The Shocking Florida Machete Murder

The Shocking Florida Machete Murder

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This. Week on BuzzFeed absolved we take a look into the Florida machete murder about Thalia pond South Winsley in our continuing, exploration into. Why Florida is the way that it is it, is a unique place with some funny stories coming out of it they have the magical world of Harry Potter or, the is it the Wizarding World what about Miami Beach baby yeah, sure Miami Beach never been yeah. You don't seem like a Miami Beach type anyways, we're here to talk about a machete murder and also, we have talked about Florida in the past we investigated, that lady who exploded in her living room I loved, that lady, you, did I mean I didn't know it. Was the size of a tiny little teaspoon, or a tea cup anyways. Let's get into it, born. Into a life of privilege, Adelie upon sale Linsley was a former Broadway actress model, inventor. Real estate agent and author, she. Was according, to her detractors, in the Orlando Sentinel a sharp tongued aggressive, woman who quote would not have won any popularity contests. End quote, indeed. In 1970. At Bally I ran for Florida Legislature, and lost, I. Feel. Like a mark of true success is when you have detractors, that's. A wonderful thing like when you get haters oh yeah that's like a the. Old way to say that yeah yeah yeah I would love some haters yeah. I'd love some haters too why don't you take a long walk down a short pier, I like it well that's too general, and too, hypothetical I like what he gets pointed, like oh I hate his stupid beady, eyes. Rooster. Rooster. Look. At that a little surf wave on his head I'm gonna go I'm, gonna get my little boogie board and surf that in the morning, in 1973. Adalia. Married James Linsley, a real estate agent, and the former mayor of st. Augustine, Florida where italia' lived at the time while, they were married in September, by the next January, the two still lived in separate, homes, Elia, was trying to sell the house she was living in and didn't, want to leave it unoccupied before. Moving to her new husband's, home she, never got the opportunity now. It is funny that they are both real estate agents, and they cannot sell their house. You. Know you know maybe. They're just not that good at their jobs or maybe. Just maybe no. One wants to live in Florida I'm just imagining a bunch of people going do you you need a buy a house here's like I'm a real estate agent - do you want to buy a house here and that's just a big feedback loop I see whatever I ask your real, estate agent selling.

Real. Estate to other real estate I. Know you're ripping me off but I already have asked on January. 23rd. 1974. Between, 6:00 and 6:15, p.m., the, 56, year old Athaliah went outside to, walk her pet blue jay Clementine. She's. Taking her bird for a walk I loved that I had a wonderful little bird I understand, we all know you kept your bird in a freezer for two years the ground was hard we couldn't bury him yet for two years no it wasn't two years it was just over the harsh Chicago. Winter when the ground thawed we buried him in the garden we all know you ate that bird, we. All know ate a parrot, you did date, a parrot I loved him I'm done talking about my parrot. Not. Entertaining, with this. On. Her porch she encountered, a man wielding a machete who, proceeded, to hack her to death by. The time police arrived, athelia, had been nearly decapitated. Police, chief Virgil, Stewart said quote she, was dead when we got there she had, been badly butchered, her head was almost cut off and quote, clementine, the blue jay was, never seen again do, you think, this. Person maybe. Was. Clementines, original, owner and just wanted to the bird back I did not consider that possibility it's, actually not even in my theories well. It. Wouldn't be the first time you've glossed, over things well I do think, it's a bit of a jump to say hey that's my parrot I think, your head doesn't look good on your shoulders anymore so we know you're not one to jump to conclusions I don't do, haughty you, use only if I have some facts behind a big boy. Take. Away a. Neighbor. 19-year. Old lock McCormick, said he could hear a Dahlia screams from his house when, he went to check on Italia he discovered, her butchered body he, told police he saw a 40 to 60 year old man. A white, shirt and dark, pants walking, away from the house a witness, reported that there was blood in the grass quote, leading, all around the south side of the house and quote, at one, point a police, officer ordered the ambulance, attendants, to hose down the blood that, fly in the face of like, crime scene investigation. This hose everything. Maybe. Let's get this evidence out of here all. Right now I could think clearly. The. Sheriff offered a $500. Reward to, anyone with information on, the case On February, 17th. 1974. A County, mechanic, named Dewey Lee said, he'd searched the marshes, one mile from Linz Lee's home and discovered. A machete, and a package, containing a bloodied white shirt dark, pants a watch, and a pair of shoes after, a Thalia's, death Frances. Bemis a 70, year old retired department. Store public relations, exec and fashion, consultant told. Her friends that she knew something about the murder Bemis. Who was reportedly a friend, of Italia's was even said to have been collaborating with a writer on a book about Italia, after her death she did not seem afraid when Italia turned up slain telling. The st. Augustine record, quote I think st. Augustine, is the safest place I have ever lived I go out walking at night and will continue to do so I went out walking the same night that the murder took place end quote, I don't know what I'd make of that if you if this grisly, murder had occurred and, will and a woman just proudly, proclaimed, like well, I'm not afraid, maybe. If she knew her, well it's, her way of saying like well she must have been into something dirty baby that.

Kind Of stuff doesn't happen around here and let me show ya I'm gonna go on a walk right, now yeah Frances, indeed, continued to go walking at night including. On November, 3rd, 1974. A little over nine months after Italia, was murdered the, next day not far from where Italia, was murdered a man, walking his dog found Frances, dead in a vacant lot oh, no. What. That's unfortunately. The old picture, app on Frances Bemis oh oh. You. Know she, died doing what she loved she, did died. Doing what she loved, and look if, you're an old lady and this killer has already killed an old lady with something, as simple as a machete this, is not the zodiac it's not someone who's you, know pulling, a lot of strings and putting a lot of production, design into their work it's just walking up to some with a machete yeah on. The flip side of that - like do you won't challenge them who are you also like, making. Yourself a big man out to be yeah like ye oh you murdered, an old lady with a machete that's great Wow you must be really dangerous man, it's not like he murdered Macho Man Randy Savage out, there it's a it's, an old lady yeah, so. Uh good, for him I guess she, had apparently been clobbered repeatedly, with a stone block. She was semi-nude with most of her clothes having been ripped off though, an autopsy report found no indication, of rape an, account by the New York Daily News noted. That her body had been burned as though, a killer had tried to destroy the corpse. Another. Thing about this one is the the, attempt, to destroy. The evidence destroy, the body by burning it yeah, and then him going didn't, work right, so just, we could just, leave I guess I'll just be evidence, well we already know what they do what evidence hose off. Police. Chief Virgil, Stewart did not believe there was a connection between Francis, and Natalia's murders at the time with, two women violently, dead in st. Augustine Florida in 1974. It's, time to, dive into the theories the, first theory is that Italia's husband, james Linsley was responsible, for her murder, James, was an easygoing, real-estate agent, who had served two terms as mayor of st. Augustine, though, they lived in separate homes James, said they did not have marital problems.

Adalia. However, had sent letters to her sister showing them were having issues quote. Jimmy, is a completely, a complete, liar end quote, she wrote in one letter she also said she changed the locks of her house there, was also gossip, among community, members that the crime scene was hosed down too heck James's involvement, according. To Elizabeth Randall, author of a book detailing Italia's, murder James, complained, about how many rumors, flew around the town Florida. Seems like a gossipy, state yeah, Oh what. Else he gonna do there you're trapped by, swamp. And Gators, yeah, you're essentially just left, to your own devices yeah, why'd you just spread some funny rumors whisper, storm baby, maybe rumors that are rumors like you eating that bird. If. You don't stop this bit I'm gonna you're. Gonna cut my head off with a machete I didn't, say that in testimony. At a dahlias, murder trial though interestingly not, a trial prosecuting, James more on that in a bit James, told the jury that he owned a machete resembling, the one used to kill his wife he, usually kept, it in the trunk of his car using. It to hack at undergrowth, while looking at properties, for his real estate job after, at dahlias murder he turned the machete over, to police at that time, it was common for residents, in the county to own one or two machetes, used, to fight back against, the Florida fauna at the trial James was shown the machete that was used on his wife James. Could not confirm, whether it was his telling, the judge quote all machetes. Look alike to me end quote, I think it's important, to say that because I imagine, people who are watching this they were imagining, Jason Voorhees murdering, this lady yeah but in reality everyone had a machete so it could have been Jim go to church on Sunday, the priest to stand up there with machete he's using it as a pointer yeah using it they're using it throwing holy water. They're. Using it to point out items, on PowerPoint, presentations. Everyone has a machete that makes sense according. To Randall's, book there was a gap of around 15 to 25, minutes in James's, palaboy, it, supposedly, occurred between the time James drove home from the grocery store where he had been shopping with a Dahlia and the time he drove back to his own home Randall. Posits, that James had enough time to drive to Italia's, house during that period. Unfortunate. That if you just have like a 20 minute gap in your schedule where no one's that sees, you, suddenly. You're open to being, a murderer, yeah. That, is true I usually takes me about 20 minutes to cook my dinner usually and because of that I'm a murder you're a murderer the, second, theory is Italia's, neighbor allen Stanford murdered, her in the culmination of a months long feud, according. To the New York Daily News Italia. Loved animals and took many in including. Noisy dogs and even at one point a goat, the, noise from these critters often, disgruntled, her neighbors according. To author Elizabeth, Randall both of Italia's neighbors the Stanford's, and the McCormick's, filed public, complains about the noise in 1972. Resulting. In a $50, fine for disturbing, the peace randall, then describes, an escalating. Neighborly, feud in which italia, outraged, the Stanford's by cutting back their trees that extended, over her property line. According, to Randle Italia, also, planted bamboo across, a city easement, at the corner of the Stanford driveway, which the Stanford's, had the city removed at the, time Stanford, was the manager, of st., Johns County of, which st. Augustine, is the county seat Italia. Had apparently suggested. To the County Commission that, Stanford wasn't. Qualified for, his job appearing. At least four times before the Commission to complain about him that's a strained relationship that. Is yeah. They don't want to be that way to your neighbors, yeah you don't want to have, a little a petting zoo in your, house the thing about cutting down their tree. Her property that's fine so, you would do that legally. You're allowed to manage theirs hangovers, you, can lop those I did have a neighbor who had an overhang, of a lime. Tree it was great because I could go pick a little lime did you ever think about killing your neighbor when he didn't give me limes yeah oh okay all, right, Dahlia. Would claim that Stanford had neglected his duties of maintaining. And building roads, but, her complaints, also, have urged into, the personal, Randle, describes a commission, meeting were at Dahlia publicly, accused Stanford, of putting, sugar in her Cadillacs, gas tank, more, salient Lee she also said, on October, 9th 1974. That, Stanford threatened. Her saying, quote that man threatened, to my life he threatened, to kill me end quote.

Sure. He seems fishy but. It also seems incredibly. Risky to, murder your neighbor especially, after all of this has been public she has in public times, complained that he's not good at his job, yeah every. Human is capable of murder if you push them enough I just don't know if this is enough of a push ok it's, true is that so yeah I, can. I bet, you you would murder me if I pushed you enough yeah probably, according. To Randall mere hours, before a valley is murder Stanford. Had been visited by the Florida Department of, professional. And occupational, regulations at, a dahlias, request Randall. Says they were investigating. To see whether Stanford, was in violation of Florida, state statutes, that's, that's a little fuel to the fire there I don't know if it's enough to push him over the edge it's. Certainly not good it's not good it doesn't look great what I still, wonder but then when people start showing up to, evaluate. You that is true you. Might you might lose, it I guess you can't really like tattle, on her she's. Doing this make her stop yeah, Wenlock, McCormick, first heard a belly ax screams, he, looked to her home and told his grandmother quote, mr., Stanford, is hitting miss ponds all end quote, which was at dahlias maiden, name McCormick. Later explained, that he'd assumed it was Stanford, based on his clothing and the fact that the man was walking back towards Stanford's, house but he didn't see the man's face or really know if it was him the police also noted, a blood trail that cut across her, driveway to a concrete wall that demarcated, the divide between her, property, and Stanford's. Well. That's all not, looking, great that doesn't look good okay, that's a little bit more than hearsay at that point yeah actually. This makes me wonder let's. Say you, want to murder someone, would. It make sense to. Study. Them for a long time you. Know see who's in their life and then. Sort. Of try to disguise, yourself or make it look like you're a different, acquaintance, of theirs so. If I want this lady dead and, I'm she's, got a feud going on with her at the Stanford, right over there he tends to wear these kind of things I'll put those on I'll just I'll put those on dress. Up like him. Wacha. Thwack, run. Through. His yard, yeah, just roll around in the grass yeah his front lawn that blood all around there, of course they're gonna hose it off but it is Florida so you know they're gonna make sure that Bloods really in the grass yeah yeah yeah it's close, to a perfect crime maybe but. It's certainly giving you an edge as a murderer, that is true, the sheriff took McCormack, to a hypnotist. In the hopes of unlocking, further memories, but the results, were inconclusive that.

Sounds About par for the course for investigative. Methods in Florida. What. Do we got how's. The evidence looking well we hosed it all down okay, what, do you want next a hypnotist. Bring, me a metronome. Recall. Dewey Lee had discovered a package, of evidence, including, a bloody shirt and a watch while, the shirt had been sitting in salt water and mud for too long to determine conclusively, if, the blood on the shirt was a Dalia's blood type a forensic. Expert was, able to identify a laundry, mark a Stanford's, name ultimately. However it, was decided that mark was too faint and garbled, to be conclusive, it just seems, like, this, guy murdered. It really does who me is it maybe the fact that the name on the laundry that was found that was bloodied it was his is that is that what it is I just, know none of my laundry's, laying out there. One. I don't have my name on my lawn yeah what is it. Things. Were different I don't know or, he's Andy from Toy Story does, name on everything and. Two I don't, think any articles, of my clothing are covered in blood no. Matter what crime comes up Shane has no bloody clothing and, I don't not, even a nosebleed I was in a church once it happened in a church wall I. Don't. Go to church I was just with one of my friends and he was like he won't go to church and I was like all right man I was like 9 so, you're, telling me at 9 years old you don't go to church the, first time you crossed the threshold into holy ground what. Expels, from your nostrils, yeah. They, ran out of tissues, mopping. That up it. Was wild. That sounds wild more. Damning for Stanford, was the watch which, a jeweler identified, as Stanford's. Stanford. Claimed that after the murder he had discovered his watch was missing Stanford. Was indicted for the murder his, friends and fellow church members, raised, $20,000. For his bail and an estimated, two hundred and fifty thousand dollar Defense Fund which would have the same buying power of more than 1.3, million dollars, today as a, quick sidenote at the time of francis be mrs. murder stanford, was out on bail with, the money raised by his friends, stanford, mounted, a formidable defense. Stanford's, defense posited, that sheriff, Dudley Garrett Dewey Lee and natalia's, husband, James Linsley had all worked together to, frame Stanford, quote, isn't, it strange that all the deputies and trained police officers, didn't know what to look for or where to look for it and without, stopping Lee, went right to the spot walked, up to the bank and there it was I submit.

To You that Dewey Lee put it out there that morning end quote. The defense posited, Dewey Lee as a scammer, while he was on the stand a defense, attorney asked, Dewey quote, isn't it a fact that you were looking for a spot where nobody could see you put that stuff in the swamp end quote. It does seem like they're desperately, grasping, at straws yeah. Because, if you were trying to frame someone you would want it to look that yeah I mean you'd go overboard you probably, you'd probably try a little too hard to make it a little too obvious looking this is confusing, I got a feeling it's gonna end up unsolved, we'll see key, to the defense was the testimony, of one Adele McLaughlin, a data, processing, clerk and neighbor who was riding her bike past at dahlias home at the time, Adele, testified, that she had seen Dewey in a dahlias yard less than two hours before the murder took, place after, two and a half hours of deliberation. On February 3rd. 1975. The, jury declared. Stanford, innocent. Afterward. Sheriff, garrett told reporters quote yes, I think Stanford did it I signed the complaint against, him and I don't concur, with the verdict and quote, there. Is something weird to be said about a. Town. Believing so much that this man did not do it they literally, raised. 250,000. Dollars and only, deliberated in the jury for two and a half hours before saying yeah he didn't do it if I murdered someone in the entire town was like no. He. Didn't. How do you like this is this. Is this rule he earned, enough goodwill tickets, yeah to cash it in for that card. Like I've been a great guy my entire life and then you get that tenth punch and it's like all right here's your freezer Shetty, is, your machete f-1 murdering, you get a free one in, 1974. In a span of less than 10 months two, women were violently, murdered, by hand in the same Florida, community, the person responsible for either or even both deaths, is a mystery, could, it have been a disgruntled husband, a fed-up neighbor a scheming, mechanic, or someone, else entirely. The answer remains, unsolved. I. Think. It was the neighbor look. I'm, a simple man I see, a trail of blood going to someone's house even, if they didn't do it come on you're, going to jail I think, it might have been a random person all right it just seems too obvious okay, there's. A paper trail of their feud why, the hell would he be that dumb rage, you know lust, rage, rage. Just just just building, up. Bursting. Out well I've never really got on that angry I don't really have that capacity it's building its building inside, you everyone, sees it that's. Great, oh man I can't wait for Krakatoa then. I'll. Shudder I hope no one's in the way.

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How does one even walk a bird? Like, do they have a leash or something similar? They have to, right, because otherwise the bird could just fly away. Clementine disappeared after the death, but if she had a leash or something, that meant that she just flew away with it? So did the murderer free here? (Maybe there is something to Shane's theory of a jealous bird owner from the beginning of the episode, who knows?) #postmortem P.S. Why would you call your bird clementine? It's a bird, not a fruit, goddamnit.

#postmortem Ryan basically says it couldn't have been the neighbour because who shits where they eat. Well, we're talking about Florida here. They sure don't think ahead as far as "Maybe killing my rude neighbour makes me look suspicious". Floridians don't plan, they only act.

+Apoorva Joshi no, shane just looks like another version of paul mccartney having bad day for his entire life #RoastMortem

#post-mortem#theory Hey Shane and Ryan! I personally believe this to be a “Hot Fuzz” scenario. (If you haven’t watched the film then I highly suggest you do!)Like the film, it was a team effort involving the town. All evidence does lead to Mr. Stanford. It is as if the town found a way to compel the jury of his innocence.. $$$$$ #boogara#shaniac

isn't ricky goldsworth also a real estate's agent?

for post mortem: Can we please have an episode where the bois go back to the holy grounds that Shane went to as a nine-year-old and see if there are any spirits that got beef, maybe make Shane's nose bleed again? That would be some Shaniac-killing evidence right there.

#postmortem Do you think that the killer hacked down Frances Bemis because she said that she wasn't afraid of him(indirectly)? Like he read the newspaper and was like 'You'll gonna continue walking at night? Not anymore' and then he hacked her down?

DID IT*

OKAY MY THEORY IS HER HUSBAND KILLED HER AND HE USED HER LITTLE RIVALRY WITH HER NEIGHBOR AS A PERFECT MURDER LIKE SHANE SAID SO BOOM HE KILLED HIS WIFE AND MADE IT LOOK LIKE THE NEIGHBOR DID IT OR MADE IT SEEM AS THOUGH THE NEIGHBOR DIDNIT

BuzzFeed Unsolved Network How many pets has Shane had ??????

What if standford pissed off the mechanic and sheriff and they tried to frame him and smoothered blood all around the yard and thats why they said oh just wash it away since if may not have been real blood or may have contained their dna. Then this whole time the real murder is out there not being suspected of it and maybe the murder knew that the sheriff and mechanic would try to frame it on strandford thus even better reason to finally kill someone you hated?!

Jason takes Orlando

What if all the neighbors worked together to kill her? So when the police came to ask them about the incident, they covered each other

Do an episode on the identity of the free range grass account user

For post-mortem, I believe that at least everyone in the town was either in on it together and so when Francis bemis felt confident to walk at night they proved her wrong by getting someone to kill her....hmm

Not a question related to the episode but what will your weapon of choice be if 1. You are a serial killer 2. You are stuck in a zombie apocalypse? PS. Can you start something a new animation story thing like the hotdog saga . Love yaaa

What if the everyone in the town was involved in the murder?

not a question on this episode specifically, more on the production. does ryan do that narrator voice as they're filming or is it recorded before/after and just put together with the clips from filming?

Why is the machete not label or have at last a serial number to identify it when there are so many people in the state have one. If machete were treated as guns, this case will to case real soon as it will help identify the owner who bought/borrow the machete.

What’s your favourite case that you’ve covered so far?

Who would win axe man or machete boy

If athalia died in January 1974, how did she complain about Stanford in October 1974........ a mistake or ghost

For post mortem: what if Stanford didn't care much to cover up evidence because he knew de community would do that for him?

In light of this new revelation, what's Ryan's opinion about the "Shane is a demon" theory?

BuzzFeed Unsolved Network BRING BACK THE HOT DAGA

Does making these episodes take an emotional toll on you due to the fact these crimes will never be solved ? And as a Criminal Justice Major them hosing down the crime scene killed me inside. #Shaniac #PostMortem #DontTouchThatCrimeSceneOrSoHelpMe

When are you going to do another British case for instance Madeline McCann I would love to hear your opinion on it

If either of you were to kill the other after being pushed too far, what would your weapon of choice be?

#postmortem Do you think that hosing the blood trail away is significant in why the case isn't solved?

I just have one question and this is for almost all the vids, how come the witnesses are never brought to court to see/check if it was/is the person that did it?

If she was "sharp-tongued and aggressive" and ran for senate aka became a public figure, (who's house address would have been very findable via house market,) it would make sense that she would have a much larger pool of suspects and enemies than just those three men; public figures in politics (especially a woman in the 70s) would get so many more death threats and enraged old dudes. but alas, only those three guys had weight. It was one of them, I guess... Anyway love how you're making these more and more narratively gripping with storytelling, nothing like hearing about near decapitation to brighten my lousy boring Friday right up. Shane you're a demon but I love you anyway. Ryan, keep him around, you might need his powers later.

Ryan, you seem to be real mad that they hosed the blood. But you do realize someone probably made a note that there was blood. I mean the blood had to be cleaned up so yeah, it got hoooossssed. Also I’m 99.9% sure that there wasn’t much evidence in the blood. And if there was it wouldn’t get washed away. Idk man, I could be wrong. #shaniac #ThatsBusinessIGuess #LoveYouShaneAndRyan

The real question is what the hell happened to Clementine?? It was the only witness in the murder! #findthatbird #postmortem

Maybe this is where the inspiration for is ace Ventura pet detective came from?

I want more hot daga

Have you heard about Robert Johnson?

"I got a feeling it's gonna end up Unsolved" They wouldn't call it BuzzFeed Unsolved for nothing.

Shane what kind of bird did you have?

How are you?

A proof that Shane is indeed a demon. He had nose bleeding inside a church. There was a battle of the forces inside him

One of my relatives lived in Orlando around this time, and did talk about the murder and the effect it had on the city. He also posed a theory to me that you didn't cover, though I'm of the impression that it's a popular one. He stated that, at the time, many people theorized that the murder was as a result of Disney. Not by them, of course, but as a result of what was going on there. Disney World had opened in 1971, and this happened three short years, (closer to two actually) after that. At the time, Disney was buying up a crap ton of property from real estate agents in the area, as well as land owners. They were paying far above what the property was worth, making millionaires of people overnight. In any case, many theorized that the murder had some tie in to the real estate job that she had. Namely, that she may have cut someone else out of a deal, or alternatively, had bought property that was later sold to Disney for a much higher price than it was really valued at. That person killed her in response to losing the money. Most point to her husband being that man, but my relative thinks it was one of her clients. However, given the tie to Disney, even indirectly, the city went to some serious lengths to cover up that involvement; lest they draw the ire of the company that was flooding money into the area.

Shane: "Did you ever think of killing your neighbor?" Ryan: "When he didn't give me limes, yeah" That's not Ryan. That's Ricky Goldsworth. Right. There Ryan: "I bet you would murder me if I push you enough." Shane: "Yeah, probably." That's not Shane. That's the playful and deceitful demon. Right. There.

Question for the post mortem: Do you guys think it's possible that Mr. Stanford was originally going to use his machete to remove some of Athalia's plants in retaliation for cutting down their tree and the visit from the department of professional and occupational regulations and happened to catch her outside and engage in an argument, losing his temper and killing her? Love you both!

I think it could be a unknown serial killer that was in Florida at the time. Also, Gerald Stano was a serial killer active in Florida at that time. He used many ways to murder including stabbing and shooting and strangling. In my opinion he may be the one even though he was a “serial confessor.” He was executed in 1998 by old Sparky. He was house with Brandy at FSP.

Are u guys feeling ok?? There are alot of murder crimes u guys keep talking about.. I hope ur not wanting to commit murder and get away with it.. ?? #loveyoubothxx lol

how would she walk her bird, with a lead? or would she put a collar on it?? or maybe attach a sting to its ankle and let it fly around and hold it like a ballon??

‪Post-mortem: This isn’t a question, but I hope you guys never stop making this. I love it #Shaniac #OneOfMyFriendsLooksLikeRyan‬

I've probably missed the window for the Post Mortem but the language use to describe Athalia in the beginning sounds a lot like how people used to describe suffragettes and other outspoken women in more misogynistic times. She might just have been a bit of a prick, but if this lady came into town who was a working, independent, smart woman, and constantly questioning the decisions of a man who was particularly misogynistic and maybe also an angry person, it wouldn't be unusual or even uncommon for that man to murder her. Alan Stanford hated Athalia because she kept criticising him, but i think misogyny made him more infuriated than if a man had done those things. Many men have murder women in a rage because they did a better job than them or criticised them. That night was probably the final straw and he impulsively murdered her when in a self-righteous, misogyny filled rage.

For post mortem: if either of you got into jail (I don't know, you stole a turtle or a clementine whatever or even killed someone) would you pay that much money to bail either one out? Just testing a little something here :)

+Fireproof Cats glad that I'm not the only one who noticed. it's been gone for two episodes now? Isn't it?

Couldn't Adelle just be lying under the oath? If she was part of the neighborhood, she probably disliked athalia and was on team Stanford. I've had neighbors who hate my dogs(even though they rarely bark) and it gets nasty. Add that to her being a successful woman who was against the patriarchy in the 70s

Shane, if I were to cook a bird is it necessary to keep it in the freezer that long?

For #PostMortem : Maybe the reason why Stanford's friends gathered up 250 000 dollars was because the neighborhood hated Athalia since it was mentioned that she was an aggresive woman and they never bothered who really killed her which came to the point where they were pointing fingers to the husband and to the mechanic. guess they were glad to see her gone. P.S. where did that bird go? bet this case will remain... unsolved

Ryan bringing up the bird mid-video is like a husband teasing his wife more and more

Nosebleed on the church? Another evidence to the fact that Shane might be a demon? possesed?

Hey Shane! Did you teach Ryan how to finally pronounce February properly? Or did he learn on his own? Although I admit I almost miss Febreeary, it was sort of endearing.

BuzzFeed Unsolved Network #postmortem who is the culprit that put pineapple on Pizza?

For the Post Mortem: What if Stanford hired that mechanic to murder Athalia, thus explaining the testimony in the trial. The fact that the mechanic found evidence in the swamp could have been the result of the deal they had gone wrong. I think its unlikely but it could have happened.

You guys should do an episode of the black twins (very very low population of black people where that grew up) that lived in Ireland (I think)? They both had very high IQs but rarely spoke to anyone but spoke to themselves in their own language. They both tried to kill one another and then one day one of the twins died. They broke the law quite a bit during their lives together. Their story seems super interesting and I'd love to see your take on it!

#RoastMortem 'only if i have some facts behind it' says the guy who thinks wind is evidence of a ghost

Do you ghoul boys think that they should have held the trial out of town or state since the town seemed to all think Stanford was innocent? It seems that this wasn't a fair trial for the victims. (Love the show! Keep up the great work!

Not a question, but I love you guys so much

You spent a lot of time discussion theories on Athalia's murder, but didn't really touch on Frances. How would any of these suspects connect to Frances? If they don't, what theories are out there about other suspects in her case?

post mortem: whens the next episode of the boysenberry boys? love you guys! #shaniac #butscaredlikeaboogara

What’s your favourite video you guys have done ?

Does any of this ghost and murder stuff ever get to you?

I think you would study someone if it was a neighbour and you wanted to kill them. You would want to know their routine to give you as much as an alibi as possible? Maybe try and play it off from being you and divert it to someone else? At this point it does point a lot to the neighbour, but would you really be so risky to kill someone so close to you ( literally) for thoese reasons and not think they’re going to be suspected? Obviously not as they went questioned and it’s never been solved

You guys should cover the case of Brandon Lawson. There's even a possibility with it the cops covered it up by editing the 911 call.

Shane looks like a real detective. Those specs make him look old. In my opinion it's Athalia's husband who murdered her and took the right opportunity to frame Stanford for it.I mean it can't be a coincidence two friends dieng the exact same way, could it?? It also is definitely a crime with motive and not a crime for passion.

Ricky Goldsworth as a serial killer what would be your victims' profile? How would you target or select them? What would be their commonality? Kindly put this out so the public can be warned. #postmortem

#Roastmortem Honestly there could be sharks in Ryan’s hair because of that wave, it’s a quiff and a half dude. Somebody needs a hair cut big boy.

Can you do an episode on Madeleine McCann -would love to see your take on it

Are you guys going to continue this format next season with the alternating supernatural and true crime, or are you going to go back to the regular format of a true crime or supernatural season?

Why didn’t they use fingerprints? #postmortem #boogara

Alright guys common, ik Floridans wild but do you really think we would kill our neighbors because they own a goat? No instead we just get the city mayor to get them shipped off to a slaughter house (it happened to my friend)

BuzzFeed Unsolved Network I would love to see you two investigate Old Melbourne Jail. It has a few ghost stories and it's where Ned Kelly was hanged. #postmortem

What about Miami Beach baby?

BuzzFeed Unsolved Network #PostMortem Clementine the blue jay committed the murders

Let's all bring up Shane's bird

Could the Florida Machete Murderer beat the Axe Man? Seems like a cinema-worthy showdown to me.

BuzzFeed Unsolved Network why does everyone want to write a book about this case? I mean the friend who walks at night was gonna write a book, and then that other chick wrote a book. What is it with Florida and murder books??

+BJ Reo exactly what I'm thinking! Makes me wonder if at that moment.. Shane was indeed pissed off (for real!)

For post mortem: in regards to Frances Bemis’s death, do you guys think she was murdered opportunistically or do you think that she was murdered for a reason? She didn’t seem to have any obvious connection to Athalia (other than her helping to write a book about her), so I don’t really see the point of killing her unless it wasn’t related to Athalia’s murder. It all just seems kinda weird, especially since the method used to kill Frances was completely different. Love you guys! #boogara #ripshanesparrot

#postmortem if only shane would really think that hard after waking up and doing his hair

I think the whole town was in on it. I think it is a little bit suspicious that the town raised so much for a bail case. I also think the police were in on it too. That would explain why they hosed down the evidence. Though they might have felt that it was wrong after words. So they prosecuted the man that they knew was responsible. So the town all pitched in to save him. #postmortem

No one: The watcher: HaIL MmMEeeeee!!!!

We need to know more about Shane’s bloody nose story

Your mum gay #roastmortem

no one: literally no one: like not even ryan: shane: "thwacka-thwack!" #postmortem

#postmortem, hey, is ruining history ever coming back or not? Its bean a year! #allhailthewatcher

Do the disappearance of Kortne Stouffer in Palmyra PA. It’s really strange and the timeline is eerie

God bless Florida...

Rayn has started to suspect Shane is a demon

Taking those limes was illegal Ryan!

#postmortem I think that who ever killed Athalia just didn’t like her (for whatever reason) so killed her as just a one time thing then heard Frances saying that she wasn’t scared and the murderer got mad so killed her. #shaniac

#postmortem for postmortem- i personally think the neighbor did it. we know that he heard the screams of athalia and knew that he called the police. in that time span, he could’ve walked inside after killing her and called the police which is why locke saw a man going into his property. i think he might have also killed frances because of how frances stated her opinion in the article. she might’ve had her suspicions and knew it was the neighbor so he killed her.

c'mon now we've all see the vvitch, if athalia owned a goat then y'all know it was the goat that killed her #postmortem

Where r all my Shaters ???!!

Did you think the bird did it #postmortem

I personally think that it was her neighbor. If you think about it, in the beginning it was stated that she wasn’t the most popular woman in that area, but her neighbor wasn’t the same way. It could be thought that maybe, just maybe, the town liked him so much that they decided to post bail and defense for him just so they can get rid of her AND keep him in charge. Maybe the town just got sick of her so they did everything they could to keep him out of jail. #postmortem

I’m literally watching this right before I travel to Florida

14:59: "thwack-a-thwack" a new onamatepia for my daily life

POSTMORTEM.... Howdy from H-Town Ryan and Shane. Doing a great job and you 2 make a great team. As for my question I was just curious if they investigated Dewey? I mean he did find all that evidence. Which seems to br very convenient. However instead of conveniently finding it to frame someone maybe he conveniently found it because he had hidden it aftet killing the ladies. Then when they came up with a suspect he decided to "find" the evidence and pin it on the suspect. Besides you just know someone named Dewey is up to no good!!!! Ive got a fever and only one way to get rid of it....no not cow bell. This fever can only be fixed with new episodes of THE HOT DOGGA!!!! #ghosts are real # Bring Back The Hot Dogga

anyone else from orlando here? lol

we aren't all bad ok

#postmortem why have a pet blue Jay? Those are not birds to normally have as a pet. It's like having a pet crow

My great grandmother used to put my initials on my socks

shane: yea I got a nosebleed in a church once haha Ryan, who knows about the demon Shane theories; ...interesting,very interesting

Shane is getting very suspicious

more #supernatural pls

You guys should do the missing person/possibly human trafficking unsolved case of Madeline McCann

Next episode: The death of Shane's bird.

Shane went to church and his nose bleed. Shane is a demon. SOLVED

Visiting in Florida rn, thanks for the absolute scare.

*plays "St. Augustine in Hell" by Sting*

i love ya’ll guys tho

Nobody cares where's ruining history

#postmortem I think that maybe, because this lady was allegedly sharp-tongued and quite generally disliked, maybe this was a community thing? You know, nobody really liked her, so they held a secret meeting at midnight one day and decided "Okay, right, you can marry her, then we'll make sure nobody buys her house, then someone kills her when she's out walking her Clementine, then we'll just f*ck around and pretend to investigate so as to keep up Global appearances but, meh, who really cares? As a community, we're just a happier group now." #maybe #goodepisode #welldonedudes

Me a Floridian : O:

If Stanford knew Athalia was trying to sell her house, I don't see why he'd murder her because she'd be out of his hair soon and he wouldn't have to worry about jail time. #postmortem

oh my god. shane's a demon, he got a nosebleed from going to church. LOL

For #postmortem : Shane, why did you eat your pet parrot?

Why have they not done a madeleine mccann series!!! I need that

Ryan seems like a serial killer more and more each episode or should I say Ricky

Clearly it was actually clementine the bluejay all along. Why else would she flee the scene of the murder?

#postmortem If Stanford was the killer, why would he kill her friend? Was it because she dismissed the violent intentions of the murderer and hurt his ego? Or maybe she discovered that he did it and was about to spread the word?

It’s wasn’t her husband because there would of been blood on the drivers seat and it said ‘he had enough time to drive there’. As Shane said the neighbour was probably framed, and anyone can write anyone’s name on the label, but the key to who murdered Frances and why was anyone going to do so. I feel it’s more likely to be a rival author in that genre. A wanna be Detective. #postmortem

My cousin stabbed a man 21 times for stealing his cat so I bet the machete man just wanted his bird back

Dang ok... come after us Floridians :’)

I wonder how long ryan spent on practicing saying February and then still got it wrong #roastmortem

Why does Shane have a pen and notebook

What if Clementine bluejay was like "YOU TAKE ME TO A WALK EVERY. SINGLE. DAY! I AM A BIRD! I FLYYY! UGH! Where is my machete now? Unbelievable, these humans, not knowing respect, *mutters aggressively to her self as she almost decapitates her owner*" Ps. I love you guys sooo much, Shane's humor + Ryan's fear = gold on sight Still a boogara and a shaniac at heart :)) and here's my question: who would most likely would be the killer in the killing of Athalia?? #postmortem #postmortem

I love how both Ryan and Shane are so chill with killing each other

For #postmortem: OKAY, but what about Clementine the bird? I'm telling you, this bird knows something...

Hey Shane, thousands of people already believe you're lowkey a demon, that bleeding in a church story doesn't help

I love how they add “(wheez)” in the paragraphs

HOW MANY TIMES - DO MADELINE MCCAN

shane really is the demons boi

Shane telling us that he got a nose bleed in church really isn’t helping him fight the theory that he’s a demon #postmortem

Anyone else from Florida?

Welcome to the #RoAstMortEm or #roastmortem if your as boring as Ryan. Quick question why hasnt Shane changed his name to Ashamed because obviously his parents should be?

I love Shane too much but I'm willing to make the sacrafice. I-I-I hate you Shane Madej!

Do a episode on the death of princess Diana #buzzfeedunsolved #loveyouguys

Supernatural *Kellie Castle* Ipoh, Malaysia

Do you think both murders were connected? How did the trial for Frances Bemis go? Love from London :) #postmortem

Can't wait for the nosebleed in the church to be added onto the long list of reasons Shane is probably a demon

Maybe Francis was into it with Stanford. It might be the reason why she was all relax and not fricked out? But after a while, Stanford decided to get her out of the way ? Maybe she tried to blackmail him or threaten him or he just did it to save his name from any possible danger...#POSTMORTEM #post_mortem

I have lived in St. Augustine my entire life and have never heard of this!!!

Why DO U MFS UPLOAD A WEEK BEFORE EXAMS. JKS ILY FOOLS

Asking the internet for haters/detractors? Are you sure that's a good idea?

Ryan your eyes are like small marbles, Explains why your eyes seem to be poppin' out every time you're scared. #Roastmortem

#postmortem so i assume now it's more or less confirmed that shane is a demön?

Old women in church dont run out of kleenex they just realized he was evil and left him alone. LOL

I have a theory.. I think her bird did the murder.. You know, she took him for a walk, so maybe the bird didn't want to go for a walk? #postmortem

U usefull

#Roastmortem: Shane you loved your parrot. But did your parrot loved you back??

My wife and kids wonder why i take 20/30 mins in the bathroom, only peace i get to watch you guys!

They should've talked a bit more about Frances' murder as well. Any connections made between the two murders could've cut down the suspects list.

Shane is literally a demon

Florida man hoses away crimescene to think about crimescene

"They were both real estate agents who could not sell their house" Ah. I see they went to the CC Tinsley School of Professional Irony

Okay but what happened to the Blue Jay?

Maybe the bird???!!! #postmortem

Ok, but, do we need to send ryan limes so he doesnt kill his neighbor??

Come on, that crime scene photo with the woman on those insane high heels is REDICULOUS

#postmortem : according to the theory, shane being a demon gets another point.

#roastmortem Buzzfeed Unsolved? More like Shane and Ryan talking about how to get away with being a murderer for 6 minutes straight

ALL HAIL THE WATCHER

Shane relax the parrot has ceased to be. The parrot is no more.

Who wanted to get rid of the evidence ? TWICE ? CASE SOLVED !

At 10:17 they said,"James's" while it should be James'.. ..

Machete: owned Blood: hosed Watcher: hailed

1 like = 1 F for Florida man attack victims

For all we know, it could of been a serial killer or psychopath like Ted Bundy.

#postmortem They let the most important witness slip through their fingers: the bird. There was a study that animals do react negatively to someone who abused their owner. They could have solved this with that damn bird, but let him sail off into the Florida sunset.

Thwack-a-thwack.

Clementine the bluejay went missing? all hail the watcher I guess

I bet Shane got a nose bleed from picking his nose.

CFP aka CHICAGO FROZEN PARROT.!!

Ah, the beautiful sounds of murder in the morning

Why do you guys assume that the two murders are related? If they are, what is the motive for Stanford murdering Bemis? If they’re not, what are the other theories for Bemis? Was there simply not enough evidence to deposit any theories? By the way, I’m pretty sure Ryan thinks Shane is a demon now, due to the whole nosebleed-at-church thing.

The is probably the worst thing on YouTube, their acting is awful and its so boring. Who makes a 21 min video these days? disliked. Un-subbed. (Come on guys, Shane wants his haters!)

Please investigate this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Bodom_murders

for roastmortem: I have a feeling this detective gig is gonna go far for you guys, hopefully very far, very far away at least. so far away we won't have to see those bug eyes or disgraceful hair anymore... that's the dream

every time ryan says february i laugh inside, only because he tries so hard to say it correctly and i’m proud of him

It is really stanford becuase why would u hide something that where anybody can't see #postmortem

Have any of your shows resulted in any case being reopened or lead to any people coming through with more information from your exposure?

Growing up we lived across the road from a church. The local priest used to come over to talk to my dad. The last 3 times I ever saw him I got a vicious nose bleed every time. I just avoided him after that

GUESS WHO PROBABLY KNEW ALL OF THIS, THE WATCHER! ALL HAIL THE WATCHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone else notice how Ryan pronounced "February" in this episode? Has he been practicing?

So what about the other lady ?

i feel like ryan is just pronouncing february a different way every time now

Can you please cover the burari death case 11 members of the same family were found hanging in their home No one knows what happened or why it happened If it was suicide or murder is unknown

For postmortem: Was Florida really that bad that you needed a machete to get rid of the Florida fauna? It seems a little much for getting rid of undergrowth

Can you do princess Diana please. As a British person and a step dad who believes that Diana was assassinated by Charles or another royal member . I think that this is important to investigate, they said it was an accident but I know that quite a few believe that Diana was murdered and that the crash wasn't an accident. I know I'm rambling but I believe that it needs to be investigated by none other than the ghoul boys. I love you Shane and I'm a #shaniac and I kinda am a fan Ryan. I do hope that you read this although it is unlikely. I'm doing this anyway so screw it

JSJJSJD RYAN TRIED SO GARD TO SAY FEBRUARY PROPERLY IM LITERALY WHEEZJNG

Possibly murdered for loving animals too much ?? Sounds like my kind of lady

Love this Unsolved series! You guys should do a video on Kendrick Johnson, since there are so many theories surrounding that case.

Its gotten to the point where Im excited for the postmortem for the sole reason of freerangegrass

#morosemortem Shane, I’m really sorry about your bird. I’m sure you cared about him very much. Shut up, Ryan >:(

No theories?

Nobody gotta talk about how Athalia was engaged to President Kennedy's big brother?????? And it kinda seems like her husband did it

Frances was too casual about her "friends" death, defo think she did it. If she goes for nightly walks then being out on the streets on the night of Athalias death isn't out of the ordinary for her, doesn't raise suspicion. I reckon she did it and someone found out subsequently ending in her own murder. #postmortem

To kill Athalia and then Frances seems like it’s a person that knew them and obviously had a vendetta against them and since frances was going around talking about Athalia seemed like she was getting too close or she knew something to be brave enough to go outside. Both of the murders were very violent too... doesn’t simply seem something like a neighbours feud.

I have a suggestion for another video. I was wondering if you could make a video about the Philadelphia experiment also known as project rainbow. It was a military experiment in the 1940s where they tried to make a boat invisible but some rather strange things happened such as crew members mysteriously getting stuck in the ground

So an unpopular woman is murdered, seemingly in a crime of passion in the middle of the day in like, the Florida suburbs and no one knows who did it but the evidence is like a big, bloodstained yellow brick road to her neighbour. Also she was trying to sell her house to move in with her husband, but it was full of rescue animals and she'd recently changed the locks to keep her leech husband away. Hm. thinking emoji. I think it could have been her husband, colluding with her neighbours and her friend Bemis, but Bemis being old and gossipy couldn't keep her mouth shut so they shut it for her. ps. whens the worth it/unsolved crossover, asking for a friend.

#postmortem Well that's what Francais gets for talking too soon. Otherwise, be careful what you wish for.

Shane is a Demon, confirmed

Shane looks like the writer dude from the Haunting of Hill House

Clementine did it..

Wait a minute...You said she was murdered in January, 1974, and that she claimed her neighbor threatened (or as Ryan pronounced it, "threaddened") her life in October, 1974...Did we just veer into the realm of BuzzFeed Unsolved Supernatural?...

*Florida man incorrectly uses a machete*

For Post Mortem: I believe that the bird, Clementine, did it. Maybe he had a vendetta against her for bringing in the loud dogs and goat I mean c’mon he was never seen again? The perfect crime #postmortem #birdcrime

Things I learned from this video 1: never move to Florida 2: Shane is totally a demon(16:36) And... 3: Shane ate his pet bird

As a Scot, I used to always get really confused when Americans would say pants, but I sorta got used to it. But when Ryan said the guy saw the murderer in a white shirt, (that was cool, cool, alright) and dark pants (nope, that was not cool, very uncool because he is now out, doin' the murder in his undies). #postmortem

“Anyways we’re here to talk about a machete murder”. Smooth transition, Ryan. Smooth.

I don't understand why Ryan starts with what the episode is about?? I mean, he should start with "Today we will be giving you 21 minutes and three whole seconds of happiness and joy!"

Have you guys done kurt cobains death conspiracy that it was Courtney love?

which weapon, an axe or a machete, in your opinion, is the better murder weapon? #postmortem #shaniac

For Post-Mortem: Everything points to Clementine. He was the last to be seen with her and he disappeared right after her murder never to be seen again?? He's probably living it up in South America with some parrots right now. I'm pretty sure Blue-Jays have famously machete-like talons too

For #RoastMortem : Ryan, if I didn’t know what you looked like and had only heard your voice, I would assume you’re a cartoon GOAT. I wouldn’t be surprised if you took your shoes off and you had hooves instead of feet. When I hear you speak I have to clear my own throat, somehow hoping it’ll help clear yours and make you sound less like like a farm animal

I once had two high school drama teachers. One had been teaching at my school for a while, and the other was younger and new. The older one had a wacky sense of humour, and was continuously cracking jokes. The new teacher was always trying so very hard to keep up with the old one, and was constantly making terrible forced jokes heavily based off the other teacher's. That is all I can think of when I watch this show. Shane is the old drama teacher, and Ryan is the new one. but I still love you both boys #roastmortem

Reading this comment was such a waste of my time

I’m honestly just waiting for that mannequin to randomly move closer and closer towards them and Ryan freaking out because of it

next mystery SHANE BLEEDING AT CHURCH

for the postmortem: was the guy in the white shirt who witnesses claimed to see walking away covered in blood? a machete murder is going to be incredibly messy--that shirt would be more red than white. if it was clean, the guy in the white shirt is probably a red herring

Another episode enjoyed. However, you guys did mention that the victim was murdered on Jan 23, 1974...2:32....and the at 12:39 of the video you mentioned the victim complained about her neighbour on Oct 9, 1974....which is long after the victim's death!

16:58 Ryan coming to the conclusion that Shane is actually a demon

#roastmortem how did it take this long for Ryan to say February right?!

#postmortem Can you do the death of actress Sridevi sometime? #roastmortem. Ryan looks like my pinkie and Shane looks like my thumb after I have changed a tyre?!???

For your next unsolved episode how about Aarushi Murder Case in Delhi

Unsolved Mysteries: Did Shane really eat his own parrot? Let's find out.

#postmortem It’s not a question, but at the bus stop today, I saw a man who looked just like Shane. The only difference was if you took the top and bottom of Shane’s head and just squished it a lot- no big forehead

Ryan is being so mean to Shane :(

How they’re literally always joking around with each other

For post mortem. What the hell is the faceless statue behind Shane?

Uh... Ryan? Buddy? Please never call Shane "big boy" again. I can hear the jackasses that ship you two getting all hyped up, and it's not just because I've been awake for 36 hours in an apartment with no heat, no wifi, and a busted smoke alarm beeping every two minutes.

"A sharp-tongued, aggressive woman who 'would not have won any popularity contests'." I didn't know I was Athalia Ponsell Lindsley. I do have a pretty neat machete though.

So Shane was possessed at the age of 9? or was he exorcised?

The bird did it

My favourite part about them washing the evidence away is that the detectives were literally late to the scene because they were at a forensic evidence conference

You guys should do one about the case of Brian Shaffer!

Post-mortem: I feel her unhappiness in the marriage was possibly not something James was aware of. The fact that he handed in the machete makes me think he wasn’t guilty. However, the alibi gap worries me a little but also like? Why would he wait to kill her? Why bother going grocery shopping together and then kill her? Waste of groceries. Also Stanford threatened to kill her? And he was questioned at her request hours before? The witness thought it was him? HIS NAME WAS ON THE SHIRT! THE WATCH WAS HIS! He done did it. Dewey just didn’t have motive so nah.

I had a nose bleed at my grandmas funeral

Leave Shane and his bird friend alone!

This episode was trash

12 months in a year, but all BuzzFeed crimes happened in FEBUARY.

For the postmortem: I don’t have a question, just wanted to share that I got my acceptance letter to UCSD for Marine Biology the same day this episode came out.

Ryan's become so sick of being made fun of for the way he says February that I bet he went home and practised for the episodes

please do an episode on the case of Amanda Knox !

god, stop with the motorsport manager music already

#PostMortem In this episode, earlier Shane admitted to possibly kill Ryan if pushed enough, later on, Ryan says "No matter what crime comes up, Shane has no bloody clothing." Where is this even going boi?

Was Frances Bemis murdered because she was like this community is too good for something bad to happen and the murderer took it on his or her ego and to prove her wrong, him or her murderer Frances?

(wheeze)

Where are my Floridians at?

Why would anyone after murdering just go and keep stuff in the wilderness. Wouldn't they instead burn it off to get rid of it!

Alternative theory: It definitely seems like the work of Axeman Jr., also known as Mr. Machete. Athalia probably didn’t play Machete’s Mambo, so he murdered her. He just wanted somebody to help him forget those murderous urges by cooling him off with some chill Cuban dance music. #postmortem

#postmortem what's the oddest case you ever researched?

Hey Sarge…we found the killers dna AND weapon over here!! Sergeant:Ew…Gross!! *HOSE IT DOWN*

Can you do the stone man killer?

the real crime here is that you completely missed the opportunity to name this episode "florida man murders with a machete". do you know your memes, boys? #roastmortem

#PostMortem Question for Shane: Tell us more about the parrot! I'm not sure if you already have before, sorry if you did, but when did you have it? How old was it as well as you when you had it? etc.

FLORIDA MAN

Do the story on the 25 scientists who all researched the same thing and then all committed suicide or died in mysterious ways right after!

Poor Shane. You can tell he really loved that bird.

You guys should review the 1997 Chion Sisters case! It's kinda interesting!

the voice audio changing at 7:48, what was that about?

For the postmortem: what does it feel like to be a meme? Referencing the connecting the dots one. Love you guys!!!

church nosebleed=more evidence that Shane is a demon??? #roastmortem

16:40 , the moment Ryan knew his suspicions about Shane being a demon were true 17:02 you can see him actually thinking about it and how to exorcise him I swear ksjfdhfkh

#postmortem I'd like to know why nobody seemed to investigate Frances as a suspect! Especially after she was loose-ended!

I'm still waiting on you guys to cover the West Memphis 3.

For #Postmortem for Shane when are you bringing back the hotdog saga? What happened to the rest of the crew after Gens death?

I feel like Ryans forehead gets bigger and bigger in each episode

why the hell it was a hypnotist instead of a Truth Serum ,,,more murky waters...

Are they doing crimes now??? What happened with the ghost, demons and aliens????

Should I be watching this at 2 in the morning? No. Absolutely not. Am I? Yes. Absolutely so.

Next on Buzzfeed Unsolved: Shanes Parrot. WHAT REALLY HAPPENED.

#PostMortem Are you sure that Clementine had no part in this?

obviously the infamous Florida Man must be behind this #postmortem

#PostMortem I have it ok here is my theory It WAS JIM FROM DOWN THE STREET

Shane: I don’t think i own a single article of clothing with any blood on it. Well you have about a 100% chance of one or more articles of clothing having blood on it if you are a woman, about a 25% chance if you were an outdoors man, and a 15% chance if you were a cook. So overall blood on clothes isn’t necessarily incriminating, especially depending on the evidence provided.. let’s continue...

#postmotem I think she was killed because she was a powerful woman. Women in power are still described that way by the media to this day. Women are often described like that when they act the way a man does in business/politics. We don't know why she disliked Standford so much, but perhaps he was the kind of sexist man who constantly belittles and degrades women. If she was constantly fighting to keep this man out of power, then she probably had a good reason. If Standford got off of the murder that easily (thanks, white male privilege), when all that evidence pointed toward him, he could get away with anything. He seems like just the type of guy, beloved by conservatives whose dirty deeds come to light, and they would rather protect him than face the truth. I think he knew he could get away with it because Florida in the 70s would have never liked her because she was a woman who wouldn't stay in line. (All the gofundmes that get set up for people like the Charsleten Shooter etc.)

I’ll support the parrot theory until the hot daga comes back

Shane “Parrot-Eater” Madej

I live in Florida, and they are w e i r d

Buzzfeed Why: Florida

I thought he said tinsley. C.C tinsley

pensacola anyone?

Talk about bible john

It would be nice to talk about unsolved crimes around the world instead of only focusing on the US. But great videos though, keep it up!

Are the shaniacs still a thing?

People don’t want to live in a state where people throw gators into drive thru restaurants when they’re mad.

Florida is florida, just go with it

Postmortem:

Do the Montauk project next it’s pretty interesting

#roastmortem I love Buzzfeed Unsolved, especially Shane Madej and Vegan Brawny Paper Towel Man

Did they not investigate if there was anyone who hated both old ladies? #postmortem

What if this is one big elaborate scheme done by this Florida town to boost tourism numbers? I mean, people would wanna go see the place where all this stuff is happening. I dunno. Love you guys!! :)

I know this doesn't relate to this week's video but... for the @postmortem: Why does Shane's face look photoshopped onto his body at @3:28 in the latest Post Morten video. Maybe he is actually an alien? Actually it is much more likely that if aliens were to exist they would be microorganisms. #Shaniac. Shane's body is probably just too lanky for his big fat head. Speaking of microorganisms though... Hi Ryan. #roastmortem

ryan i think u should stop bullying shane abt the bird. it was his pet and u saying thst he ate it is mean

For #postmortem I would really want you guys to make videos of *SOLVED TRUE CRIMES* . Yes i know your channel is “buzzfeed UNSOLVED” but i really believe that most (if not all) of your viewers love to hear stories of true crimes, whether its solved or unsolved. Love you both! Love all your shows! #shaniac when with others #boogara when alone

Bwahahaha.. ryan's thinking face when shane told the story of him bleeding while in church.

Feb-uary Ha I'd like to see you try saying my name @ryan #roastmortem #boogara #freerangegrassisbetterthanhotdaga

i think shane is replacing the hot daga with freerangegrass

Mum just said she'd love to see the boys do a recap of GoT

bruh i’m going to florida next year i’ve been trying to believe pitbull in that it was fire but...

Blame the bird

Have you guys seen the sequel “the California Weapon Death”

100% its a ghost. How would you explain them hosing down the evidence. A demon possessed the officers and told them to hose it down to cover it up. I think every unsolved murder has been done by some kind of ghost or demon. Any thoughts?

I’d like to see an episode on the Lake Bodom murders!

Maybe Indians know about this case, Arushi Talwar? There is a film on it too. It's really very complex and still unsolved I believe.

Big boy??? Dude, cmon. -_-

Do the Long Island serial killer next

Poor Ryan. Too many February murders. The killers have gotta be more considerate.

11:24 just like Carolyn in American Beauty

1950–1999Edit Jack the Stripper, London, UK, 1964–65. Zodiac Killer, Northern California, USA, 1968–69. Bible John, Glasgow, Scotland, 1968–69. Monster of Florence, Province of Florence, Italy, 1968–1985. Freeway Phantom, Washington, D.C., USA, 1971–72. Alphabet murders, Rochester, New York, USA, 1971–73. Charlie Chop-off, Manhattan, USA, 1972–74 Santa Rosa Hitchhiker Murders, Sonoma County, California, USA, 1972–74. The Doodler, San Francisco, California, USA, 1974–75. Ann Arbor Hospital Murders, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA, 1975 Flat-Tire murders, USA, 1975 Gypsy Hill killings, San Mateo County, California, USA, 1976. Oakland County Child Killer, Oakland County, Michigan, USA, 1976–77.

"In our continuing exploration into why Florida is the way that it is" -Ryan.... Boom Florida roast #roastmortem #nothanksflorida

#roastmortem ryans hair is mount everest pepepepepepepe

Athelia: *dies* Watcher: IT WAS ME! ALL ME! I DID THAT!

do the case of William Tyrell

#Postmortem Obviously, it was an extreme bird's rights activist. "How dare you supress this independant animal by walking it!"

are yall going to hunt more ghouls soon???????????????

Nice to hear that Ryan has started saying February right

To support Shane and his poor bird! I had a Cat pass away in the middle of winter! I live in Northern Canada so the ground was frozen solid, and was that way for quite a while! I put my poor kitty in an old freezer until the ground thawed, so I could bury her in one of her favorite spots! #loveforanimals #frozenground #kittypopsicle PS: It would take a lot longer then 20 minutes to chop someone up! Almost decapitating a head would take a lot of time and energy, even with a machete! Also, since the citizens used them to clear brush/fauna who is to say the machete used was even sharp? A few good whacks in some dense weeds and it would dull a blade! So with that theory, it would take even longer to hack someone up! 20 minutes seems a little rushed for how bad the body was! Also with the neighbour theory ..... they were getting rid of her! She was selling her home to move in with her new husband ..... why would you risk getting sent away for murder when you are so close to being free of the awful noise and neighbour!?!

Do the ice box murders

I’d say for most certainly is WAS a disgruntled neighbor who did it and he was so well liked that he got away with it , kind of like the episode where the town ganged up to kill that really mean guy they were all just like “we decide the rules here mmmkay” #postmortem

Please take a look at the Denis Martin case, there a lot intriguing facts and mystery of the case.

Never knew wheezing accurately until Ryan showed up LMAO! #roastmortem

Idk if this is a south thing or if he’s just saying it weird but “Threatened”?!!!!!

do the case of lavena johnson!!!! she was a private in the us military who was murdered but her death was covered up and ruled as a suicide!!!

Florida man tells neighbor he will kill them with kindness , procceds to attempt murder with a machete named kindness

#postmortem What part of Chicago are you from, Shane? Careful, there is a right and wrong answer...

Could you guys please review the mystery of the dissapperance of Dale Kerstetter ?

LMAOOOOOO "Hey, that's my parrot." I think your head doesn't look good on your shoulders anymore"

i swear to god EVERYONE in florida lives their life like it’s GTA or something

Post Mortem: My theory is that Dewey Lee was hired by the neighbor Stanford to kill Athalia. It would be enough motive once she crossed the line and he was visited by the state. It would make sense that Dewey would then find the evidence himself and why the witness on the bike saw him in Athalia's yard before the murder. Dewey would have walked toward Stanford's house after the murder to let him know the job was done, which would be what the other neighbor McCormick saw. Stanford then threw Dewey under the bus at trial. Love you guys! ❤

You should do an investigation on the Jamison family, I find it kinda creepy but interesting at the same time

#RoastMortem Shane, i really hope a ghost eats your big head off just like you ate your parrot's. AND Ryan, i hope you drown in a pool of holy water and stop mispronouncing the easiest words ffs.

st. augustine is on the atlantic coast not a swamp but okiiii lmao

#roastmortem Are we just going to ignore the fact that Shane might be a damn ghoul demon? Walks into a church and nose leaks like a faucet? Long arms? Check. Pointy ears? Check. Slightly hunched over? Check. Loves the dark, brings him peace? Oh yeah, check. Pointy slouchy nose? Check. Pale skin? Check. His beady EYES! Check!!! All jokes aside, Ryan totally lost 50% trust in you after hearing that. Did you NOT see that look in his eyes? Don't blame him. Not a good sign if you walk into a church and you just bleed out. Just saying. Shane, watch out buddy.

at 2:28 ryan says that athalia was murdered on jan 23 1974, but at 12:28 ryan says that her neighbour allegedly threatened to kill her on oct 9 1974.....did i just catch a buzzfeed unsolved error? :O

Maybe the husband and neighbor were in on it together...

"When he didn't give me limes, yeah" lol

You guys should cover the Haleigh Cummings case. It’s got drugs, lies, drama, and a missing 5 year old girl. It happened in 2009 in Satsuma, Florida in the same county I lived in. Someone I went to school with was actually related to the Haleigh, so this case hits close to home. Everyone has their own theories about what happened and who did it, but I’d love to see you guys’ theories.

This is nothing like woods Allen movies

Which no one on YouTube deserves to watch

Whats the point of the story of another murder?.

You should do the Kaikoura lights UFO

Man I wish you guys could post m PK re of thses types of vids n keep up the good work btw a hippo would ficma bear in a fight

I miss #roastmortem

Damn, that hair is A-1 fam.

"Hey that's my parrot. I think your head doesn't look good on your shoulders anymore."

Not sure if its my eyes or computer but y'all look like you're sitting in a room full of smoke! contrast is super low

just looked at my hand and remembered im smoking a blunt and realize it is definitely just me. oops

Unsolved is the only channel I’ll watch owned by Buzzfeed Anymore

If I am ever killed in a strange way, please let it be in the month of February. I would like to hear Ryan unable to say it, one last time. #shaniac

I’m starting to think the guys actually don’t like each other very much.

Shane is a snacc.

#postmortem hi my name is Josh and conveniently the Texarkana phantom killer postmortem was posted on my birthday so I enjoyed a buzzfeed postmortem video on my birthday but anyways I was wondering why would a mechanic be searching swamps ik it’s to search for clues supposedly but wouldn’t you search like trash cans or dumps but the set up feels right to me because a husband would know the schedule of her wife and her friend and maybe just maybe the Friend was in on it too and her saying she was gonna keep walking at night might seem suspicious so they killed her too to get rid of a “loose end” that’s my add on to your theory love the good work guys also if I can make a suggestion for the supernatural season maybe investigate the cucuy or a mythological child kidnapper anyway keep up the good work and take care (repost my bad).

Hiya Boys, The aspect of the case that struck me the most was the fact that the forensics expert identified the laundry mark as Stanford’s name. Even if the mark was too faint, it’s remarkably convenient that the expert recognized the mark as Stanford’s. What do you guys think? Can’t wait for the next episode and thanks for all the laughs. #Postmortem #Shaniac #Boogarish

Florida is chill Jupiter quiet and sketchy place depending the location

Sounds like a case for C. C. Tinsley

#PostMortem I lived in FL my whole life and it sucks never move her it's hot humid and the people don't know how to flippin drive p.s/ #RoastMortem why the f*ck is there a roster on Ryan`s head p.p.s love you Shane

You could do an episode on Franklins lost expedition, or the mistery of the ship resolven which was found of the coast of catalina without its crew.

"what else are you going to do there?" 8:45 this is true, florida is full of snakes and gossip, gators and swamps. - sincerely a floridian

Can you please do an unsolved episode of bunny man bridge in Virginia?

Okay but is anything really shocking in Florida?

for the postmortem: it was the husband, & here’s why. if someone that i had a long feud with showed up on my porch with a machete, i would go back inside. but if it were my husband, i would probably stop and talk for long enough that, by the time i realized what was happening, it would be too late. athalia trusted her murderer enough that she didn’t think she had to defend herself—she probably thought james was there to trim her weeds or something. also, what if james and bemis collaborated on the murder (because bemis was writing that book and was going to profit off of it), but james got worried that bemis would talk and decided to kill her too, just to cover his tracks? bemis would have known he committed the murder, which would explain her statement about why she was not afraid to walk outside, and she would have trusted him enough not to suspect anything when he approached her with a stone block. just a theory... i love unsolved & you guys!! #fansincedayone

LEAVE FLORIDA ALONE #postmortem

you should investigate the Berta Caceres murder case!!

#roastmortem my dad hates Ryan's voice when he reads. Whenever he hears it he says, and I quote, "He's just doing it to sound smart."

Ahh! I haven’t even watched the video but as a Jacksonville Florida native and resident, whatever they say about Florida is probably true. It’s crazy here.

I had a pet bird, too. It was a badass cockatiel who earned the respect of my cats. He would peck at their paws when they would get on his cage. After a short while, they left him alone. Even when we cleaned his cage, they knew better than to mess with Bandit (that was his name). He learned to call all of our animals and would taunt them. I think he enjoyed being the boss. He died of old age at age 31. We threw him a badass funeral and played bird themed music from the hymn "I'll Fly Away" to the Skynyrd classic "Free Bird." It was an awesome tribute for an awesome bird. He loved head banging to all kinds of music during life. Shane, what is an awesome bird story you have your late parrot? Did your parrot headband to music or have any fun quirks? #BadAssBirdPets #Cockatiels #Parrots #FreeBirds #HeadbangingBirds #MetalBirds #PostMortem

having enough "good person points" to cash in for a murder is the plot of one of the episodes of the anime Kino's Journey and it's a very interesting ep

Could you guys please cover the case of the execution of Agnes Magnúsdottír?

You guys should look into doing the lemp mansion curse from St Louis MO. It's super well known here but even then ppl don't really talk much about it anymore. It was a huge deal a generation or 2 ago and my sister and I were just talking how it would be cool to see you guys dig into it.

#postmortem Athalia was killed while walking her bird? The bird was never seen again? Conclusion: it was the bird. Thank you everyone, I’ll be here all week.

I live in Florida. I don’t want to live in Florida.

When are you guys going to visit more locations? I don't enjoy watching these as much as u going to the places :(

14:46 Reminded me of the anime Erased

The real question is: Who is the enigmatic Florida Man?

Y'all, I JUST moved to St. Augustine. Why you gotta do me like that?!

look at that little surfboard on the top of his head. i'm going to take my boogie board and surf it in the morning.

if it makes shane feel better, my pet beta fish that died many years ago is still indeed, in my freezer .

Couldn’t it have been all three of them working together? The mechanic just got blackmailed into it somehow

*only if I have some facts behind it big boy*

Shut up bert and ernie or is it the old men in the balcony?either way shut it.#roastmortem

6:58 wrestling reference lol

ryan seems totally convinced that shane is a demon... and honestly? same.

why don’t police look into the other similar murder at the persons of interest and see if there’s any connecting suspects???

More evidence Shane is a demon

I'm sorry to do this but my kitty has been having seizures the past two nights. His blood has back fine so the next step is to do a MRI. Unfortunately I need 5,000 for that which I don't have. If you could please share this link or donate one dollar I would really appreciate that. He means the world to me and I just want to help him.

*_shane is a demon confirmed_*

Plot twist: it was the goat

They should've put Stanford in the confinement

it is 3am? yes am I going to watch this and not sleep tonight? yes

Hey! Buzzfeed Unsolved, how about adding Spanish subtitles to your videos? I would love that and thank you for reading :).

#postmortem what happened to the narration in 7:50?? The audio was suddenly sounding different compared to the rest of the narration

can you guys do a video on Jam Master Jay from RUN-DMC?

Can you please solve the murder on Olof Palme the former swedish prime minister.

can you make a video about the lake bodom murders

Please do the Yuba County 5!!!

I think it was Frances and Alan were in on it together. I think he was upset that he was caught and that she wasn’t or that maybe she had evidence against him and so when he was out on bail he murdered her. Like what did he have to lose at that point. It’s so weird she boasted about how safe she felt and that she was on a walk that night Athalia was murdered. Which would imply she didn’t have an alibi either.

*Let's demand a separate unsolved series just for crimes committed by Florida men.*

#roastmortem Ryan kinda looks like Hairy Hold from food fight in this video tbh

#postmortem you know what sucks? I was born in February (:

Everytime I see both your hairs-lines it just reminds me that I’ve been watching this YouTube channel way too long #roastmortem

The men had each other's backs. They aint gonna snitch.

#RoastMortem For the next episode how about you look into the unsolved mystery of who keeps giving Shane pets!? Seems like a bad idea to me. Also Ryan, Hawkeye called, he wants his hair do back.

Come on folks, Florida is not that bad. There's been plenty of cases where the evidence has been distorted or tempered with. The only reason so many stories come out of Florida is because of the Florida Sunshine law. BTW thanks for creeping me out of one of my favorite cities. St. Augustine is beautiful and full of history.

Ryan, what Shane did with his parrot is not weird! I had to do the same thing with a pet fish and a pet rabbit because the ground was frozen! Lol #postmortem

Not to be super nit-picky, but you said Athalia complained about Stanford's death threat in October 1974 when she was murdered in January 1974. Nbd it just got me confused before doing a quick cursory google haha

Not one to jump to conclusions just shock theories.

Imagine being the dork who can't pronounce February

lemme be real, a hypnosis type treatment for ptsd (or other types of trauma related stuff, idk i just have ptsd lol) called EMDR is used to help unlock memories that the persons brain has almost like, squirreled away or repressed. so the hypnotizing, at the time yeah thats sketchy, but now not so much #funfact...ish

no body: mr.Stanford: “wacha Thwack”

#postmortem what were the sizes of the clothes? i feel as if the investigators would have put that in their report, if the sizes were legible.

maybe the bird did it

It sounds to me like it was the neighbor. It was definitely not planned though. He was probably out doing yard work with his machete (like everybody else in florida?!) And saw her with her bird and just went into a rage. Nobody plans to kill someone wearing a white shirt.

"i LOVED that lady"

solved

I am using this as my meat beat back up video

I love your beady little eyes and rooster wave, Ryan!!

woah i just thought of something cool what if there was another category for buzzfeed unsolved okay hear me out "BuzzFeed Unsolved Internet Mysteries"

I had a good bird once too. I didn’t have to wait two years to bury her after she died though luckily....

13:10. Shane answered with no hesitation. What does this mean

#roastmortem Y'all look like you would be murdered just for your hair gel.

You should really look into the Steven Avery case

Very funny, great episode! 5/5.

Shane, you have fans here in Chicago! "Love you, love your show!"

Just waiting for them to do the mysteries in Mineral Wells, Texas the famous bakers hotel

#roastmortem I want to hear how ridiculous Ryan sounds when he says "threatened" out loud again

id like to point out that its pretty common to own a machete in florida. I live outside of tampa and anyone that lives near woods, which is at least 60%, owns a machete so you can cut underbrush in the woods.

You guys need to do one on AJ Lufkins Sisseton, SD

#postmortem really late, but you guys should make an unsolved episode for shane’s bird

Please cover the case of Terrance Williams and Felipe Santos

at 9:05 when shane looked into the camera i swear i saw the devil in his eyes

“A goat!” Like come on man, goats aren’t that weird especially the more rural you go. Heck man, I own a snake #postmortem #roastmortem

#postmortem I live in Jacksonville Florida and let me tell you It's a very interesting place, swamps, murderers, Disney World, drunk people throwing gators in drive-thru windows. Would you guys ever come down here?

On the next episode of BuzzFeed Unsolved we will investigate the death of Shane's Parrot

I can only imagine Ryan looking in the bathroom mirror and just saying _February_ over and over again until he gets it right.

im honestly living for the background music of this series

Ryan's hair looks like someone shaved his head, put all his hair in a bag, covered his head in glue, and then sprinkled the hair on his head.

This season the music is so frickin creepy

yeah being from Florida we don't claim the killer

Florida man strikes again

If the guy that the 19 year old saw was real, why would he describe his shirt as white? If she was killed so savagely why would the shirt still look white to the eye?

I know it isn't exactly a murder but u should do the unsolved mystery of the Mona Lisa

7:46 Mic change

The bird did it!

You guys have a whole section of the post mortem dedicated to insults and you want more haters?? Are we not good enough for you?? #postmortem #roastmortem

Please please please go to Skinwalker Ranch and do an investigation!!!!

please do the disappearance of johnny gosch PLEASE

Ryan, is that the shirt Kristin chose for you? It looks good!

As usual stellar police work

#roastmortem why does ryan's hair look like the top of a rooster's head

What if clementine killed her?...

Do an episode on THE REAL GEE MONEY. There’s many theories upon his death. Nobody has been been charged with his murder. It would be highly appreciated! (:

#thwacka-thwack

Similar story to Shane’s, when I got baptized (haha that was a weird phase) my nose started bleeding

Can you do the Baba Yaga next for supernatural?

#thebirddidit

I live in St. Augustine and it’s literally the weirdest town I’ve ever been to, Florida man is real you guys

Suggestion for Supernatural: the Devil's Tramping Ground in North Carolina!

Do a story on Robert The Doll in Key West Florida.The story is very creepy and spooky and the house that it happened in is still there in key west and the hauntings of the jail house there too!If you were wondering yes I am and still live in Florida but I now live in Tampa or what I like to call “trampa”!

But who would ever hate the ghoul boys?!?

Florida? Safe? Buddy have you met the Cubans??

I would like to see you guys do the unsolved mystery of El Paso couple's 1957 disappearance. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/8/el-paso-couples-1957-disappearance-still-unsolved-/

how would one go about getting employed by buzzfeed? #postmortem

Take look at this site. I think you should look into this case #justiceforalissa https://justiceforalissa.com

Clementine is an animagus that escaped the Wizarding World of Harry Potter and proceded to be captured and sold. Clementine killed Athalia. #forthepostmortem

I want them to uncover st.agustine’s secrets. Like that town is covering something up.

Hey so an unsolved mystery of the csx 8888 runaway train

Cover the Madeleine Mccann case?

its not much of an unsolved thing, but the stories of the Jersey Devil are so scary!!

For post mortem: Shane, do you have any pictures of your parrot? I love birds. I have two budgerigar parakeets and they’re the best little idiots ever. Also, I don’t think that you ate your bird. Maybe Ryan ate his dog, though, with that evil grin he had when he said rip.

#postmortem how long until Ryan shoots Shane with his holy water gun? I MEAN, SHANE BEING A DEMON OR NOT IS THE BIGGEST MYSTERY ON THIS CHANNEL

#postmortem Shane: Gets untimely nosebleed Literally everyone else: DEMON SHANE!!!!!

I like these, but please visit some haunted places like before :)

We are crazy. Florida people are :D

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