The Impossible Disappearance Of Dorothy Arnold

The Impossible Disappearance Of Dorothy Arnold

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This. Week on a special episode of BuzzFeed unsolved, we investigate, the unexplained, disappearance of New York heiress Dorothy Arnold in honor of the upcoming CW. Show Nancy, Drew The CW's, new series Nancy Drew Wednesday's this fall is a dark and edgy update, of the classic book series featuring the titular teen detective, in a supernatural, tinged, mystery drama what's. Dorothy got to do with old. Nance in the show Nancy. Drew is tasked, with finding a missing. Socialite. So I'd, love to be an heiress I. Know. She's probably gonna disappear, or something so you want to be a trust fund baby I'd like someone to give me a lot of money for doing nothing and, then you want to disappear but I was yes I want, to get. A lot of money and then vanish from the face of the earth and I'd love for you to disappear let's. Get into it yeah, tales, of the missing wealthy have always captivated, the public's imagination and, today, we're looking into one such case that's more than a hundred years old, Dorothy, Arnold, Dorothy, Harriet Camille Arnold, was the daughter of Mary Parks Arnold and wilty perfume, importer, Frances rose Arnold, as far as anybody knew she'd had a happy home life cool to be a perfume. Importer, I'd. Love to be that what, would your fragrance be what was it what would the name be, mmm. It'd. Be musky I know that okay for a second I thought your fragrance name was gonna be just a chipmunk like chipmunk noises. Did. You imagine if someone said oh that's a lovely scent what is that. Okay. I'll, see you later on the, morning of December 12 1910. The 25, year old left her family home in the Upper East Side of Manhattan and told, her mother she was heading downtown to, buy an evening dress, according. To the New York Times when mrs. Arnold offered to accompany her daughter Dorothy, said no quote, when I find the gown I want I will telephone you and you can come down and see it end quote I'll tell you what she sounds like an heiress pretty curt yeah, with your mother how about when, I find, the, gown, I want, maybe. I'll talk to you then how. About your tag when, I need the funds I'll call you how about that yeah how do you think this lady's buying gowns I mean if she's buying an evening down you would assume she's buying an afternoon, gown in a morning down maybe even a sleepy time gown that's right her family believed that when she left at 11:30, a.m. she, had as much as $30.

In Her purse which, in today's dollars would be more than 750, dollars, holy moly that's a lot of key yeah, a lot of key 30 bucks going, that far in 1910, I don't even have 750, dollars in my bank account I've never had 750. Dollars in my pocket I rarely, have had thirty dollars in my pocket well I don't really carry cash anymore, who does Dorothy. Made her way down Fifth Avenue stopping. At a grocery store on 59th, Street to buy some chocolates, then in brentano's, a bookstore on 27th, Street where, she bought a copy of engaged, girl sketches, a lightly, humorous, collection, of short romantic, stories, quite. A lovely evening for, the lit for the for the ladies a nice little jaunt through the Big Apple yeah I. Love, a humorous, romantic, story well this story does not get humorous nor does it get romantic, okay, around. That time reportedly. 2:00 p.m. she, ran into a friend from college Gladys, King the, two talked about a party, they'd both been invited to the same party for, which Dorothy, was supposedly dress, shopping, Gladys, left to meet her mother for lunch and Dorothy. Was, never seen again whoa. There. It comes so the last person this year was Gladys they were talking about the big party they'd been invited oh it's gonna be a corker kind of like Gossip Girl II I guess there's a little gossip well like in the 1910s. Yeah yeah, they, should do a reboot. Oh in that in that era yeah let's, talk about more shows people should watch that aren't the one word I'm so what word establishing. Here is that we got our finger on the pulse of hot searing. Teen dramas, I don't, like how you said that and this. One's gonna be pretty good team, should never be prefaced by hot and searing you're just gonna have you going hi Siri teens, and, then just cut right. There well. That sounds good I'd like to watch oh now they have footage amazing, yeah now you should have both the unsolved, hosts talking. About hot Syrians, I guess at this point we might as well say it in unison ah, searing. Jeans when. Dorothy wasn't home for dinner that night her, family started, to worry the, morning they began calling Dorothy's, friends, by that evening with, no one knowing Dorothy's, whereabouts, the family began contacting private. Investigators. The investigators, searched hospitals, morgues and even prisons looking for Dorothy they, visited her friends in Boston, Washington, DC and other cities, but turned up nothing, detectives. In Europe even watched as people disembarked. From ships arriving, from the US to try to spot Dorothy, nothing. Shortly. Before Christmas with, the private dicks having made little progress the family went to the police when, they two came, up empty-handed the family finally made Dorothy's disappearance, public, On January 25th. A full, six, weeks after their daughter was last seen hoping, more clues would surface, despite. A $1,000. Reward by, Dorothy's family, more than 26, thousand dollars today no. Leads managed, to turn up Dorothy, Arnold that's, a long time I know they had the private eyes working on it but six, weeks, feels like a casual, pace what, are you gonna do I mean it she was 25 years old she could have run away maybe, when a 25, year old goes missing you're not thinking she must have run away you're. Thinking yeah she's probably doing, stuff she's, 25. Years old what do you mean most stuff I mean. When we started this show I was 25, yeah, if, I went missing for like a week do you think you'd be alarmed or what you might think so, that's that's nice I didn't think you'd be alarmed I think you you're my friend I don't like how you said that you said it was you're my friend why are you yelling at me you're right Oh God, I would be concerned if you disappeared, and we'd get a pretty baller season, out of it cuz it'd just be me bein like. With. Almost no clues it's time to make like Nancy, Drew and Nancy, draw up some theories about what may have happened to, the popular, socialite, because. It captured America's, attention for so long this case has countless theories associated.

With It we couldn't possibly go into all of them so today we're, just presenting, what I feel are the most likely our, first theory is that Dorothy, Arnold, ran away after. Searching her bedroom investigators found, information Dorothy, had collected about various, ocean liners she could take near, it, wasn't clear when Dorothy researched, the ships but, the cruise companies, were nevertheless contacted. They all told investigators. No Dorothy Arnold had been aboard their ships in my 20s, it would have been very suspect if I disappeared, because I was for a brief while, very, interested, in McMurdo. The Antarctic, research. Base that's where you wanted to go in your mid-20s you wanted to go to Antarctica, it's. Really cool look and it's there's a lot of ice you wanted to go to a frozen, tundra for, vacation, not just vacation, but I don't I wanted, to learn things and and just live, there maybe, I still can your weird guy man yeah you, wouldn't do it you're weird, dude no I wouldn't do that when, I think oh well you're just like Cabo, baby no, I'm not thinking Cabo, baby. On. February. 6th, 1911. Mr., Arnold received, a postcard, that had been sent from New York City that stated quote I am safe and quote, and appeared, to be signed by Dorothy, mr., Arnold however insisted, it was a fake and that whoever wrote it merely copied, Dorothy's handwriting, samples, that were published, in the papers, I'd, love for this theory to be true I would agree, Dorothy if you're watching this you're probably, 127. Years lady, o lady, but um you. Know good on you you live the good life. Dorothy. If you're watching this comment, top, well vote well get, to the top comment, wouldn't that be this show's greatest, accomplishment, that we pissed off vanished. So much that they unveil. --vs. After they you know that, you got so angry yes he came out well good evening Cooper. Was like, assholes. Listen, I saw what you said about me getting speared by a pine tree Hebe Cooper breaks silence. DB. Cooper break silence to dunk on ghoul boys while. Writing the New York subway in 1917. John Galvin, a man claiming to be a detective, at Scotland Yard grabbed, a woman, and reportedly, declared, quote I know you. Dorothy, Arnold I've got, you at last, end quote, the woman not Dorothy Arnold, but rather a mrs. Smith begged, strangers, around her to help, but Galvan insisted. He was a detective he marched her into an NYPD, precinct. Where officers, let mrs. Smith go and sent Kelvin to Bellevue Hospital for, observation I know you, Dorothy, Arnold come, with me I have. Got you at last. Another. Case crapped, fergal, but imagine, being on, the subway maybe you have your air pods in and some grown man grabs, you by the shoulders looks, you in your eyes and shakes you and goes I got you probably happens a lot in New York I've, got Sabah bleah true you know the subway and such but it's a wild place not, only did he grab her it's not like this was a moment of Terror just a moment he marched her marched her to the police, station made, her get off the subway walked, with her I'm assuming, while holding her shoulder still that's, insane imagine, the people at the precinct, - they this man shows up he's like it's the missing lady, we've got her at last, ma'am. Do you have any ID she, takes it out I, don't get this guy somewhere. Quickly. I've. Cracked it here she is Dorothy give me the money now, over. The following decades. Many others would come forward claiming to have seen Dorothy, or even, to be Dorothy, none, of the claims ever led anywhere, casting. Doubt on the theory that Dorothy, ran away is the fact that she left behind practically. All of her valuables, expensive. Jewelry that could have been sold to help her journey as well as personally, valuable, correspondence. With friends, so, let's say I look like Kim Kardashian and, because, we do yeah and she, goes missing mm-hmm, and I and she's. Not turning up and I. Just really, pore, through the archives, get, a good idea of what she's like, yeah you watched 10 seasons, of Keeping Up with the Kardashians I'll, take copious notes I'll, watch it on a loop for 10 years I show up a little aged yeah. But. Still you know I still. Got it you know it still got what she's got because I sort of look like her and I just show up and I, spent.

A Long time I, feel I took, I fell down a hole I, have a beard I got stuck in a cave and. You just make up a story how. Would like what are they gonna know how, could they possibly tell. Well. They're gonna be like where's that mole on your butt cheek I mean. Don't know that no. I mean I guess, you're right so, guess what suddenly, I'm rolling, in there baby and there's, gonna be ten more seasons that Keeping, Up with the Kardashians. Under. The ran away theory, we should talk about a sub three of sorts that Dorothy, eloped, when police were brought on the case their first theory was that Dorothy, had eloped by the time the New York Times broke the story however that theory quote had been completely, abandoned, and quote, after, investigators, interviewed everyone they were sure knew Dorothy in any way every, one of Dorothy's family members and every, friend they could get the name of no, one was aware of any, secret marriage, but, before investigators gave, up on the elopement theory, one, potential, suitor merited, extra, attention. George, Griscom, jr. George, Griscom, jr. was a Pennsylvanian. Man in his 40s, at the time of Dorothy's, disappearance. The two had known one another for approximately. Four years though, Dorothy's, family never approved, of George mrs., Arnold even went on record to say she would never let George marry her daughter after. She went missing it came out that Dorothy, had met up with George, in Boston, a couple months before she disappeared, she had told her family she was visiting a college friend but there was evidence that Dorothy checked out of her hotel at the same time that George had checked out of a different Boston, hotel reports. Say that Dorothy, may have also pawned some of her jewelry to fund their rendezvous, while, the Arnold's denied this a Boston, pawnshop, was given the name Dorothy, Arnold by someone while she was in Boston at the time Dorothy went missing however George, had been vacationing with his family, out of the country for about a month, even, after replying to a telegram, from the Arnold's, that he didn't know where she was the, family remains suspicious, On January, 16th. Before the public even knew about Dorothy's, disappearance. Dorothy's, older, brother John confronted. George in Florence, Italy during.

This Interaction reports. Suggested, John even hit George and knocked him to the ground in, February. George ended his trip early and sailed back to America, he then hired his own private, investigators. To look for Dorothy, in the, month that George paid for them his investigators. Didn't find Dorothy, even so, if I'm George you are George yes, I'm not George but if I'm George okay you're a creep George I'm creep, I'm, a creep, yeah I want, to marry this. Heiress. Mm-hmm, I paid, for her to go, stay. Somewhere, for a little bit but if we want to open when's the perfect time to do it to, make myself not, look suspicious when I'm on vacation for. A month with, my family so she goes holes, up somewhere, for a little bit yeah, family comes knocking about doors she's missing where she'd been I don't know I'm on vacation, then, I hire. A private, eye you forgot the part where they gave him a knuckle sandwich whatever, if they hit me big deal I'm getting married I'm stoked hire, a private eye he, runs, around town looking for I don't tip him off maybe I tell him like hey by the way this is all bullshit I don't, know oh here's. Extra, money don't tell him well I don't know how much honor gumshoes, had at that time but probably none okay, uh then. I meet up with her later in like Sioux Falls or something, we. Get married, it's. Possible, it's, it's a fart gonna be they like find your identity then easy it seems like a lot of, steps. As opposed. To just saying to the parents yeah, we're gonna get married. Well. I guess. So you're right about that, yes. Yep. Our. Second, theory is that Dorothy, was kidnapped, and murdered this. Is the theory that Dorothy's, father eventually, came to accept as what happened to his daughter in the absence of clues the family came to believe this was the only logical, explanation, by.

April, The family was so convinced, their daughter was dead that they started requesting the police give up the case in fact, both her parents evidently, wrote Dorothy, out of their wills because, they were so certain she would not resurface, look. I am. NOT going. To pass judgment on a family, that is going through grieving. But. Let me pass some judgment. It's. Weird that you would ever want the case to be stopped being investigated I guess that kind of prolongs, the grieving, period but, at the same time if there's a chance you would think you'd want to keep going and then, I don't know how quickly people write, dead, children, out of wills yeah I don't know either, what, is that like six months later about four and a half months that's pretty quick I've, got stuff in my fridge it's, been there that's, a full season it was a full season a. Season. That's, that's, pretty quick it's. Weird that he would jump to that cuz if people were like I'm so sorry I bet, she's out there somewhere and he was probably just like I bet they stabbed her I. Bet. They killed her I bet she's dead I better ride her out of my will it's, a weird thought but once again I don't, know what it's like to go through that grieving process so possibly, this is what their process was and then you know it's weird to us because we're Outsiders and we're idiots and you know we're looking at this 100 years later but I think, we could say that's a bit odd and move on seems odd let's move on perhaps the strongest lead in the murder Theory comes from one edward glenn norris in 1916. Glenn norris was serving time in the Rhode Island State Prison for attempted extortion of, a clergyman, he claimed he found God and wanted, to come clean to the warden about his supposin involvement, in burying, the body of a woman he had come to believe was, Dorothy, Arnold Glenora, said that in what he remembered, being December of 1910. A man at a bar named Benoit asked, for help from him and another man that some reports named little, these. Guys sound suspicious, little. Sounds. Suspicious. Or like the star of many many silent films yeah I mean the only little I trust is Stewart, and that's it but. His is a little Stewart no oh a little oh the mouse mouse. Boy no man here's a mouse man he drove a car little. Louie does say he sounds like a funny little like what's, little Louie up to this week, Oh. Murdering. A woman Benoit. Glenn Norris and little Louie were tasked with moving an unconscious. Woman from a house in New Rochelle to, a home up the Hudson near West Point, the, next day Glenn Norris was informed, that the woman had died and he was asked to return to the West Point home to help bury her, Glenn Norris allegedly buried the woman under a concrete floor in the basement and was paid 250 dollars, for his involvement by a wealthy looking man there has been some speculation that, man who paid Glenn Norris could have been George Griscom, though there's no hard evidence to support this bad, dudes. If your, friend comes up to you and says I need a favor, help, me move a lady and. You're you're like yeah sure into her apartment no, oh no no she, is unconscious. I've, got a mover, just. Oh we could taken her to the doctor no no -, a quiet, quite, home somewhere, upstate where she could rest yeah, yeah. Next. Day by the way oops. After Glenn Norris confessed, to helping bury the woman thought to be Dorothy a team, of detectives searched, a home match England Norrises vague description, on April 21st. 1916. When, they got to the basement the, team was surprised to find an area of the concrete floor that appeared to have been broken up in the past the, area however was, small about, five feet by six inches and the, caretaker, claimed the floor had been broken to fix a gas pipe when, authorities returned, a couple days later with the owner's permission to dig up the spot they indeed found a gas pipe within, the year authorities, were satisfied, that Glenn Horace's claims were false the, third and final theory, were discussing, today is that Dorothy accidentally. Died during an abortion in April, 1914. The Pittsburgh home of one doctor Cece Meredith, was raided by police. Meredith, his nurse and another doctor one each a--let's, were all arrested the home was used as a private office, where woman would come seeking abortions.

Let's Made a statement to the DA that at one time Meredith. Had told him Dorothy Arnold had been one of his patients from, the way Meredith spoke of her let's infer that she had died and her body had been cremated in, Mayor this office, and while Lutz didn't admit to seeing Dorothy himself, he did testify that he'd witnessed another young woman who died in Meredith's care be cremated, in the basement in their, raid detectives, did find two oversized, furnaces, in Meredith's basement, their speculation, that Griscom, could have been who had impregnated, Dorothy but evidence of this or of Dorothy ever being in Pittsburgh for an abortion is scant at best just, two quick things about that one, even back then women didn't have control over their bodies so much that they would have to go to a basement to get an abortion from a creepy doctor who would throw them into a funny little furnace not that that's relevant to today at all donate, to Planned Parenthood but number two. I don't, really, know if, this. Applies to her I don't know if she got. The abortion went there or even got impregnated, by Griscom, or if the Griscom thing is even true so so this may be more. More. Just a wild public, imagination there is circumstantial, evidence, that maybe, this happened because Lutz, one of the three people that was arrested in the raid did, say that the other doctor, had told him that, you know Dorothy. Was one of his patients whether or not that's true who knows she, could have been there before. Disappearing, as well that or maybe he's trying to shave some time off of his sentence just lying yeah, just lying he's, lying yeah. He's lying to get time off possibly. Or it, happened I guess we won't know I mean, sorry. Why we're here yeah I know it's the end of the episode and you were hoping like the. Boys are gonna crack it we never do that's.

The Guarantee stories. Of missing socialites, have always captured, the public's interest, something, about a seemingly perfect life gone astray continues. To fascinate our, darkest imaginations. For Dorothy Arnold a lack of clues that confounded, investigators. Has also given rise to a slew of theories, to debate over for more than 100, years despite, decades of attention, in global searches as for what actually happened, to the 25, year old New York heiress, on that December day remains. Unsolved. What. Theory do you got here if, any now. Me I'm. A bit of a romantic. So. I'd, like to believe that she eloped I think, she ran away just ran away no eloping, just scram, I think she might have ran away and in 1910, how hard is it to run away probably not that hard yeah what'd you burn your ID that's it you're, a new person now anyways check out Nancy Drew on the CW, it comes out on October. 9th Wednesdays this fall she could have solved this case I think I think she could have she's certainly better at her job than we are.

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I want to see the Winchester bros do an episode with y’all xD

The part on women's rights and Shane whispering "donate to planned parenthood" made me smile. Love you guys

I think the aliens of area 51 took her

The lack of cursing concerns me.

All hail the watcher

It would make sense that she didn't want her mother to accompany her on her shopping if she was going to secretly get an abortion. Maybe she was hoping to quietly get rid of the baby, but she died and the doctors got rid of the body #postmortem

LOL how about when i find the f***ing gown I call you

I started watching this at 666k views just to change it because of the bad luck

666kviews

Can you guys cover the case of Kurt cobains “suicide“ sometime?

#postmortem is no one gonna mention the last person who saw her, Gladys??!! I mean Gladys is a pretty shady name. I think gladys did it.

666k views, 13 hours ago **deep gulp** alright then

If the abortion theory was true, it could explain the family’s behaviour. Say, the family found out about the circumstances of her death... they’d probably want to bury that information since pregnancy out of wedlock and abortion were considered very shameful. Those reasons, in that time, were enough for a family to disinherit their daughters. If they truly believed she was murdered, they’d at least want justice right? But if they somehow knew she died because of abortion, they wouldn’t want anyone to know, even the police. #postmortem

BRING BACK RUINING HISTORY

Please make more of these!!!

FINALLY WE GET A TRUE CRIME VIDEO

Am I the only one who thinks that moving to Antarctica sounds like a dream come true?

Shane sounded like Jerry Seinfeld when he exclaimed

Shane: YOU’RE MY FRIEND Ryan: why are you yelling at me you’re my friend Shane: YOU’RE MY FRIEND Ryan: ohh my god Shane: I WOULD BE CONCERNED IF YOU DISAPPEARED and we’d get a pretty baller season out of it cause it’d just be me being like I don’t know what do you got anybody seen em

I'd watch an episode of just Shane trying to fill up the time while constantly deviating from whatever little material he'd gathered

STREAM chicken noodle soup by JHOPE ft. BECKY G :). (I’m sorry

Why do so many of these cases include some one with the name Francis

"The Kardashanes"

ROASTMORTEM- RYANS HAIR IS SO FULL OF GEL THIS EPISODE LIKE CHILL OUT DRACO MALFOY #postmortem #roastmortem

Sooo are we going to get another video today though

bfu really feeding us huh

This season is already hilarious

So, on their Supernatural ghost hunt episode. I'm expecting them to go to a Haunted Lighthouse.

"Let's talk about the shows we get paid to talk about"

#roastmortem the fact that Shane can look like a hippie, drug addict and a lesbian aunt really scares me

#PostMortem George Is involved basically in all your theories! 1. Does he have a wedding certificate? Maybe they did elope? 2. She was going to a party and maybe he got mad and got her killed. 3. He took advantage of her and thats why she wanted the abortion.

Y'all dont even mention the ND computer games smh

Shane yelling "you're my friend" at Ryan is so pure

When’s the real bun coming back?

Just saying what if her parents did something to her ....

As she kept like buying dresses or something and they got annoyed with her spending money ??

Here I am, boys

1:40 Mommy said not to go downtown

Let us assume she decided to run away . That's possible She had 750$ Possible #postmortem #boogara+shaniac

“little stuart?”

Omg finally another episode

Can you do a video into the death of princess diana ??

Guys... the greatest show in existence just existed *Keeping up with the Kardashanes*

What if the parents knew she was pregnant, sent her to the creepy doctors themselves, that's why they were sure she had died...

The perfume importer's middle name is Rose. Seems legit.

I'm laughing too much for a tragic disappearance case.

I'd binge watch all seasons of 'Keeping up with the Kardashanes'.

A perfect case for you guys would be the "Orderud murders" in Norway. 4 people sentenced to prison but it's still allot in this case that is a unknown today, and the convicted still claim today they are innocent. After they have served their time in prison they even hired a private detective and tried to get the case reopened.

12:57 wait wait wait... what happened to “febeeyary”?

For the #postmortem What if the parents are ones who kidnapped and “vanished” their own daughter AND that’s why they wrote her out of their wills. The parents could have wanted to get rid of her because they was tired of her overly privileged attitude of hers?

Let's Nancy Draw up some theories

ryan and shane are inseparable... Ryan what would you do if Shane's gone missing ? #postmortem

This looks like a case for C.C Tinsley

What if she was abducted and then her kidnappers left the cruise books or whatever behind to make it look like she ran away?

I wouldnt trust Stuart Little he a rat

Yo where the qna video for ann a bell

hey you guys could do about the disappearance of the erebus & the terror naval ships, loved the amc series but i'm not sure that an evil polar bear did it

for Shane's theory about pretending to be Kim if she disappeared: the police will probably have your fingerprints checked and see if it matches Kim's (unless they don't have Kim's fingerprints)

Shane and Ryan mention Gossip girl; this show just got a whole lot better.

0:07 Shanes blank stare XD

For postmortem : Just a theory i got while i was supposed to study for my exam . Her brother John could have kidnapped or murdered because he wanted to be the sole beneficiary of their family's will . Maybe the parents knew maybe they didn't. Like you guys mentioned the parents removed Dorothy from their wills 4 and 1/2 months after she went missing and i agree with you , that's too soon to remove your missing daughter from your will. That's definitely not gonna be on my mind if my daughter went missing. And they only notified the police 6 weeks after she went missing and they even told them to stop the investigation. Tell me that's not suspicious

Ma bois are back baby!!!!!!

Keeping up with the Kardashanes

#postmortem what if she got pregnant and the family found out and was so disgusted they got rid of her. Explains why the had the case close and why her father was on the kidnapped and murder ish

America in 1916 : looking for a missing woman Ireland in 1916 : in a war for independence

You know what would be an amazing content and also very helpful? You could add a new category about children or any person missing . You could either dip into old cases to prevent kids from being unsafe out there or help the people who are currently missing in the world. You guys have the platform you could help so many people, think about that. We love your mystery videos but I really think this would be interesting and can make a change for the better

4:33 Does that man look like Cillian Murphy as Tom Shelby or is it just me?

Ryan and Shane were then escorted by the FBI, and were never seen again

If they could make Nancy Drew, why not the Hardy Boys

is there a theory, where the parents/the dad have something to do with her disappearance/death?#postmortem

#postmortem could you possibly give a brief run down of some of the other theories, like in one sentence? love u guys!

Imagine like 40 years later she calls her mum saying “hey yeah, found my dress come take a look”

Maybe she went to Brum to live with the peaky blinders

Nobody: Literally no one: Ryan: CABO BABY- OOO OOO OOO

"HoT seAriNG TeEnS!!!!" -Shane Madej and Ryan Bergara 2k19

Start your own podcast please

Can u guys pick more interesting case. This is episode so boring , just my honest feedback .

Yay you guys are back

I think they found her married, and instead of dealing with the shame of who she married they swept it under the rug and wrote her out of their will.

I really want to see Shane and Ryan go to Antartica! Make it happen BuzzFeed!

My 70 year old grandma doesn’t watch YouTube and u think a 170 year old woman is watching YouTube?!?!?! Edit: the 170 year old woman is Dorothy

I think she married George when they met and her surname changed that's why when they called the cruise companies there wasn't any Dorothty Arnold because she was Dorothy Griscom now.

Wait they bleep the swears now-

Donate to planned parenthood! ❤️✊♀️♂️

STOP WITH THESE CRAPPY VIDEOS! WE WANT SUPERNATURAL!! #postmortem

Doesn't sound that impossible...

That should be turned into a series...

We love being up to date so I can follow the new episodes

19:40 excellent points made by Ryan

Edward Glenorris was taking about a rich looking man paying him. it have Dorothy's brother...

Am I the only one getting the vibes that the family could’ve paid someone to off Dorothy?

#postmortem if you look at the time period and the fact that she belonged to a wealthy and well-known family, it might have been easier for the family to accept that their daughter is kidnapped and murdered than the fact that she eloped

I'm with Shane's take on theory 1.5

Admittedly there doesn't seem like much, if any evidence against the family, but I can't help but feel like they had some form of involvement.

I really think it was her brother, to try and get her out of the will? #DorothyArnoldPostMortem

Hi

*"So let's just say I look like Kim Kardasian-"*

*She got abducted by aliens*

U have been gone for soo long

If I were a person like Dorothy and decided to ran away, I wouldn't take all of my jewelry to sell it, bc they could trace me from there

I feel like there was so much to this family that we didn't know.... rich people hide things like this. There was probably a lot of backstory here that no one except the relatives are aware of. Was John trying to get his sister to disappear so he could have the family fortune? Did her parents do some sketchy business that she wanted to expose so they got rid of her? The world will never know... #postmortem

#postmortum If Dorothy was looking for European holidays and George was holidaying in Europe she could’ve gone to Europe and used her’s or George’s money to pay the cruise company to tell the police that she wasn’t aboard any ship- or she could’ve cruised with a fake name. So they could’ve married abroad in Europe and vanished or when George came home Dorothy could’ve stayed there or went with George and hid somewhere then moved out into a house with him. (She could’ve changed her name or took George’s to stay hidden- she even might’ve been Mrs Smith from the subway as ‘Smith’ is one of the most common names people use to hide their identity) :)

for #postmortem ... is a little bit weird to me that dorothy´s parents took 6 weeks to take her disappearence to the police even with their private detectives looking for her AND removed her from their wills after 6 months... i MEAN, what if they found out that she really run away and took her of their wills to block her acess to their money?? and never told that they find out because it would be "easier" to drown out the scandal that this would be. it would also explain why they asked the police to close the case. they could also had something to do with her disappearence..

if y’all really wanna hear a story like the kim kardashian one, look up “the return of martin guerre” is the same thing in real life

OLD HAG HHHHHH THE WAY I WHEEZED

As you can see at 7:56 the mannequin in the window thing was still there but at 8:09 it wasn't but at 10:18 it's already there And the disappearance and reappearance of the mannequin remains Unsolved

What if its theory 1.5 and 2? What if her family killed her because she was going to disgrace them by marrying someone below her station?

17:22 the other wealthy man could have been john which is the other heir of the money. maybe another theory? like the guy out of jail could have been brought for questioning on who might have paid him?

The dad did it

I kind of like the idea of Shane and Ryan disappearing on one of their ghost hunts, only for the Worth It guys to take over next season by hiring three different detective agencies at drastically different price points to find them.

5:43 Inside shane: "if he escaped from the king of hell I would be hella shook"

Hell yeah, y'all are back. Binged watched the past episodes and now waiting for new episodes with you 2 has sucked lol.

For Postmortem, I think it's a mix of all the theories. The parents organised for her to 'go missing' as a result of her wanting to elope with her boyfriend, who also may have gotten her pregnant. Her parents didn't want her to be an unwed mother, and also didn't want her to marry that guy & realised the fortune was in danger so had her killed off and written off the will.

none of the theories were family foul-play related? like her brother could have done it so he was guarenteed all of the family fortune? or the parents could have done it or arranged it because they found out she was pregnant out of wed-lock to a man they disapproved of? the whole point that they gave up after only 4 months and everything doesn't sit right with me.

"I'd like someone to give me a lot of money for doing nothing" Hmm, you don't have to go anywhere, Shane

LESBIAN THEORY! Dorothy did elope but with a woman. The family no longer wanted it investigated when they found out and wrote her out of the will in case she came back to claim it after their deaths.

Theory: Maybe someone was blackmailing the family to close the case and write Dorthy out of the will. #postmortem

Shanes perfume would smell like fruity garlic

... donate to planned parenthood... LOVE THESE BOYS

Do all Americans pronounce Dorothy like this? Or just these guys? "Door-thee"

Ryan and Shane are basically the Lucifer and Chloe of Buzzfeed, I'm just saying. An impulsive guy who runs around looking for trouble and the partner who babysits him half the time

"so now we get 10 more seasons of the Garb-Kardashians" LMFAO

No one: Literally no one: Not even the aliens in Area 51: Shane & Ryan: *hOt sEariNG tEEns*

Shane is being too friendly now I believe he has realized people are finding out he’s a demon and he has to hide it better

"keeping up with kardaSHANES"

Bruh ryan be looking like kakyoin in his pyjamas

KEEPING UP WITH THE KARDASHANES

nobody: shane: YOY'RE MY F R I E N D

What if she changed her name and then went to the ships which is quite clever from her

What if her dad found out about the pregnancy and killed her before she could cause a scandal? #postmortem

In his 20s my dad spent 6 months in Antarctica as a physicist, studying the Aurora Borealis. I don’t blame Shane for wanting to spend time in Antarctica; it sounds pretty dope

So proud of Ryan for learning how to pronounce “February”

I bet that Dorothy did elope, her family found out about it but felt too ashamed so they decided to write her out of the will and have the police atop looking to avoid the news getting wind of it

If kim Kardashian ever goes missing,i think we know who kidnapped her

#roastmortem Keeping up with the Kardashanes sounds like ones of those ‘based on’ porn videos

if it weren’t for Ryan & Shane, I wouldn’t know that there’s gonna be a reboot for Nancy Drew lol #postmortem

I think the parents changed the will in case she eloped. They wanted to make sure that her husband had no claim to the family fortune.

youre my friend!!! *wh- WHY ARE U YELLING AT ME YOURE MY* YOURE MY F R I E N D !! !!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who else chuckled when Ryan said "Private Dic"? Hopefully I'm not the only one.

Ryan: * continually insults Shane * Shane: *YOU’RE MY FRIEND*

Do madiline mcann

*Y O U R E M Y F R I E N D !*

The thought process of the grieving parents was probably along the lines of, "If she ran away, that means she doesn't love us, doesn't care about our grief..." but if she was murdered, it takes the blame off of Dorothy for not making contact or coming home. It's really sad, but I kinda get it

I think she was kidnapped and held for ransom and the parents didn't go to the police as one of the conditions. They killed her when the kidnappers weren't satisfied and possibly the prisoner was involved. Maybe her and her possible boyfriend even staged the kidnapping to begin with but it could've gone wrong.

i'd watch 10 seasons of keeping up with the kardashanes

Why is the name Glenorris sound so familiar? Like there's been someone else in these season's with that name.

I love you guys and everything that you do! I wish sports unsolved would come back.

All I can imagine is them saying "Hot! Searing! Teens!" and then someone editing the clip of them touching their nipples to follow that. What is *up* this season, bros? You guys okay? XD

i heard it as " hot tirin teens "

"impossible"

Shane is literally me to all my friends: “YOU’RE MY FRIEND!”

My theory is that she is somewhere over the rainbow #postmortem

Shane: "You're my friend!" ☺️☺️☺️

19:42

*ssssssssss mmmmmnmm... [chipmunk noise]*

0:05 Shane looks enthralled

Who thinks they should do Rebecca Zahau’s case next caz that’s like still unsolved if im not wrong?

I might be crazy but I think they switched from a real studio to a green screen type of thing and it’s weirding me out

#PostMortem - Did anybody bother to check to see if there was a Dorothy (or Dot) Griscom at all? ;)

Good lord Ryan. “...and nAnCy dRaW uP...!”

YOURE MY FRIEND.

Shane couldn't pass as Kim K they would DNA test his booty so fast #postmortem

#postmortem I got all my family into buzzfeed unsolved even my nan, we are all Shaniacs sorry Ryan .

Is noone going to point out their fashionable clothes this episode

I kind of wish the abortion theory was explored a bit more. The parents writing an heiress out of their will and cancellation of the investigation matches with views on abortion at the time. It's sad to say it, but in some families, kidnapped and murdered is a lot easier to handle than failed abortion and death. Leaving home with a lot of cash too? I wonder if there were any deaths confirmed to have been caused by the same place #postmortum

#postmortem I have a strong feeling that it must have been her family, no one writes their children out of will so quickly. that to me just sounds very suspicious, or it could have even been her brother that just wanted her share as well

Do the mysterious death of Tutankhamun

“Donate to planned parenthood”

"In 1910, the 25-year-old left her home..." "Dorothy, if you're watching this, you're probably 127 years old..." What... what year does Ryan think it is...???

14:24 when Shane says "Well..." I thought he'd end it with "Love gives strength at the cost of the mind"

750$ to buy chocolate she was wealthy

Shane is Dwight schrute. That's my conclusion.

So y'all are trying to tell me that Ryan is half of the channel that BuzzFeed, a large corporation, had to make because of his wild success.... And they don't pay him enough for him to have $750 in his account right now. And they probably don't pay Shane any different. We just love that don't we.

-are ghosts real?- *Which chipmunk is getting the best head?*

I think his brother has something to do with her sudden disappearance so he can get all their family fortune

What if the brother killed her? He bribe someone to kill his sister or kidnapped her. And then he comfronts George so that he won't be suspectected, faking that he mourns for his sister's death? What if he was the Little Louie and he suspected that Glenorris might spill out the beans so he moved his sister's body to a new abandoned basement or to a cemetery? But one of the investigator or detective crack it and tell it to Francis. Francis tells the police to stop the searching because she was killed but never told them that it was son who killed her daughter because he wouldn't have a successor for his business. #postmortem

so far we have ryan rubbing his nipples, calling shane daddy, and yelling "hot searing teens!" three times. okay. edit: also ryan getting (obviously) genuinely upset over women's issues and shane telling people to donate to planned parenthood has cleared my skin and raised my grades

Yehey!!!! They are back

DONATE TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD

I think she might have been kidnapped by Aliens

Parents (both equally involved) killed her. Whether it was direct or via an abortionist's room doesn't matter. She shoulda stood up to them years before and left.

I believe her family had something to do with the disappearance. As stated in the episode; I find it very strange/odd behaviour to: 1. Wait 6 weeks after their daughter went missing before reporting her disappearance to the police. 2. Encourage police to stop investigating, after only a few months, and then promptly remove her from their will. Seen many parents hold onto hope that their disappearing child is still alive somewhere, and never give up searching for them until their death. Either her family was cold-hearted as hell, or they were involved in some way. #postmortem

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