not. With calories but, with sweetness. In a whole different way. Now. From the farthest west side of Madison I'm, gonna head back downtown and on my way right off of John Nolen Drive I make a stop at one more place Jamie rush key the. Name of my business is a bohemian bauble and I make jewelry the, bohemian bauble isn't a shop or a store it's, Tami's, home it's, funny she had a dog running around who at first was very friendly but as. We started recording and, it started barking so we had to put it upstairs was still a nice talk now, the interesting thing about Tammy is as she, didn't even start out thinking. About making jewelry, or selling it so what, made her decide to. Start her own business. Started. Way, back when I was in my early 20s, a friend taught me how to make jewelry one holiday when I didn't have a bunch of money for gifts so she had been making jewelry for a long time so, she showed me how to make some earrings and I loved it, and so. I kind of ran with it and it just grew. From there like it started by, gifting. Things to family, and friends and, then. People actually wanting, to buy the things from me and, this. Whole time I still had a day job so I did, the jewelry on the side and I did that for years and years and then, finally one year I went and I'm, leaving the day job and I'm going full. Out so you were making enough to do, that or if you yea decided, at my day job at the time there, was some stuff going on where they were laying off a lot of people and so, I got offered a voluntary, layoff and it. Was like it, the moment, where. I saw the fork in the road I thought. There's, never gonna be another time for me to get have. Such a great opportunity because I got a little severance package, and I had health and dental coverage for like six months it felt like a gift to me and, like I'd be silly to turn my back on it I've had zero regrets, looking, back but, I would say when I started I, started with not the greatest supplies face metals, and cheaper. Beads some, might even have been plastic. As, the years went on and and people, got, more interested, in my things then I started, upgrading to better materials, did you know that you didn't have better materials or was it just I'm working with this this is how I'm making it you didn't know any better I probably didn't, know any better and honestly, even if I had though I didn't have the cash flow coming in at the time to be able to the. I don't want to say crappy, beads but the you know the. It's. A big jump to go from that to using, semi-precious, stones, and precious metals, and things like that most, people, who start as. Making. Jewelry with beads they probably start exactly the way that I did who taught you how to do it well my friend who taught me how to make the earrings or whatever and then I just kind of I was self-taught, mostly I've taken a couple classes here in there over the years but we're talking like a span of 25 years, so, most of what I do is, self-taught, who is that person your direct competition today oh no she's not she's still I still could totally consider her my mentor, I think I blow her mind now okay she's like oh my god I can't believe what you've done with this and I was like and it's all because, of you so she gets lots of free stuff.
Yeah. You. Started with earrings yeah so. Now I do I do all sorts of types of jewelry all different, designs, of from, bracelets, to necklaces, to cuffs to, rings I'm, not a metal Smith so, I don't work with heat, I do do, riveting, and cold connection, stuff but no heat I kind. Of scary heat like not even soldering, now I know that or anything so, what do you do I wire, wrap and, I overhead, yep I do it all by hand which is why I have, like a whole bunch of braces I have to wear cuz it's, really taken, a toll on my over. The years yeah I'm looking, around right now and I don't even see any like vice-grip, sort of things to hold it yep. It's little handheld tools you, thought okay you do it all by. Hand and then I hammer things and, I emboss things. And I things, and I hand paint things and sand things my. Stuff is really, evolved, over the years that I've been doing it what about the letter I know that you put a little stamping, that's probably just a couple years old and they're really like when I first started it was frustrating cuz there wasn't any good at it and nobody really likes to do things they're not good at now, I'm awesome. So. That's our cast of shops galleries. Coffee. Houses just local. Stores local, art supporters, that, we'll be talking to this, season, each. Week I'm going to be asking a different question, trying to delve deeper, into what. They do how, they do it and what, you can learn from it just like they did by example I. Want. To thank everyone for talking, with me and I'll thank you all for listening if, you're just hearing this for the first time you can subscribe to the show at American, bandido dot-com, subscribe. The. Music is provided. By my, side project, rom-com, and you can listen to more at American Bandido calm / music. And. While. You're at the website you can read my daily comic journal called then this happened, I don't, blog but I draw little, sketches, about what I do every day. Thanks. Again for listening I'll, be back next week with more so, long.