I-GUIDE Webinar: The Growing Challenge of Geospatial Interoperability - from Real World to Metaverse

I think the number of participants is still growing so let's wait for another minute or so read my mind we're always on the same page well I think the numbers looking a bit stabilized maybe we should get started greetings everyone thank you all for joining us today's zyguide webinar um at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign I'm serving as the Director and the principal investigator for iguide for those of you who are not familiar with iguide iguide is a national Center funded by the U.S National Science Foundation we're focusing our efforts on harnessing the geospatial data Revolution for tackling a variety of sustainability and the resilience challenges across a number of geospatial scales today it's my great honor and the pleasure to introduce our speaker Dr Nadeem alame who's the CEO and the president of the open geospatial Consortium ogc she's responsible for creating and integrating the Strategic Direction and business plans of ODC in partnership with the board members and staff of ogc Dr lame is a really uh well-known seasoned leader in the tech and the business industry with the focused commitment to incorporable information exchange technology and process Innovation prior to her current OTC roles she had served ODC as a director and then executive director of ogc's interoperability program leading initiatives Universe domains including for example Earth observation Aviation Public Safety and defense and in addition to her leadership roles in ODC she has been in a variety of industries of course always focused on geospatial challenges and Innovation and problems she led multiple small business startups as well as worked for some big companies in the interest with time I would not be going to the details of her distinguished career and accomplishments Dr alame is a graduate of MIT with the PHD in computer and information systems engineering and Masters in civil and environmental engineering and Masters in City Planning all of her degrees with the focus and specialization in geographic information system GIS and without further Ado uh let's give a warm welcome to Dr Lamey to our webinar and her talk title today is the growing challenge of geospatial interoperability from The Real World to the metaverse very exciting and timely topic today and for those of you who are here if you want to ask questions please use our q a feature at the bottom of the zoom screen and also feel free to type your thoughts and notes into the chat box without further Ado please nedi take it over thank you so much thank you so much Sean for this uh you know warm introduction I'm very very happy to be here I'm very happy about the partnership between OTC and I guide and I'm happy to see Dr Josh Lieberman um on the attendee list as he's representing ogc and the I guide activities um I'm also very happy if I'm not crazy I also see Dr Joseph Ferreira and he's the reason I'm here so you talk about all the work that was done at MIT uh so it's Joe 100 so this is you know I don't expect this but this is an amazing opportunity for me to say thank you thank you thank you for everything that you've done you know to you know for me and for all the other students who were hungry to learn about geospatial information and GIS so um for everybody on the line you never know how your past gone across so this is this is really just the highlight of my day to be honest Joanne so thank you yeah I think before I have a PowerPoint that I'll go through uh I'm pretty sure it's a lot already um but before I start I it would be good for me to understand or to know more about who's with us on the line who's taking time out of their busy day to actually be with us here today to better understand the challenges of geospatial interoperability and try to help us overcome those challenges so if you share with me who you are I'll tell you who I am so that would be the deal uh before I tell you anything you have to tell me something first um so I'm gonna share um a quick question here and if you have access to a laptop or um to your phone um if you can please fill out this quick thing about who you are and you can say I'm a geek I'm a software developer I'm a GIS uh you know uh holic geoholic I'm a climatologist I'm an urban planner I'm a transportation I love climate I mean you can say anything it would be good to understand and hopefully we can start to see some of what um you are you know you know who who your peers are I think in this webinar so can you see the question tell me who you are and you have the mentee meter so uh I like what I see already um I really love the mix when people mix geospatial and spatial and location uh it's all coming together very quickly I like the Nerds go nerds um we have users we have economists we have local people we have remote sensing people Educators students data Specialists data scientists managers and we can see now like hydrology I see what else climate uh trade environmental justice that is so cool and novice thank you for for being here novice students this is amazing you're you're the future uh pointy hat Guru cyber GIS this is fantastic special spatial logist I haven't heard that one before so that's good I can share this but this is this is really great so uh we have an amazing mix essentially we're not all nerds we're we're coupled with the application people coupled with the experts and with the novices and everything in between and we won't be anywhere without the cat herders and the managers so looks like we have a great group here Joanne so I say let's uh get to it so um I'm gonna stop sharing this screen and if you can um let me see how I can stop sharing this and I want to share um my PowerPoint deal so if I share my PowerPoint let me know if you can see my PowerPoint yes all right looking perfect so uh I loved learning who you are and I'll have a couple more questions for you later so here's who I am so you can see uh where I'm coming from because eventually it's all about us people you know the challenges maybe the challenges of the world of our environment of our planet of our universe but the the solutions are all us um so um uh I grew up in Beirut Lebanon uh and I went to the American University of Beirut and I was very I think very fortunate to be one of the top students who were selected to go to MIT and that's how I got to work under Joe Ferreira uh so the ticket to MIT was like a ticket to Disneyland Disney World uh for geeks uh it's a great place um and it was eye-opening because I went to the urban planning department and so this was a degree in City Planning and done very very quickly uh this is in the 1990s um uh very quickly realized the power of GIS because all of a sudden you're talking to Transportation Engineers you're talking to environmental Engineers you're talking to the computer science department because a lot of us databases and paralyzation and these days Cloud this is all you know in the computer science and the computing of course urban planners so all of a sudden I think GIS became really just a gateway to so many other communities that could use you know this technology essentially um the most amazing thing is that uh it was the early days of web services right so this was when OTC was developing the web map service the WMS and by the way uh the OTC website so I was digging yesterday the WMS Remains the most queried standard in geospatial right and ogc is celebrating 30 years next year so imagine the power simple idea right let's get some data layered right energy of spatial contacts the Simplicity I think of that standard is what opens the doors to so many of us so including when we realized that uh the WMS was also used uh in the rescue efforts 9 11. so 911 right September 11 in the US was a major turning point for interoperability major turning point because you have to get data from multiple sources every piece of data is different metadata is different formats were different so you see the driver um so I was again fortunate to be indirectly involved right because they used some of our web services that we developed at MIT some of our client software and for those of you who are immigrants to the US this is how I got my citizenship and the us because it's what you know the geospatial contribution to rescue efforts is something of national interest and I go back I say all of this is because I think today between climate and National Security and food security these are all issues of National Security which whichever country you're from there there are issues of Global Security and you are at the center of it so amazing right to know that what we are doing right actually has impact so much impact on everybody so I think that's maybe Point number one I ended up getting to NASA uh uh to The Goddard uh space flight center here in the Washington DC area and no surprise I ended up in this group called The geoscience interoperability office because NASA has all this data a lot of people use this data and you don't want to give it to them one by one so once again can you guess what we use to make all this data discoverable and available the ogc web services so we used in that case the web coverage service because that's you know the complex 3D four-dimensional data fascinating um and uh throughout through all of that you know you can see it's been like ogc ogc ogc uh then I said uh I think that was like 2015 I said you know what I've seen everything in geospatial I want to do something new let's start a business so I started a business in air traffic management it was the information management of air traffic information right uh thinking wow I'm doing something totally new and can you take a guess what it ended up all being about let me tell you uh airport maps maps weather information weather forecast which is the biggest disruptor of Aviation it's all geospatial right uh you want to take the flight plans the flight routing the flight rerouting just special just special just special still your like wow I think once you see geospatial and you appreciate it you actually see it everywhere and I think now finally in 2023 it's not just us seeing things everywhere geospatial I think everybody is so we are cursed my friends we see geospatial everywhere but that's our power I I generally think that's that's the uniqueness about this community that's why you know initiatives like I guide are so important because the world is realizing what they could do with geospatial and you could do right we are We Are The Missing Link for so many things which is fascinating so I hope I'm not the only crazy one do you see geospatial too everywhere I really hope so so I also I think um I am I feel so lucky I hope you do too I feel so grateful because we live in these unbelievable times I mean you look at this I hope the video is coming through but data is easier to collect than ever this is a little piece from AGI it's on YouTube 27 of these commercial satellites here building around the Earth are collecting Earth observation information seriously that's a lot of data right and this is not just the NASA and the NOAA and the European Space Agency or the Japanese or the Canadian space agencies this is now commercial that's what's been happening the last three years the booming of space which is bringing booming and geospatial if you check this number out this is forget about space here on Earth Internet of Things smart cities connected cars drones smart Agriculture and again this there are many statistics but this is a snippet look at this um jump between 2013 and I think 2020 here we had actually an event recently in ogc on ethics ethics and geospatial because location right location tracking and privacy and ethics but what resonated with me a lot is they started the whole event by saying we are living in an age of datification also a new word for me as in Everything You Touch is turning into Data these days it's turning into Data that can be harvested and can be linked to space and time that's again geospatial so I know you know all of this which is amazing so data is easier to collect it's easier to scale right my kids are so lucky they're growing up in this world of you know cloud computing as a default you know how amazing this is we have Edge Computing these days we have artificial intelligence machine learning we're applying all of that to our data it's easier to interact with the geospatial data or geospatially reference data and you know more tools than ever including what I call the simple visualization tools so you don't need a GIS package yes everything can now ingest geospatial and we're blurring I like this we're blurring the line between real data and synthetic data these days and I'll show you some examples a little bit more but I'll show you some AR VR metaverse because yes again my friends we are going to be critical right to the success and the usability and the sustainability of whatever the metaverse this will end up being I'll get to that uh I like this a lot so this is a quick quick video from uh one of our one of the ogc members types are gone um and I I find this amazing think about this we are the geospatial people right we're able to extract features from space Earth observation right buildings trees and then it's not the Xbox or you know PS5 Spider-Man thing these are the real features with the real data that we can link to them right and we can mesh this data with elevation data say you bring it from USGS the 3D 3dep program and this is not Hollywood this is real we can forecast simulate weather winds between or buildings and cities right we are able to do all of this and so much more because we're able to process geospatial information but more importantly we're able to integrate data and then visualize it and I think that's the power of geospatial as people as you professionals you know who you are is this power of integrating data and making sense of it is super super exciting so this is a snippet of what gets me excited I would love to hear what gets you excited because you must be excited you're spending an hour with us so if you can go back to um that amenti so let me share my other screen um right here and let me see what excites you please tell me right so what excites me is this power is the metaverse is the digital twins it's the space it's the internet of things it's everything that we can do what excites you the most about geospatial and I think um let me see this is gonna be everywhere and it doesn't have to be just technology right I mean again you see the perspective because I'm a technical person I see these things I mean I took my kids to Disney World a couple of weeks ago and all I was pointing to them is the engineering of this ride and in the engineering of that right so uh you don't have to stick to Technology and Engineering it could be application it could be honestly sometimes just your emotions um I like the connecting of the data I think we've got that power which is amazing understanding what's where the water the mobility right 3D visualization the real world Solutions the ubiquity of geospatial big time I love the ubiquity of geospatial you know why it's ubiquitous because of people like you because it's ubiquitous doesn't mean it's easy but I think it's us the geospatial people who make it easy for everybody else the global solution love it Maps Urban modeling data accessibility digital twin wayfinding enabling others love that geospatial fusion power perspective 3D planning water places amazing right so this is this is really really exciting um you know this is amazing but uh there's always a butt right um so it keeps coming but I'm gonna move to the next question actually and I'll tell you the butt you know um because we live in amazing times but also we have many many issues and maybe you can share with me what's the biggest challenge of our time and it could be again technical science application human ouch distrust yes communication I think it's one of our main issues actually in geospatial the validation I think goes back to the trust the privacy um uncertainty data management interoperability availability consistence all of it yes fragmentation wow I wish we were in person I want to pick your brains this is this is this is better than my presentation so keep going FX yes inequity sustainability yes and accessibility so all of this again I really think this is also one of our powers of sgospatial people because we have this we're in this field um where you can look at a broad range of applications it's multidisciplinary just by its very you know being right and that's what makes you sort of like you can take a step back and and you can see where these themes are bubbling up and sometimes it's painful to be honest that you know I think I really feel sometimes and this is a feeling so it's not a statement it's a feeling that as geospatial people sometimes we're ahead of the Curve because we see things before others we see the patterns and I don't mean just by the data but also the applications and the use of the technology everywhere so this is fantastic and again I'll share I'll share all of that with you um so let me go back and tell you uh what I put in my presentation and so we can we can maybe compare notes yes um so if I go back and I say I want to share my screen so it started with everything it's great but there are issues here here's I have many issues but I'm gonna pinpoint a few here could you please tell me right how we can we're getting to Mars and we have a helicopter on Mars right that we were able to control and we were able to get videos and the robot and all of this but here on this earth right we still have floods that kill people that destroy towns we have droughts we have wildfires and I'm not saying like in the in in certain underprivileged areas of the world this is everywhere this is Europe This is Canada this is Pakistan this is Turkey this is everywhere and then you look at these numbers and this is again there are many numbers but this is from the National Weather Service from the 1990s right 55 events in 10 years versus 90 events in the last five years at Double the cost just process this for a little bit this trend is not good that's that's the simple the simple observation so we live in amazing times and technology and everything and but then these curves right from climate.gov are just alarming all the curves are in the wrong direction it's more greenhouse gases and less Arctic sea ice and more carbon dioxide and less Mountain glaciers and I just like I can't go on and I'll show you something even closer to us that's what you know Josh Lieberman is working on you know in parallel here how come could you please tell me it's 2023 and how come we still dig in the wrong places on our streets even in the most sophisticated places in this world and in this case they're examples from London from Singapore from New York examples of you know outages and wasted in this case what is it like 1.8 million liters of water waste and billions in cost or blah blah blah because underground data is really a mess and we're not mapping it and tracking it correctly right if we're so amazing don't you think we can do better I really think we can do better I think one of our problems is that this this this amazing data that we just talked about is actually really really not findable when you need to find it it's not accessible easily as the way we really want it to be it's not interoperable and it's not reusable it is reusable but it's by Reinventing the wheel sometimes and I think this Fair that's why you hear a lot about Fair these days findable accessible and reusable that's how it became at the heart of the ogc mission recently and that's what we're trying to um uh that's what we're trying to I think get from this amazing Collective knowledge of the geospatial community right how do we get from that to accelerated impacts so I love this this like these are tidbits from the new website of ogc so OTC has a new website if you haven't checked it out but this if it can be this um one place where we can all put our heads together to solve these problems with the power of you know there's the partnership and the capacity building and the standards right and the Innovation and all of that that's what that's why the partnership with iguide just makes a lot of sense right uh I'm very happy actually that ogc is at its largest uh because we're not crazy right none of us here on the line everybody's realizing the power of geospatial they want to connect with people like you um they have a lot of questions there's a lot of innovation from everywhere a lot of data so we you know the world needs this Center of expertise in a way and what's fascinating to me is ogc has been I said we're celebrating 30 years you're all invited to a big party next year um but ogc has been for 25 years third government right you're NASA your DHS your Esa Etc usgf third Academia a lot of universities third industry right you know the Google the Apple the Microsoft the esri the hexagon Trimble TomTom you know I can list them all right five years ago things have started to shift and now today we have about 42 percent of Industry right so there's more industry out there you know why because I think we're getting to a place where other people can build upon this these technologies that we're developing right we're growing the market which is again fascinating so I really really really like this um I think going back to one of our challenges and sort of like I'm trying to communicate to you the shift in thinking that we we're all experiencing as geospatial people but especially rogc as we've been for the longest time talking about what we do geospatial does this geospatial does that did you see what you're special did all about the what standards are amazing Etc and I think what we are here today and the major shift is that we are going back to the basics we have to refocus on why we're doing what we're doing right why are we doing what we're doing and I think our power which is you know you showed it already under who you are and what you're excited about our power is that we are in this interdisciplinary we are collaborative and we've always existed to solve other people's problems think about it that's why that's why I started with my experience at MIT you know here I was learning about a technology to find out that it's actually technology that helps so many people solve their problems and we are so good at solving problems together right again I guide us a great example because nobody can do it alone it's just too big there are too many pieces of expertise right so we have to shift to the Y and the why I'll give you some examples in in ogc for example and I hope if you're following ogc these days you'll hear um this shift I think in the messaging I I hope you hear us talk more about uh you know developing disaster Readiness guides for example let's put our heads together such that when there's a flood we know from A to Z what needs to be done right disaster Readiness guide that's what we did with the sponsorship of USGS Natural Resources Canada NASA and and others right let's get uh I think Josh is on the line and he can answer all these questions if they come up but let's get from data to analysis ready data I think we're all hearing about analysis ready data these days to decision ready information let's stop Reinventing the wheel every time there's a oh my God where should I get the data do you know anybody I mean literally they call us do you know somebody who has building footprints for turkey it's like enough let's make this data findable accessible interoperable reusable analysis ready decision ready right uh that's why you hear us talk a lot about climates you know climate is like the use case for interoperability because good luck having everything that it takes so what we're trying to do at least from the ojc perspective is like imagine if we just defined those building blocks such that people can mix and match and actually do their own thing understanding climate or resilience or the adaptation or whatever it is right impacts on the local the global etc etc this is like the building blocks because you need to bring the Earth observation you need to bring the archive to other data you need to bring the Institute data you need to bring socio-economic data uh numerical data etc etc etc so let's can we just have the building blocks so that we're not all talking about the fundamentals again that's our why as again as not sogc as geospatial people and the more I learn and the more I live I think in the OCC world the more I learn about like the missed opportunities in this case I'm learning about the Marine because we have uh so Singapore land Authority and the the marine and Port Authority um and Natural Resources Canada are sponsoring this Federated Marine spatial data infrastructure pilot which sounds great and then I'm like catching up on what it involves and wow I had no idea if there's an oil spill somewhere in the ocean right apparently we have evolved into into distinct silos the Marine Community has their data and their standards and their ways of describing them and the land people right they have their thing and we have the air right and then this this part of the coast right which is shared right which what is it what did they say 70 of us live near a Coast or would be affected by something it's like wow we need to bridge this and that's why I I like wow I'm learning about this now but it's so powerful right because this is truly bridging two communities at an area that is that impacts each and every one of us you know with with a sea level rise you you need to to do this this is an interoperability challenge this I cannot believe we're only solving today in 2023 but hey we're doing this right and you'll never get to climate anything if you don't link these two communities and imagine how many other communities there are so I can keep going on I think one of our things that we're changing in our heads also is who The Who so he said it's not the what it's the why if we talk about The Who I think we have we have evolved into saying uh you know uh geospatial can solve these problems Etc I think we can do better by saying we can help everyone and anyone solve their problems using geospatial it's very subtle but it's super super important because it shifts our Focus right and within the ogc for example it's just our Focus from we're gonna do all of this too we're going to help other people which means we are lowering the barriers for everybody we're empowering everybody to be able to look at their data from a geospatial lens so that they too can see geospatial everywhere so this is not about standards this is another aha moment it's not just about standards standards are nothing if we also don't share our best practices if we don't share these Readiness Guides of how we use the the standards in specific domains in specific situations standards are nothing if there aren't resources for the developers you know so that's why it's great to see the novices joining us here because they need the resources not just the documents um standards are nothing without the linking between them that's the definition server we can't talk about it at some other points um but we need I think the main message is standards are super important but it's the ecosystem around them that's equally important and here's what's also fascinating me these days that we started with standards right for web services and gml right that's like the 1990s and now we're talking apis now we're talking cloud native geospatial standards right Cloud native geotaf Cloud native Point Cloud native tabular Vector information that's the geopar K flatbirth geobuff and all of that and take that up right we were talking 2D now it's 3D big time right 3D tiling 3D portrayal jio volumes apis and this is just from the ogc lens right take this one step further it's all great if we have the apis but actually the interoperability needs to happen you know like the Marine part we need to bridge these models we need to have these models so it's big time what is it a city model an indoor model an infrastructure model a pipeline model a water model soil model etc etc that's you guys right that's not me that's all you and you take this even up it's not the data it's not the models give me the analysis ready data the data quality the fit for use the sensors the connected systems now we're talk we're we're branding them as connected systems sensors everywhere Digital Trends and so on so I I can really go on but um and that means it just hits because we have a few minutes left the New Frontiers NGO spatial there are many but in my head I see these Frontiers as not geospatial pushing something I see other communities coming knocking on the geospatial door right and saying can you please help me right you seem to understand the patterns for location can you help me in my AI right you seem to know how to track things in the real world can you track things in the metaverse you seem to know how to do things on earth can you do it for the moon can you do it for the sun can you do it for the universe it's mind-blowing and it's just again you talk about exciting so let me show you because it's easier these are all examples from some of the ojc members so operational right not making them up not Hollywood this is for example from cesium the power of taking data real data right and then developing new applications in this case they're just like you know you hand Glide over any mountain you know in this in this world for real you give it the weather uh you know parameters and off you go none of this is fake except you right this is amazing um again I'll share this presentation so you can you know watch the whole videos this is another example from SG where this is the extended reality that's where geospatial is just pushing it's not just geospatial anymore so in this case oh we want to do you know land use planning we go we live in the city almost right so they have this uh you know product called or project it's Urban XR so this is Boston interestingly so hello to everybody you know joining us from Boston but same things like let's select a plan these are the real buildings yeah with the real characteristics and when you change things everything changes that's why when we talk about digital twin it's so powerful right and you just see what happens you can even see things happening at a building level oh what if I change the the zoning right it's not just like a simple map um and again here you can watch the video later but uh even if you pick a building and you want a place that building or you want to architect the building that's why we're talking a lot these days about geobe right this linkage between geospatial and the building information model and the construction energy you see why because it makes a lot of sense because we're ready um this is another interesting thing this is from an ogc company called Crusaders they have this product so this is it's like you're layering things on top of each other oh everything that you see is geoai right it's AI based on Earth observation and other data um and then you have you you can include in this case the tracking of real Vehicles you know again when we talk digital twins that's what we mean read your special people that's again my point here this linking between the digital and the physical world to make real decisions ambulance go here save these lives reroute here is so powerful and it's all geospatial and these are by the way all on YouTube and you can look at them one last example uh again mind-blowing to me so this is by ogc members so AWS and a small startup in ogc called Duality robotics and this is using um a new product I think my AWS called Sim Weaver but the power of this again this is not Spider-Man on PS5 this is the real data okay real data real traffic and now I'm adding simulation of people at scale at City scale so we want to talk Disaster Response emergency response Public Safety Underground we've got you know how it's like we're putting all these pieces together for the public good unbelievable uh this is just for fun but it's actually not for fun at all so I kicked off the ogc member meeting in Singapore uh I think in October this is me this is me and an uh digital reality products um what's fascinating about this is this is me and everything you see on the screen in terms of features right the fire hydrants the pole is real it's real data it has the attributes it knows I'm behind it I'm in front of it I'm under it I'm interacting with it and again this is you know this is where we are in 2023 and this cannot happen without bringing a lot of data together right so emphasizing right the interoperability and fun and in in reality so the last example here because I truly believe it's your next Frontier that's space right so we have we have testbed 19 right now which has a lot of topics I'll tell you a little bit more but there's this whole thing about space right so they're coming to The geospatial Experts to help them with coordinate reference systems for space mapping celestial bodies Imaging celestial bodies tracking right um TNT right positioning navigation space objects from a Celestial body uh space objects from a space object because you're the experts you can do this because you figured it out for Earth and it's the easiest thing to do to come to The Experts that have done it and show that it work right for disasters for climate so as I said this is a tiny bit of despot 19. so

many thanks for everybody who contributes research innovation ideas because that's what our test buds are for thank you for I think all the sponsors in this case uh you know from you know NGA and from Natural Resources Canada and NASA and Department of Homeland Security and USGS and the UK defense science technology labs and ukho I mean I can name some amazing sponsors of this work take a look because this is the future this is seeing the future it's not just apis it's not just Cloud native geospatial you gotta still work on the metadata sorry guys geodata cubes analysis ready data deep learning uh machine learning training good data model driven Federated Cloud security privacy I mean again open science really big for research so my last slide is I'm here and I hope you're here because we cannot do it alone nobody can and I think the core is still missing right there's there has to be a foundation because if this data and this information and these tools and processes and this knowledge is not findable accessible interoper and reusable it's it's impossible so we need the standards we need the best practices we need your success stories we need the Technical Resources that's all great but we also need collaboration we also need the Partnerships we also need education that's a big topic for another day right the capacity building the training of the workforce training of the Next Generation and um it's not Magic sorry interoperability is not magic collaboration is not magic and I think sometimes people think it is it's an investment you have to invest to make things connect you have to invest in collaborating and you want to ask me about one of our challenges it's this not thinking about this as an investment we need to invest to get to everything that I showed you operational at scale sustainable solving real problems so I'm here because of the collaboration um I hope to see you at the ogc member meeting we get together three times a year it's coming up in Huntsville Alabama you can have more information here on this on the slide connect with me with Joanne with Josh Lieberman we we're always here to help to connect to collaborate uh because with that collaboration there's just no interoperability so does that uh maybe I can end it here showing and then we can answer some questions yeah many thanks for this so inspiring talk uh I think it's a good point to um pause a little bit here and we have I think several questions from the Q a I'm wondering whether you could see the questions uh if not I'll be happy to eat it for you yeah I just I'm looking yeah I think some really good questions there for you yes uh so let me start with the easy one so David uh David tarboton sorry if I'm misspelling the name um thank you so the question is um this is all great it's it's my you know I like I love this question it's all great but how yeah um so the question is how is someone to learn what's needed to contribute what is ogc doing to make it standards and this technology developing of advancing accessible to non-experts like students I cannot tell you how spots on this question is right uh because we need to this is part of like the technical part we're lowering the barriers we're creating the developer resources we have now a website part of our website is dedicated to developer resources so you can go find code find explanation we're on Discord right now you know my kids will think we're super cool but we're on Discord and there are Mentor channels we have these prints where we assign you a mentor that can work with you and again like I said the member meetings are good eventually it's about the people right so you have to connect with somebody that's how we learn how that's how that's the best way right because you learn you learn with somebody and uh students so we need you guys to be more involved so I when I started that what you see I started this diversity right this diversity theme we start every member meeting with a fireside chat with a leader a woman leader right and we have a breakout every time to talk about you know inclusion and diversity so at our first Katie member meeting we had that and you know what the overwhelming feedback from the room was we want experience diversity we want I don't know if I can say this age diversity right and this led to the university working group at rogc we need right we need to talk a little bit more about what can this group of amazing universities do together right to help themselves and others we're launching an ogc academy so you'll start to hear about it but again it's it's your contributions right what you see is is this is going to sound horrible but it's just the a platform it's just a forum for all of this you have to do it and then together we share it with the world and we make an impact so I hope that helps a little bit David um malicious use uh oof malicious use of these new technologies uh locate homeless people oh yes I mean that's why I'm I'm very passionate about this initiative called ethical Geo right so I think it was started by ages the American geographic society and they launched the Locust Charter and the whole idea is they're responsible use of this power of geospatial w3c also has guidance on the Geo on the responsible use of geographic information because yes it can be used maliciously um so there's an awareness campaign I think the Locust Charter is part of it um there's now this whole I mean between that and the AI and the open AI right it's like all these guidelines the effects you need to train people on ethics and we were even thinking at some point ogc has this architecture board that oversees you know all the standards that are happening and how they work together and whether there's some criteria or guidance at the standard level where we can say beware this could be used you know for harmful reasons right so I think this is a huge question um Anonymous that's a great question the last one let me see um uh pertaining individual outdoor Mobility major evangelists for a better understanding and greater appreciation of the power of spatial data and Analysis what is your perspective in regard of data availability standards and related major history in regard to indoor environments does indoor navigation remain too Niche to be considered worthwhile of a widely adopted standards that's an amazingly well written question Martin um and a huge topic so all I can share with it's a big topic right um because uh just a tidbit of information Apple joined ogc because of the indoor right so think about it because they they essentially gave ogc this community standard called IMDb which is the indoor mapping database format or MDF um but the whole idea is you know we're gonna eventually map the indoors of the schools of the airports of the warehouses of government buildings um and you I mean even somebody like apple to scale at the global level right still needs an international you know consensus based Open Standards I think that part is is a very positive thing um I think in places like uh you know like Dubai or Saudi Arabia where the the the indoor is huge because the weather is Harsh uh Canada or you know somewhere in the north same thing indoor is super important plus for Public Safety right again emergency response we had this I know I have one minute but we had this project with actually the city of St Louis on the smart reference architecture Smart City reference architecture but the idea is eventually before the fire firefighter goes into the building you you also you know who's in the building how many people does each conference room hold was it reserved that day right how can I evacuate these people I know where the stairs are I can send drones and robots right so all of that you're gonna need the data for indoor and you're gonna need the sensor that goes with it so hope that answers a little bit these are big big questions these are research topics so good stuff yeah I think uh wonderful answers uh Nadine you are dressed in the all uh it doesn't not appear to have more questions from the Q a um I would further reinforce the comment meeting you made there are a variety of ways folks could engage with the ODC for instance for the universities communities the membership for University to participate in ogc is a very modest annual fee for instance my university is a member of ODC and for academic folks I think is a very straightforward to contribute and participate I very excited to hear about the idea of ODC Academy I think there will be a much even broader channel for the academic Community to contribute to the common interest of the geospatial community and this is a very timely addressing the workforce challenges you discussed about so I completely agree with you exciting times exciting times and a lot of work ahead so that's on all of us that's right well for all of us here please join me again in thanking uh Dr Nadine LMA for this very inspiring and wonderful webinar and I hope you all stay tuned uh I got a webinar series is uh one each month featuring such uh timely and critical topics as was the Frontiers in our related fields and go to our website iguy.io to sign up for our newsletter and alerts and stay tuned and thank you Olga again for for your participation today and thanks Nadine so much again for for this uh for this wonderful fantastic presentation thank you for the invitation and for your leadership Sean really appreciate it thanks thanks so much enjoy the rest of the day foreign

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