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That's the beauty of a word, isn't it? This is KND featuring. My name is Bick and welcome to the show. Today, we have the pleasure and honor to talk to someone amazing. He's a politician, but not just any politician, a party leader. He's a father and also someone who a lot of people of younger generation look up to and consider him as an idol.
And of course, he speaks English fluently. Welcome to the show! คุณทิม สวัสดีครับ Thank you for having me. It's good to be here. - Thank you so much - It's great to have you here. Yeah, it's good to be back at THE STANDARD too. - Yeah - Thank you All right, so how's everything... - Good - ...in life so far?
Good, a bit sleepy in the morning. I still need my cup of joe but I'll be okay. Okay, so the year of rabbit is treating you well still so far? Yes, I started off at Disneyland, - so nothing much to complain. - Wow, that's the best place on earth! It's probably a last chance for me to spend some time with my daughter before the election starts. Yep So I've got to bribe her a little bit if you know what I mean.
Yeah. So we spent it in Hong Kong Disneyland. Just in the hotel area Two days at Disney My head was about to fall off but I survived.
I bet she's having a great time. I hope so too. Then she probably understands that...
she won't have... ...an access to her father for a couple of months during the campaign trail but... but I hope to bring her along. when I travel through the city. And that's what has been the experience of learning at school as well as learning on the ground. Okay when her father was traveling around the country.
So let's start off with the thing we call the five words game. five words? Since our show is called "คำนี้ดี" so we are big on words so we'd like to learn about your words - Right - Probably... - Yeah! You're... - Bring it on! Yeah Okay, so number one What is your all-time favorite word ever? in English Kintsugi I know it's not English. It's Japanese.
Right But it's being translated in English a couple of times. You know, it's a way of life in Japan that if you speak nowadays in Manhattan or in Copenhagen people understand what they mean. Kintsugi is pretty much a Japanese... ...art ritual that when something is broken, it gets mended by lacquer and gold powder.
I mean it's such a beautiful word. It's just such a beautiful concept that gives you hope. Hope floats, You know, that kind of thing.
Whatever is broken can be fixed and can be even more... beautiful You know, just to be clear My Japanese is 全然分かりませんね。 (zenzen wakarimasen ne.) ภาษาญี่ปุ่นของผมไม่สามารถเข้าใจได้เลย 勉強しています。 (benkyou shiteimasu) ผมกำลังเรียนอยู่ とても難しくて覚えていません。 (totemo muzukashikute oboete imasen.) มันยากมากๆ ผมไม่สามารถจำได้ Wow! That's pretty fluent! I go to Tokyo 私は東京へ行きます、 watashi ha(wa) tokyo he(e) ikimasu ผมไปโตเกียว 行きましょう、 ikimasho ไปกันเถอะ 行きたい、 ikitai อยากไป 行きました ikimashita ไปมาแล้ว All those things, I just simply give up. You know, I try to learn it through...
...watching Netflix and... hopefully, คำนี้ดี would come up with Japanese, so I can finally reach my dream of mastering a third language apart from English or Thai. But I think that's my favorite word. I think that's a way of life.
Something that... You need in Thai politics. And that's something that you need in this kind of economy, in this kind of state of the world.
I think Kintsugi is something that... whatever's... ...broken in the first place can be even more beautiful if you put attention to it, and if you don't give up. So that's my all-time favorite word. And what is your latest new word that you have just learned? "Philavery" p-h-i-l-a-v-e-r-y Say it again? "Philavery" Philavery... I actually have a book about it to show you guys.
Philavery means a treasury of unusual words and this book is from 2006. is one of the first books that I bought when I reached America for my graduate study. and I fell in love with the book because it has so many unusual words.
Like, you know "Kakistocracy" k-a-k-i-s-t-o-c-r-a-c-y It means a system of government in which the rulers are the least competent, least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. You know, it comes up with all these... ...unusual you know beautiful words that you know take your edge right off at the end of the day. So it's one of my favorite books also.
But I couldn't remember what the book's name was or is, you know? And then I felt like you know when I first introduced When I was first introduced to คำนี้ดี and I felt like if I were to translate your show into an English word, it would be "Philavery". Wow! that's a lot better than what I had in my mind like "Ah, this word is good!" It's like nothing but "Philavery", okay. I'm gonna start using this word more. That's such a great word. That's something I learned. I know about the book.
but I couldn't like put my mind to it. It was a mouthful right here. And then I went back home that I knew I was gonna come on the show. And then look in the book in my bookshelf and I found it and okay it's called "Philavery". A treasury of unusual word And I can see that you actually... "Kakistocracy" That's a good word too! We really need to like start using that word as well.
- Doesn't it ring a bell which kind of government system? - I think kind of. - Yeah, that's a good word to use. - "Kakistocracy" And I see that you still read the physical book like that real paper bound into a real book.
- Yeah? - Sort of yeah You're calling me old but, yes, that's fine. - I think that's classic. - I love it. I just write and read, you know. When I don't have the idea, I read. When I have the idea but I can't really... ...articulate it, then I write. Okay I think that's something that's the best thing for me.
Yeah. So you're not that big on typing and reading from digital devices? Used to, not anymore. I mean when I was... ...first-time jobber when you really needed to learn how to use PowerPoint and Excel and Microsoft Word and all that. You know, back in the days, Microsoft 1997 or something like that. Yeah Back in those days, yes I needed to learn how to type.
But now that... I have someone to do it for me so... - I just read and write. - But that's nice. And I think that's a nice habit to have and keep.
To read and write, right? - To read and write - And speak And speak, of course. And connect with one another. - Right - Yeah So let's go to the third word. You have mentioned your daughter. So let's talk a little bit about her.
Okay what is the one quality word that you and your daughter have in common? Do you want a sugar-coated one or... - ...a real one? - Both, please. I mean it's a duty of a daddy to embarrass their daughters. If it's sugar-coated, it's "punctuality". Okay It's punctuality.
Given my hectic schedule, I gotta wake up in the morning make sure she gets to school on time. Then I go to the parliament. So "punctuality" is something that is really important for us. And that's a sugar-coated one. The real one would be "creepy". I think I don't know where she learned that from.
But... when we were watching a movie on Netflix or the show, She'd be saying it, "The movie is creepy." Creepy? And then if the food is not delicious, the food is creepy. If the dress is not pretty and then she said the dress is creepy. I have no idea. Don't ask me where she got it from. But I have no idea where she got it from.
But everything that is not good, it's creepy to her. So that's something that is like... when we spend our quality time together and only...
...two of us knew back then. Now everybody knows. Sorry Pipim. Like I said, there's a job of me to embarrass you, Daddy to embarrass daughter. But because of that and if you're in our household if you're our... ...Alexa, for example, in our house, then you'll hear the word creepy a lot. "Creepy, creepy, creepy."
Sorry about that Pipim. So you speak English with her too? Both languages I think they're both important. She picked up Chinese a little bit. She started in a Japanese... international kindergarten. So she picked that up a little bit from mingling with her friends, in class from her teachers, from watching...
...Midnight Diner with me or something like that. I like that one too. And then now she's in another school now in a primary school and then the school splits two languages between two semesters. The first one was Chinese so during this Hong Kong trip, she was boasting her language proficiency in front of me. And this semester is French. So she's coming home and like... again showing her French progress.
I'm counting five languages so far like Thai, English... She can't even order food, I mean. She speaks English and Thai, you know. But for those three languages are just pretty much like samples for her to learn. Yeah, but you would love her to...
Whichever she prefers, that's her choice. But I think she would be able to say which one is nose and ears in all five languages, or count numbers and things like that. And would you say you would encourage her to learn more than two languages? - It's really up to her. - Three four five...
It's really up to her. It's her life, not mine. So my job is to be the platform that allows her to...
to pursue whatever she likes. Trial and error at this age, I mean. We're talking about 7-year-old here so it's pretty much a trial and error process whether it's you know...
music, dancing that she sees from Black Pink or cooking shows from Bake Squad on Netflix. Or learning ukulele or languages or whichever. I think that's the right to all the children in the world, and that separates education from learning, you know what I mean? Education is one thing. Learning is one thing. And I think if you want the child to really learn, it's gotta be something that comes from within.
So it's not really up to me. It's up to her. But I'll try my best to be to make sure that I am able to provide. So talk a little bit about your big plan for the education for Thailand that you're about to like propose. What would be the main philosophy beside education and learning as you have just said. Anything else that you want to stress? Curriculum for the 21st century has to be decentralized and not over centralized like how the government is doing with their education bill that was discussed in Parliament last week.
If any of you were following, they wanted to do a super board with the Prime Minister on top so everything that is being discussed whether it's in poor Phuket or Chiang Mai rather than decentralized they want to centralize everything. They wanna have KPIs for you. so if you're 6 years old or 7 years old or 8 years old or 9 years old or whatever. You gotta have your...
KPIs in what you should be able to do and not be able to do Those are the things that it's more adult-centric rather than student-centric. They want to be able to evaluate teachers even more and that means more detailed work that is "non-teaching tasks" for the teachers and also a silo budgeting for... This is for food.
This is for clothing. This is for uniform. This is for books. You can't really have the autonomy to use the budget. So in summary, That's student-centric.
Decentralized curriculum Autonomous budget And give the teachers back to the classroom. That's pretty much four pillars of our education act that is a total opposite of what the prime minister is proposing and I think it's time for it, I mean. It's gonna be disrupted Even if you don't change yourself, the world is gonna change it for you.
I mean what kind of education system that you put so much money. Education Ministry is one of the highest... receiver of the national budgets of our tax money Thai students are one of the highest hardest working students in the entire region but we came out 50 or 70. like hard working in the classroom so the input is like this. Outcome is like this.
Something's wrong with the system. The system is broken so you gotta reverse it. So it seems like you're on the road here. So maybe, it's a good time to go to the next word. Which is the one word that you think the world or our country would be better off without? Because it's election season, I'm gonna say "gerrymandering".
"gerrymandering" g-e-r-r-y-m-a-n-d-e-r-i-n-g Gerrymandering is a political technique that manipulates districts. So it's something that if you're at the sitting government would use this kind of system How you would draw the districts to your advantage and that happens everywhere all around the world. Whether it's America. Whether it's in Europe. Whether it's Australia. Whether it's Thailand.
And that's something that keeps me awake at night now with the election committee. Not really drawing the right districts for people to really go down and you know get some votes. Chiang Mai district two becomes District A. District A becomes district three.
And that's one of the techniques... for any incumbent or any certain government to remain in power and make the election unfree and unfair. So Google it "gerrymandering". Another good word If it's not an election season, I would say "parasite". "Parasite" it's something that lives of another creature in the form less than a unit and I think you know what I mean. Ring another bell So I'm sure you're gonna be enjoying talking about the next word too.
What is the one word that never fails to annoy the heck out of you? Soft power It's an overused term and most of the time people don't understand what they mean. But it's a good word by itself, right? Soft power comes from... ...a professor called I think his name is "Joseph Nile". And then he was a professor at my school and he coin the term soft power. Power is to get someone to do what you want. You could do it through a missiles.
You could throw it through a sanction. You could do it through diplomacy. You could do it through art. You could do it through a way of life like kintsugi or hygge or...
Niksen or sisu or Finland for example. But it's not like just creative economy. It's not just like eating durian or things like that.
It's really a way of life that it has to be authentic. If it was Sweden for example that wanted to use equality as a soft power, they really favor marriage equality, racial equality. But they do walk the talk. It can't be that we have Series Y or we have some of our creative entertainment but we refuse... marriage equality bill that my party is proposing. - I mean it's fake. - Right
And it's just not real. It's just not really in your DNA and things like that. So it could be considered as a creative industry but it's not really a soft power. And it's the term is really misused. And it annoys the hell out of me when it's not the same. So for your own definition of the soft power. What it should look like and also how we should use it? Power is to get someone to do what you want.
And it's something that is not forced that soft power. Right It's something that you're not threatening them with... ...a torpedo or a striker drone things like that. That's all hard power. It's not sanction.
It's not like if you don't allow... ...the Chinese visitors to come in without checking the Visas. I'm going to... ...oppose the same measure against you but it's really the sense that I wanted to... ...buy Korean products. Because I believe in the quality and because my favorite...
actor or actress or band use it. these are the things as soft power so I mean it's a term that when is right, it's right. It's something that is hard to identify but when it's right then you kind of feel it.
It's not creative Industries. It's not just music. It's not just food. It's not just Thai boxing. But it's really a way of life, a way of the things that you could get someone to buy your products to come to your country or to really look up to you.
Like how some of us like... ...look up to Nordic countries for example. For their welfare state. For the way of life. So in your opinion, "What kind of our soft power from the types of power that has the most chance?" Marriage equality We are very welcoming regardless of gender. It doesn't matter what gender you are as long as you are happy with who you are and you perform to society. The level of tolerance is much higher than majority of the countries.
If we do pass the bill, it will be like the second Taiwan for example. Taiwan was the first country that passed the bill and they benefit... ...like a whole lot from it, not just... ...the LGBTQA community but the entire country as a whole, the branding of the country. And also the authenticity that comes from it. Rainbow economy that comes after it.
I think that's one thing that is our strength, diversity is our strength. That's what we're telling the world. Tolerance is part of the Thai culture All those economic benefits that come after it. The creative industry, the textile industry, the fashion industry. That's just peripheral.
but I think it's the branding of the entire country that is a platform left for all of our people, products, government. I think that's the best thing that we can do A quick win so I'd like to move on to for our soft power and that's the last time I'm going to see it yeah okay so I'd like to move on to the next thing that I'm sure we can learn a lot from you because you are a leader of your party and in many many contexts so a lot of people are talking about leadership nowadays that it this is a time that leadership would mean a lot and we really need a great leaders so let's talk a little bit about that maybe talk a lot about that so you are yeah you are a leader right so what kind of leader do you see yourself as like what kind of leader are you um to answer the question directly first uh it's uh servant leadership servant leadership is a servant first as a kind of leader that listens more than more than they talk they produce leaders more than followers your problem is my problem it's a leader that doesn't mind not being in the Limelight I mean if other MPS are better than me at some of the things I don't mind you know they don't have to give it to me for me to perform in front of the public you go ahead because you can do it better and I want more leaders in the party rather than followers you know um but that's the first thing just to answer your question directly without dodging um the second thing is leadership is a second annoyest word after soft power yeah to me later leadership is like swimming you know it can't be taught yes it can be taught I could teach you how to swim you gotta do an S curve with your arm and you gotta look it up and you gotta make sure you synchronize with your legs and how to read about stuff like that yeah you wouldn't be able to lead or you wouldn't be able to swim for real if you don't get kicked into the pool right like we can really practice uh leadership you know I see so yes leadership has to know the way show the way go the way leaders decide speak communicate pursue it listen all those things you could Google it up I mean you don't have to like really hear it from me in this show to waste your time but I think uh it's it's really like swimming and to distinguish between an effective leader and not effective it's not so effective later is the ability to distinguish or to decide whether you become a leader or a boss to someone so if you were given me a sentence like if we were taking uh hypothetical elevator if you have one to this floor and I only have that much time to speak with you right what what's an effective leader is the ability to decide when you become a boss or a leader because people are different you know it's probably it probably rings a bell to whoever's listening that in your team there's someone that need a leader you know because they know exactly what to do you just need to tell them the time you need the work the criteria you need to work and you got to give them Freedom you got to give them autonomy to produce the work that they want that's the kind of person you know one type of person but on the other hand you have to understand that there's someone that needs more guidance yeah more mentorship you know more push and that's when you become the boss I mean if you look at you know I I graduate my master's degree in leadership public policy majoring in leadership and if you look at leadership books and if I were to ask a question in this room you know what's better leaders of bosses leader of us I think majority majority of you would say leader because that sounds right right made me cry that's in the philavery it sounds right but it's actually not right made me cry yeah um but in real life when you want to get something done and and you want to really reduce the the toxicity within your team you got to be able to look at your organization or your team and see if this kind needs a leader or this person needs a boss okay a good one obviously not a not a right not a bad one so it's not like one thing is better than that than the other and we should get rid of the one this one and only be this one we need to be both the right one the right one that's the right person the right person right so so you have that ability that you you could distinguish you know it's just coaching and mentoring decision making communication listening I think that will get tweaked according to to the motto that you're trying to do I think that's one of the things that it's not in the textbook and and and if you really get your hands dirty and you roll up your sleeves you you you agree with me I think so you're not there's only one type of leader that means if I go and talk to each and every one of your member the team member they might give different answers and and that is not wrong hopefully hopefully I think the the last caveat is to make sure that they feel that you're not double standard I see it comes to these things but you got to be able to do expectation management you got to be able to not just talk to a certain individual but as well as you know you got to be able to talk to the team that you have to understand that people are different yeah and some people learn in different ways and that's why you gotta manage them like that yeah that's pretty tricky isn't it it's a tricky thing it's a tricky thing because uh they you can be seen as very flexible with one person and very strict with another but that's because you know how to treat them and you know get the effective out of them but for someone who might not understand they might say that you're biased or something the key success factor is time and you got to be able to do a lot of expectation management before it happens before all those uh like political politics like corporate politics come out you got to be able to like the reason why I'm doing this is because it's the reason why I'm doing this is because this before before it happens because if it happens and you know it just the peripheral of it the right virality of it it just so you do that by talking to them a lot totally like communicate keep communicating and yeah at just and make sure the expectations are aligned yeah that's something I need I still need to improve though I mean it's still time is something that is a commodity of uh of deficit of shortage food or it could go very wrong oh it takes more time or it takes more time than it makes sense that people will start to understand as long as you have the expectation management beforehand of what can be done what's not can what not to be done and things like that and I'm here to serve you you know as a kind of right culture that you know if you say that your problem is my problem and I'll try my best to serve you but you got to understand me that you know I have my priorities and limits but you know it's like um I empathize with the problem it's not just like I want to get this done and I just leave you with you know a whole bunch of foxes and things like that yeah so um well we all know that everybody is different but when it comes to your party member and you as a leader what would be one quality that you expect all of your member half like you can be all different the way you want but this is one thing that I want all of you to have and this is not this is not negotiable you must have it ideology and efficiency you know when I start um interviewing people you know you know I would start off with why politics and why this party and why now and not four years before not next election right I mean if you if they answer these three questions to me I would be able to tell I wouldn't be able to tell quite quickly right um whether they have the right ideology for the party because you gotta you gotta really be able to explain to me why this party rather than the 23 four or five parties available in our political system right they gotta they got a really tell me why politics I mean it's not a it's not a it's a two word question for me is because I think the country can and I think I can I mean I think right that's the reason why I do politics um and why now is also something that is you know you gotta really think through yourself you gotta internalize these questions before you could articulate them so so these are the things that I test to see if they have the ideology or not um and also efficiency is one of them because you know you could say that you you have the move forward way but you don't get things done I mean nobody is going to vote for you on and yeah and there's no need for you to be in to be in politics in the first place right walk the talk as you mentioned before exactly yeah and the fourth question is what keeps you awake at night by the way okay it's it's a kind of question that tests um the last time you failed you know it tests your critical thinking it tests analysis it tests communication it tests persistence uh it tests your ability to think on your feet and answer you know so those are like three or four questions that you could really tell about a person yeah I would love to hear some of the examples of the best and the worst answers to those questions that you used to ask uh each candidate do you remember like well this is such a great answer or this is the worst one yeah are you ready for it yeah sure I feel like nobody wants to join my party no no I have no Talent pipeline of whoever joins the party yeah how many ping pong balls can you fit a 747 you know for these kind of brain teaser questions and I think the kind of quality that you look for uh in an organization especially at the very young age you know is the ability to ask the right question not to be able to give answers of course you have to be able to analyze you have to be able to communicate you got to be able to listen to feedback and all those things or you can't Google them up or you can read somewhere else but I think if you it boils down to one sentence what's the kind of characteristic that I look for people who join my team is the ability to write to ask the right question because you'll be able to come up with the answers later on and especially with the kind of environment with the kind of ecology you could come up with answers rather quickly through the technology or through asking someone else but you got to be able to ask the right question but let me be clear you know at the very young age when you start off your career ask all the questions don't think whether it's right or wrong but you know if you ask the questions um if you ask the right question it would be better but if your by all means ask all the questions but for me to ask that kind of question you know how many ping pong ball can fit in a seven seven four seven you could sorry about this did I hurt some of your expensive equipment uh then I see two kinds of candidate pools one that asked the question back in order for me to answer your question sir I have to know the diameter of a ping pong ball and I have to know the diameter of the 747 I don't remember how you could come up with the volume of each but can you give me a the answers to that but if I don't have the answer that I'll be able to Google it up right away so these are the kind of people who asked the right question and they don't have the answer but they they have hypothesis or they have options in order to come up with the right answer and that's a kind of people you need in the team in this kind of volatile working environment whether it's in politics or in a private sector in this kind of world when you know suddenly you get coveted suddenly you get geopolitical hot spots all around the world you know it's not just like whoever absorbs from the textbook of how to come up with uh uh a stock valuation and you apply it right away you got to be able to come up with a new way of doing things so you got to be able to like ask the right question in order to come up with that and the other type the other kind of candidate poll that just like says still and I could do nothing about it because they didn't know how to like critically think and ask the right question or don't have The Bravery to ask back and that's really something you know in the middle uh if you're in a middle management or a leader of an organization that's really something that you would just like it's music to your ears when someone asks you questions like rather than waiting for the deadline of your presentation you have nothing on paper yeah so I think that's that's something that you know separates out people who who you would like to be in a team or not something that that I I would really really appreciate yeah I really like that the brave for you to ask questions or at least to ask back because a lot of people might feel like you have to come up with the right answers and if you don't know that's stupid and then you're done but no you you can't ask back and you can find answers but to to be fair it's really you know it takes two to tango so it's not just them having The Bravery but also you having the flexibility or this kind of serving leadership this lesson and really let them ask questions and then um without judgment you know that's something that you got got to really show and then you have to make sure that you know the ability to ask questions strategically improves over time so the probability of asking a wrong question which you know some is debatable which one is right which one is wrong right but um the probability of asking the ideal question improves over time as you work with the newer generation yeah so there's one quote quite famous quote about politics and probably about life in general too so there's no permanent friends or permanent enemies in politics do you agree or disagree with that I think I agree um just like uh death and taxes it's quite certain in life you know that's impermanent if you're a Buddhist um that's like that's the beauty of being a human being because people can change the way they believe the way you think you could be friends one day but then it could be faux the next day but someone that you despise so much could be your best friends also I think that's the beauty of being a human being that other creatures don't have when it comes to adaptation and things like that but I would agree I think but as a politicians there might be some people of uh who has some kind of ideas or mindset that you can never be friends with do you agree come again like as a politician uh they have agendas they have um things that they need to get done as in the name of like politics or what they believe in so there might be someone or some part of the party that you can never be friends with that's true and untrue as like change and inertia but definition of leadership is constant struggle to make change happen you know you gotta you gotta struggle and you got to make change happen if change happens Mike to no need for leaders if it's a struggle a constant struggle but there's no change then that's not a leader also it's just someone who runs around in a circle all the time so because of that that's true that's there's always inertia within the system and there's always a resistance to change but I think you know both you and I know too well that the world has changed a lot and the word has progressed a lot you know it's a zigzag for sure all around the world you know it's not a straight line but I'm sure but I'm sure if you give it a fair assessment and look back at the world that we have come so far look back at this country we have come so far and but but but part of your question is right that there's always some resistance or some inner share within the system that is not free like it's not going to change by itself like freedom is not going to come by itself equality is not a come by itself we've got to fight for it I think that's that's the part that is untrue about it right okay so it seems like you still have a lot to do or you want to achieve in politics but you have one said in one of your interview that you can see yourself working as a political uh person for for another 10 years and then you have another big goal to become the UN Secretary General you once said that right you know I'm I'm 42. yeah just so supposedly I live on to an average age of ties of about 80. so I'm I'm in my midlife you know this is was a roof of your house I've reached at the top at the peak and then another 40 years of my life so I didn't want to waste time so I wanted to make sure that the the secondary 40 is not the same as the primary 40. well I have some plans you know so I planned it a little bit about my life in in four different decades you know the first 10 years I want to be politics and I want to really like push myself on it and I want to like sacrifice majority of my time try my best and within that for 10 years I'll be obsolete in 10 years I mean you know I mean the kind of challenges that is going on is quite quick in the sense that you know you got to be able to pass the Baton to the Next Generation leader and part of being a leader or part of leadership is to have some succession plan so that people could come after that you know it could be eight years from now he'd be out of it and and I would pass the Baton to him for example um for 10 more years I want to be in international organization just because I think Thailand can and I can you know I was in a school a political school school of public policy that ban ki-moon graduated I graduated and at that time before military coup back in 2005-2006 there was a round of Asia of presenting or electing uh U.N secretary from Asia and I think the two contestants were were key contestants were ban ki-moon from South Korea and kunzor gets returned from Thailand and then military coup shut that down yeah and I felt like uh and then when I reached the school I was a forum it was a town hall in the school and ban Ki Moon came and then he was like okay it's good to be back at JFK School of government my school was uh formed or started by John FK JFK John F Kennedy School of government so it was started by the President JFK and uh he was joking the JFK is just from Korea you know and and then he was like uh telling his vision about his first term as U.N secretary which is good which was good
um but I felt like Thailand has a chance to and I wanted to try it out and reform one of the biggest governments you know bureaucracies yeah in the world and I felt like you know joking aside you know a lighter side aside I feel like for example UNSC as as Smartwatch is still a product of the last conflict you know the people on UNSC is there some of the countries are on UNSC are there just because they're one World War II Russia for example you know but large economies like Japan like Germany are not on those lists despite you know the kind of improvement the kind of development that they have done for the past 20 30 40 years so I felt like that's a kind of Reform so that we have the world the global order that that can make sure the world um moves forward you know and we want to make sure that right is might and not might is right right is might means you know you you stick to the principle and the and principle matters rather than might is right I mean that means who has the biggest uh the most modern weapon rules the world so I felt like on a more uh heavy uh more of a substance substantial side of it I feel like there's a need for me to there's a need for the World to Change as well and I can't see why not come from a Thai politician rather you have to wait for the major superpowers to run the show yeah and of course we're rooting for you thank you so much and then the remaining like 10 years would be you know in college or living by the by the beach in my in the last 10 years of my life or something like that all right let's come back to our country for a little bit I would like to share with you one of my favorite words which is Hope because I'd like to see the possibility and I'd like to know that things can always be better yeah but for some reasons a lot of people especially in this younger generation they kind of lost hope more specifically with like politics and instead of trying to like power through everything together a lot of them are talking about moving countries and I want to say who can blame them right but I agree yeah on the other hand we don't want that to happen so how do we prevent that from getting worse and just kind of bring bringing them back a little to stay with us first of all first thing first you got to be able to call out that is a trap it's a trap that they want you to think that politics or Parliament is hopeless it's a trap that they want you to think that politics is boring and they want it's a trap that they want you to think that politics is dirty and they don't want to get you involved so when you move away from politics as far as possible that's when they use your taxpayer money to buy things that type the country doesn't need yeah that's the time you know the time when you are at least interested in politics that's when you they pass the law or the laws that take Thailand back to the good old days so it's an alibi it's a trap it's intentional to make you lose hope to the boredom to the dirtiness to the Hopeless of politics and that's what that's that's what that's what conservatives are very good at so once if you take yourself out of that hopelessness out of that bubble and you look from the top to down and you feel like they're playing games with you they're manipulating you they want to make sure that this is long and boring and nonsense so that you want to go and look something else or you want to go to sleep and that's when they pass the law this is the truth once if you are able to identify that and you feel like that once you lose hope that's when you lose and you personalize this a little bit more and you feel like okay they try to make it as dirty as possible so I don't want to jump into politics and that's when you get you get no fresh blood oh no no right pipeline of talent yeah of people who wanted to come and run for Bangkok Governor or who wants to become Prime Minister of the country I think that's exactly why you guys are so exciting so fun so full of energy and super relevant so is everything opposite of that thoughts of all those traps kakistan yeah yeah there's a beauty of a word isn't it right right just one word and you get it done right yeah so you guys are doing everything in your power to get them back I mean all those that already lost hopes and just try to show them the way that we're still trying this this election is not about me it's about you it's about us so I mean I can't do it by myself that's for sure that's why I need you to help and you know knock some doors for me and and speak about uh how this country can be better and try again once more time I mean if if you are right behind me then hopefully we uh can get rid of that kind of question and it doesn't have to be a question anymore it's almost like the Philippines back in the days I mean when people lose hope and move out and you and ten percent of your GDP comes from remittance right rather than like tourism because like people are moving moving out to America and Japan and things like that so you know we don't want that to happen and I mean I mean you could move countries but you can't never be Thai can you I mean you were born here you were raised here no matter how far you go you still miss the country so I mean let's give it another shot English content creator like ik song videos income foreign KND Studio dot official gmail.com English content creator last song video creators Papa thank you