Emerging Tech Failures: A Reality Check for the Industry | Ep. 101
hitting record so when you're ready go ahead technology is often touted as something that can make our lives better but what happens when people decide that the technology might not be as cool as others say it is we've got some big examples this week of technologies that are failing the gut instinct quiz plus meta has an up and down week as they reveal advertising revenues are up but the government is not happy about how they're addicting young people these topics and more on this episode of today in [Music] Tech [Music] hi everyone welcome to today in Tech I'm Keith Shaw the guy behind the monitors is Chris hello Chris hey what's up uh lots of stuff going on this week thanks for joining us on this Tech Roundup uh let's start right off with the uh right off the bat with some of these emerging Tech failures uh first of all let's talk about driverless cars the California Department of Motor Vehicles has suspended cruises autonomous driving permit to uh this week effectively halting its robot taxi service in San Francisco the DMV said that cruises vehicles are not safe for public operation and the company has misrepresented information related to the safety of the technology of its Vehicles Cruz is a majority controlled by General Motors which has invested deeply in the division and is looking to introduce a fully autonomous shuttle called the origin which does not have a steering wheel or manual controls uh the move basically represents another setback for GM's driver car division as it tries to expand its paid ride service to more US cities to and prove to investors that the business of fing passengers in self-driving Vehicles can be a major profit generator in the coming years last week the national highway traffic safety administration said it opened a safety defect probe into nearly 600 driverless cars operated by Cruz a California agency last year also looked into an anonymous letter that claimed Cruz Was preparing to launch its Robo Robo taxi server service prematurely the other big firm out there that's doing this is is whmo which is backed by Google so or alphabet so uh weo I know that they're big in Arizona in the Phoenix area um they haven't had as many problems I think as as GM's Cruise division um but if you go to the next if you go to the next part here um there was an incident I didn't even realize this happened this happened earlier in the month where you go to the second one I think the oh second article yeah the second article um in San Francisco a w a uh woman was pinned underneath a driverless Cruise vehicle after being struck by a hit and run driver so a hit- and run driver probably hit well hit this person and then she got you know as from the impact of this yeah another driverless car basically just ran her over or stopped but underneath her on top of her probably couldn't recognize probably didn't pick her up right um you know and this is actually according to video footage taken by Cruz the autonomous Cru vehicle came to stop on top of The Pedestrian according to the San Francisco Fire Department video of the Collision was viewed by The Wall Street Journal rescue crews had to lift the car off the woman who was then transported to a hospital with traumatic injury jeez um yeah I I'll tell you like so it's not like this this person was in the car and something happened it was more like a pedestrian as an accident caused by another person yeah now some people in the in the autonomous driving space would say well if every if every autonomous vehicle was on the road and you had no human drivers then you might not have a hit-and run you know incident that would then have this other thing happen I don't think the car stopped quickly when that happened if you look at the writing on the back of the what does it say may stopped quickly yeah I don't think it I think it failed I think it failed that part so and again we've talked about this on the show a few times we've had some people uh on the show talking about some of the failures I think a few weeks ago we we saw there was video of of I it was either Cru or whmo but they got stuck in the concrete yeah like you know there was a construction zone and there was some wet cement and they got stuck in that um I'm sure if if if we looked for it every week we could probably find some more incidents um and that's not even talking about the Tesla stuff where a lot of the Tesla owners are they think it's it's fully auto automated driving um but it's really not it's more of an auto assist type of Technology you're talking about the Tesla self-driving feature selfing mod but it's not really the full self self-driving that that some of these other companies are doing uh in the taxi space plus you know then there's the whole thing that we've talked about about where people are doing nasty things inside of these cars yeah at this point I'm not ever going to get into one of these these cars at least for a while not that they would come to this area I mean the thing is is um again I think they're moving too quickly on this I mean and we're going to talk about this later but I think the same with EVS as well I think companies are just moving too quickly on it and I think they need to polish the Safety and Security and and the tech behind it to uh have them be safe yeah so I I think they're focusing too much on the profit angle and not so much on the uh well you know ethical safety the profit and the profit and the revenue driven on self-driving cars is because they're connecting it to these Robo taxi services which is why you see Uber and Lyft investing heavily into these these car companies CU they don't want apparently they don't want to pay drivers anymore and the idea would would be well we can have these Robo taxis and you can pay you know to get an Uber somewhere but it won't be from a regular driver it would be from one of these robot cars um rather than developing the technology that would allow people to buy them individually I think the big feeling is is that you and I will probably not ever own a self-driving car because they won't be available many many decades yeah um so that's why they're pointing in that direction of the car service and the the share riding Services uh all right so yeah I want to bring the the next story up on this and this is the reason I grouped them together because this is another highly hyped technology that is um showing some some cracks in the armor so to speak General Motors uh again GM has had a bad week uh they are abandoning a self-imposed Target to build 400,000 electric vehicles by mid 2024 the latest sign that automakers are concerned about the viability of battery powered cars and the market for that uh they basically walked back their goal while reporting a healthy third quarter profit despite the hit from the continuing United Auto worker strike the walk out which began in mid September is now costing GM about $200 million a week in profit uh the move on EVS is a surprise one for a company that has bet its future on the technology anticipating that it will eventually phase out sales of gasoline powered vehicles next decade it comes as r including Tesla and Ford Motor Company have also raised red flags about consumer demand for EVS and buyers willingness to pay a premium for them over traditional models again this is why everyone should subscribe to our Channel and and watch our videos we've been talking about this for months uh not necessarily because of the vehicles themselves I mean the vehicles themselves I think are really good yeah it's the infrastructure behind it or to support it is my big problem and then the cost as well and the types of driving that people will do uh to support an EV an EV kind of Lifestyle yeah I think a lot of people and maybe a lot of other Industries have been saying the same thing but yeah it's eeve we're just not ready yet um like you were saying the infrastructure is not there and um yeah I mean are you rushing out to go buy an Eevee no I'm not no abs why would I why would I spend another I have one car my wife has her own car yeah and we both travel long distances to get majority of the time to get to work to get to where we need to go and it's like wow I'm not going to give up I'm not going to sell either of our cars for an EV like it's going to be so much more of a hassle we would have to get a uh EV charger installed in our house and right now our circuit board our circuit breaker already maxed out yep As Told by our electrician and it's going to increase our electricity bill it's 12 what is it what was it uh we talked about this before MK MKBHD I it 12,000 12,000 Watts 1.21 gigawatts like give me a break I mean again personally I don't what but what's interesting is that that you might be in the market for such a vehicle because you do have a longish commute so in theory if well again you've got the house you've got the house issue where you'd have to upgrade your circuit you could drive to work and and charge it here in the garage that allows for those charging stations they have charging stations here in the garage only a couple well you'd have to fight people for it I guess exactly I don't want to fight over I mean how you should I mean I mean look where we're located right we're located somewhat within a city right so well it's city is there's probably like 10 or 12 electric vehicles that are parked in our in the garage here easily I don't know I I I thought all the were in the basement and I've never gotten down that far in the basement no they're on the uh the first floor I believe well I think they're also in the basement they I think they have another level down there imagine if that flooded that's a good point maybe they're not on that yeah no they're not in the basement they're on the first I know we had a lot of we had a lot of uh drippy droppy uh rain stuff over the summer and I noticed that parts of the garage had big puddles in them um I don't think I'd want to have my an EV parked in one of those big puddles yeah no definitely not um but yeah I mean I'm I'm not surprised I'm not surprised it also feels like that the consumer demand or the lack of demand would be for what other families use their car for I mean there's a lot of road trips that you take in the summer or vacation type things or driving to Grandma's house for the holidays and that's where the infrastructure comes in where you know if you don't have the right charging station network or if it's on the right path you're going to be in trouble I saw an Instagram uh reel the other day of this guy was like he was this was not a Tesla charging station this was the other network that's available and he he filmed there were four charging stations there and three of the ones the only open ones there were three of them and all of them were broken and all of them were out of service and he's like I'm going to just have to like leave this car on the road and just be dead yeah I because I can't charge it at this station like this is the only station I could do this at I think the only people I mean I think a large majority people who are going to buy EVS one are going to be comfortable being able to Define you know they're only going to use their EV from point A to point B that's it they're not going to use it really for any other travel it's going to be defined they're going to use their EV for a defined mode of transportation for a defined location um so there's that another option is one you can afford a second car or a third car yeah and it's it's going to be your just for commute just just for commuting within the city or something like that um and yeah I think that's really the only two the the other disappointing news the other disappointing news I've been hearing about this is a lot of these automakers are abandoning plans to try to make these less expensive so maybe it's because they they think that the techn technology even if they were able to develop a less expensive version then maybe the market wouldn't buy one of these things yeah so they'll just develop higher end stuff because they know that those types of people that can afford it might be more interested in in an EV future right or an EV type car yeah I don't know I look at um like where where do you think this is going to you think this is going to be a full backlash slowdown or is this a temporary blip and then they'll get they'll get this this solved I think it's going to be a Slowdown I think it's going to be a Slowdown um I mean if we just look at Ford and the Ford F-150 Lightning yeah that was their pickup truck right I mean how much revenue did they lose from it I think it was like 75% it was some take that with a grain of salt but that's what I remember I remember it was a substantial amount of Revenue that they lost and um and even even Tesla has issues with the cybertruck like they're not are they even for sale no they I think they they bailed the Cyber they bailed on the Cyber truck I believe um but even Tesla the regular the Tesla models Tesla y whatever the sedan model I think they've even lost money on that as well um because I think people are starting to realize it's not so sunshine and rainbows trying to drive it anywhere you want to go you know cuz again you have to you have to make sure there's Chargers where you're going and you know ranging and stuff like that like I don't drive an EV for that you know CU I I don't want to be in that situation yeah right so um at least at least we're seeing fewer and fewer stories out there of the big push towards EV I think maybe the government's backed off on some of these these push you don't hear as much maybe it's just because I'm not monitoring the news as much or there's so much other news going on with world problems and things like that that uh you know it's on the back burner I think what's going to happen is you're going to see a Slowdown yeah you're going to see a Slowdown in EV sales I think that's inevitable my my opinion that's what I think I think you're going to see a slow down in EV sales which which shows you that money talks for a lot of people it it does companies you're going to see the slow down and then what's going to happen is you're going to see an uptick and hybrid mhm and this is where Toyota comes in Yep they're going to dominate that market just like they they did from the beginning with their hybrid model the Prius right and uh you're just going to see more hybrids you're going to see more hybrids the new Tacoma is a hybrid the new Forerunner is going to be a hybrid and and and you know we just have to think about this too but Toyotas is one of the highest selling car brand out there yeah so let's just assume okay and again people might have issue with this but let's just assume Toyota is the top car brand out there one of the top yeah so I think Toyota's going to crank out more hybrids cuz I think that's really the way to go okay it's not full electric it's not full gas it's in between it's in between it's more sensible it's it's much more easier for people to buy into that yeah and it's more the infrastructure is there to support a hybrid because you've got gas stations and then you've got charging stations well and they're self- regenerative right it's got the regenerative braking all that and can charge the battery internally and stuff but and they're less expensive than an EV correct well still slightly they should be yeah well slightly more expensive than a regular gas vehicle right but you know Toyota's going to do its thing and then hopefully you should see the other car makers kind of jump on board and and continue their their push with um with hybrid but I yeah I there's there has to be a Slowdown in EVS I just don't see it yeah I think that the money see if you know a lot of vehicles on empty on on lots that are unsold you'll start seeing either a price drop as as they try to get these off the lot or like they'll they'll they'll switch to a different version yeah yeah CU like if if we if we looked outside right now if we looked on like Google Maps right and we looked around for EV charging stations right if if there were as many EV charging stations as there were gasoline stations then yeah I don't think I don't think uh the car manufacturers would have an issue selling those cars yeah but again the infrastructure is not there so I think it's it's going to be a Slowdown all right so I want to this this story is NE not necessarily a tech fail but it is something I wanted to talk about there was a security firm that is now claiming it it can unlock the iron key USB drive which is holding 7,000 Bitcoin hostage basically um but the owner of this is politely declining this offer so let me give you some backstory on this CU this was uh this was about 10 years ago Stephan Stefan Thomas was awarded 7,02 Bitcoins over a decade ago in exchange for helping produce an animated video about the budding cryptocurrency uh what he the programmer stored the digital currency on a highly encrypted USB drive known as an iron key and he wrote down the password on a sheet of paper for safekeeping o predictably that piece of paper ended up missing and the crypto has been locked in digital Purgatory ever since so this was about 10 years ago so the device has a built-in mechanism that only allows for 10 password guesses before its contents are destroyed in 2021 Thomas told the New York Times that he has only two guesses left so his first eight guesses on what this password would be were wrong um now at the same time a team of hackers and cryptographers formed uh a startup called uner which specializes in breaking into lock drives like the one Thomas owns and early 2023 they started working on iron key devices similar to what they believe Thomas is in possession of as part of an operation they call Project Everest uh the team eventually found some cracks in the armor bits of code that looked sloppy or was written in a way that was not idea they bought every example of the Aging device they could get their hands on and used high-end technology like CT scanners to help reverse engineer the drive uh going as far as to build a full 3D model of the sticks secure Enclave now earlier earlier in July the team said they successfully read the contents of a decrypted iron key drive for the very first time so now what they want to do is they reached out so then they reached out to Thomas to see if you know hey we we we can we can unlock this they probably want a percentage of the Bitcoin to be honest um but Thomas basically said he's always he's working with a different set of experts on recovery and is not in a position to negotiate with someone else right now uh it is possible that the current team could decide to subcontract to you un cered if they feel that that's the best option quote we'll have to wait and see so the value uh currently of Bitcoin is around [Music] $34,320 million as of this writing so wow yeah so there's a lot at stake now the article also said like don't feel too bad for this guy because he's also got millions of dollars from other Ventures so it's not like he needs the money yeah at this point um but and obviously it's a warning for please you know don't write your password down on a sheet of paper because it'll eventually get thrown out or you'll misplace it or you'll forget where he should have just copied his USB drive to another one just make versions of it maybe you can't I don't know well I know I know you can't yeah you can't necessarily do that that's the whole point of the secure drive so you can't copy it then you'd be really you'd really be rich I mean copy and paste the whole 10 password it's all one and zero ones and zeros isn't it the whole the whole 10 10 guesses before self-destructs um I guess guess was a security feature of of this device um it makes me think of movies that you know where you only get two or three guesses before the the system breaks down um but it's I just I just think it's an interesting story I don't know if you're as interested in it as I am but I honestly I um it's weird it's like you don't really hear much of Bitcoin at all anywhere except for the people that will automatically tell you when they're in Bitcoin I mean I don't I mean I'm not trying to find news and and Bitcoin and stuff like that but well I think what you know the whole Sam bankman free trial that's going on right now we haven't covered that but um have you been paying attention I mean other other than everyone turned on them no everyone took plea deals except for him of course and so I think he's set to testify so maybe I'll pay attention to his testimony um but um it's it kind of reminds me of um what came after Bitcoin nfts yeah you definitely are gone right those are dead right well okay because sometimes and again this this this Taps into the whole theme of of almost every story that we're talking about today it's sometimes Common Sense makes sense you know with a lot of these Technologies there's all this hype that goes around certain Technologies and then you know you you do the gut instinct check and you're like well that's not really for me um arvr is another area of of Technology that we're trying to like promote and hype and and then if you know if you ask an average user about it they just go that looks stupid or I don't think I would ever use that yeah um I mean the interest on the even our audience is not interested in arvr as much as I am apparently because every time we do something on arvr no one comments or talks about it I actually have a friend who uh messaged me the other day he he asked me if he's interest if I'm interested in his arvr headset I can't remember the name of it but he trying to s it to you she just trying to get rid of it use one it's just it's turned into a paper weight doesn't really use it doesn't find the I've got the the PlayStation one the first one that's collecting dust on my shelf but like I okay I'll probably like if I had one okay i' I'd probably use it a couple times and say oh okay I got my my fun out of it and then yeah I mean I was thinking about I was thinking about getting the The Meta uh Oculus 3 m the new one or the quest 3 that that that's what he that's what's oh he wants to sell you a quest three or Quest two I think so he's probably buying a quest three and he wants to get rid of the quest two the previous one okay I would if I I would say no I would hold out for the three the three is probably 500 bucks let me uh yeah yeah yeah I I can I can um talk them down on the price while we do it we'll do this live on the show um I think it was a quest I don't know okay anyway I'll find it later all right I and so I haven't purchased the the quest 3 yet only because I ran into some other Financial issues with my house and my kids so my disposable income is not as high as it was maybe a couple months ago or last month or the last time we talked about this yeah um I don't know maybe I'll maybe I'll go unlock some of my Bitcoin somewhere um but speaking of the metaverse and the parent company meta uh they've had one of those good week bad weeks type of situations this week first of all they reported record sales as their ad rebound is continuing uh basically they reported their largest quarterly Revenue since going public more than a decade ago as demand for advertising picked up and the company continued to reap the benefit of cutting costs and developing new a AI technology meta sales increased at $ 34.1 billion up more than 23% compared with with the year ago this represents meta's third quarter in a row of rising Revenue after the company saw its business shrink for most of 2022 the 23% increases meta's largest year-to-year growth in Revenue since the third quarter of 2021 so um basically their their fortunes turned around during what CEO Mark Zuckerberg has called the year of efficiency investors have been encouraged by improvements to the company's ad targeting capabilities and advancements in AI its turnaround and advertising has been a crucial factor in its rebound after Apple in 21 implemented privacy changes that erase $10 billion of revenue for meta in 2022 so they went back to their roots with obviously face book and Instagram and advertising and um I think they they got they sort of downplayed the metaverse stuff although recently with the the quest 3 they've ramped it up back a little bit um they jumped on the AI train just like everybody else did um their big contribution is the those AI chatbot assistants like Kylie Jenner is it right Tom Tom Mr Beast which getting panned all over the place I I haven't gotten access to him yet but cuz we need that right that's the last thing I need in my life is well what about um threads no isn't threads part of threads was launched and you know I haven't gone on threads in probably since the last time we talked about threads yeah um no interest at all in that same here but I mean I've also dropped Twitter X like I don't use that as as much anymore if at all um you know what I like I've tried this recently it's this new thing um just called you know like getting together in person I was to say social interaction I've tried that well no it's just social interaction you know just seeing someone's face in front going out and actually hanging shaking someone's shaking someone's hand giving someone you know like a fist bump be like hey give them a wave or something that was awesome all right so that was the good that was the good news for a meta the bad news is this was this was big news um a coalition of 41 states in the District of Columbia have filed lawsuits alleging that meta platforms intentionally built its products with addictive features that harm young users of its Facebook and Instagram Services the lawsuits in federal and state courts say meta misled the public about the dangers of its platform for young people the states also allege that meta knowingly has marketed its products to users under the age of 133 who are barred from the platform by both meta policy and federal law the states are seeking to force meta to change product features that they say pose dangers to Young users um these lawsuits basically followed failed settlement talks with meta according to people familiar with the situation uh this comes after a joint multi-year investigation led by Republican attorney general Jonathan scetti of Tennessee and Democratic uh Philip wiser of Colorado he's the Attorney General in Colorado um I'll tell you they don't need they don't need much evidence to to show that Instagram is is uh addictive yeah they don't uh I can I can certainly send video of my three teenagers using it and just sitting there staring at you know doing this all day I I I'll admit myself it's addicting for me if I have 10 minutes to kill or 15 minutes to kill I'll just start scrolling on Instagram and seeing all these little funny videos and again Tik Tok too I mean it's a Tik Tok thing as what do you think makes it addicting I I haven't been able to you know what I haven't really thought about it or pinned it it's I could tell you okay go ahead what is it so in my opinion but you don't use you don't use all this stuff I have Instagram okay do are you would you claim that you're addicted to it I think we're all addicted okay I we're all addicted to an extent to an extent but I mean whether it's whether it's Twitter Instagram Facebook even your Facebook Newsfeed it's the it's an algorithm the algorithm is designed to put the things that you want and like to see in front of your face every time you scroll up or down yeah that's it it's the algor it's the algorithm makes it addicting it's just like this hit of little it's the hit of dopamine that you get when you watch something you're like oh that's funny and and and it goes oh we've been watching this for a full minute so I'm going to send you more like that exactly you you hovered over this in the same thing with YouTube let's not forget YouTube oh yeah YouTube shorts are the same way YouTube YouTube YouTube yeah it has an algorithm mhm it exists um I wish we could get on that algorithm to get more people to watch our content right but if we want it to be less addicting if we want our platforms to be less addicting it needs to not function the way it does currently well I can't run off of an algorithm like that so if you change the algorithm to start sending me things that I don't don't want to see then and then I'll just stop what it what it means is you're going to have to or yourself you're going to have to look for yourself what you want to see I don't know if they're ever going to do that of course not because how can you make money off of that how could you monetize that yeah it can't be monetized so yeah I mean and and and the advertising Revenue that they're getting from that is showing that it's working the algorithm's working the algorithm is working and you know people are are scrolling through things um and some of them are clicking on these ads because you wouldn't if you're an Advertiser you're not going to support someone that you're not going to support a platform if they're not if people aren't clicking on it right right so you know it'll be interesting to see if they settle this case um but it's clear I mean they've got they've got documents I'm sure that the governments have you know you know a lot of evidence here and then but who knows I mean the government has not been good at reigning in big Tech over the last five four five years think and I'm pretty pessimistic on this but I I don't think anything's going to happen to this I mean look at how they they handled um shoot what is it uh what was the big hearing they had probably Tik Tok yes Tik Tok oh speaking of algorithm yeah there's Tik Tok um yeah I I tried to bring that up earlier yeah but looking at how they handled that again I don't think anything's going to happen of it well Tik Tok has great lobbyists that apparently have just gotten these government people to to ignore the whole issues there right all right so I don't know where how this is going to end up but um probably M probably Facebook will win at some point SL meta all right let's move on to AI Corner uh which is our little I just made this segment up but we've got two stories uh in the AI space first of all uh over half of employees have no idea how their companies are using AI uh I guess you could take this as either a good news bad news thing um exactly how AI is taking over the workplace is still a mystery to many workers over half of employees at 54% say they have no idea how their company is using AI according to news survey conducted by ukg a human resources and Workforce Technology Company uh this is despite the fact that the majority of SE Suite leaders at 78% say their company is using artificial intelligence today Executives who responded to the survey estimate that 56% of their Workforce is directly using AI to automate or augment their job tasks meanwhile among workers already transparently using AI 75% say it makes them more efficient productive and accurate this result matched a majority of workers surveyed at 75% who said they would be more excited about AI if their company was more transparent about how they were using it so there's a disconnect between workers who don't know whether their companies using Ai and you've got the sea level Executives above here who are saying oh yeah yeah yeah we're using it we're using we're using it oh oh they are definitely going to have plans sure using yeah I'm sure that they're not going to use it at all to eliminate any of these employees um now the the half of the ones that do know that AI is being used I think it does show that once you use it it does help you become more efficient in theory in certain ways I mean you and I I mean we keep exploring all these tools um just for example some should we even reveal this Chris yeah I'm going to have to admit I have a confession yes okay I think we talked about this last time on our last our last news Roundup I think we did but it needs offal help you build it helped you build a website description page right is that what you're going to talk about or you're going to talk about this show in particular I was just going to say in general I mean I I know we poo poo on AI a lot Well we I'm I'm trying to keep it right down the middle here I'm saying that there's good and there's bad there's good and there's bad Dark Side Light Side you know that generally I try to lean towards the bat a little bit just cuz that's glass half empty I'm a miserable miserable guy but um yeah no I used it a couple times uh lately um again I was building that website and um it helped out astronomically and I think we should admit that we're uh using it to help try to optimize our headlines just to to write man like I deal with video all day it's it's like my my my um writing skills aren't that great so you know I use it to try to help uh you know put a draft of something together and then you know you edit it after the fact and it works out but you know I did use it sometimes to try to like optimize like titles and descriptions and stuff like that and it does great it does great so you know using it here and there yeah but um yeah I should definitely not we've used it for some used it for some thumbnails on maybe Concepts that we've been talking about on the show that we don't necessarily want you know my face or the guest's face on there so we've done those um so I do like some of the image stuff uh Dolly 3 is really impressive that's the uh image that's the image Creator from from open AI so they make chat GPT they've it's also been integrated into Bing with Microsoft's investment so I've used Dolly 3 with Bing and I've created some some very nice uh images just practicing on certain things um the use of letters and numbers are a lot better than Dolly 2 was um I have not I'm I'm hoping that mid Journey will uh follow suit at some point too with uh uh a better way of of getting those those numbers and letters drawn because that would solve a lot of problems I've had with some of these images we've created um yeah I I think that's some of the ways that we've been using it I we could die dive so much deeper into a lot of AI tools I just haven't found the motivation yet to learn to get over that hump of all right learning how to use it to optimize some of these tasks I don't I don't necessarily have a lot of um I don't necessarily have a lot of redundant or dull tasks that I I think the best way to like learn how to use it and stuff like that and and learning a way to try to integrate it and what you do is to just play around with it yeah just mess around with it just you know I think if most anything at it yeah if they if they play with it if they find some of these tools if they they practice with it they might find that they will be more efficient um and it's probably better to be understanding of this rather than just be ignorant I think I think what would make it easier for people to adopt or learn more about how to use AI is to literally treat it like a AI person like you have a robot sitt sitting next to you like Jarvis right just ask it anything ask it a question you know what term is already annoying me which because everyone's using this term to describe their AI tool what's that co-pilot oh co-pilot it's it's it's a brand that Microsoft is like they're calling all of their AI co-pilot stuff but I've seen other companies kind of Co-op they they need to call it kit kit only if it comes in a black Trans Am like yeah yeah just call it a kit I don't know why they can't call it Jarvis I suppose that Marvel Comics would have an issue with that yeah um copyright license name I don't know but kit what about Kit there we go I don't know the people from Night Rider might get upset about that but that's the idea is that they're that they're they're not there to take over your job they're just there to help you do things better right unless you've got one of those jobs where you have a job that or a task I me most people are saying that that's going to automate tasks not automate jobs yeah I was looking through um my shorts the other day uh it was either Facebook or or Instagram but uh something came across my feed and it it was showing um these uh people Plastering drywall y on the ceiling Y and one of them had those robotic uh packs on them okay you know those hydraulic robot things like an exoskeleton yep and it was helping her keep her arms up yeah drywall without pain without you know fatiguing your physical muscles they were using these exoskeletons and stuff like that and kind of like that you know it's just there to give you uh yeah um I had a really good comment now I've lost my train of thought I mean it's good for people uh who can't you know who have issues walking and and moving and stuff like that I know Hyundai Hyundai invested uh a little bit of their stuff into that Tech but anyways all right if I remember what my thought is I'll I'll come back to that but um there is one more story which concerns me a little bit uh and that is uh another a new tool is letting artists fight AI image Bots by hiding corrupt data in plain sight um so the latest effort to protect artists and their Creations is Nightshade a tool which allows artists to add undetectable pixels into their work could corrupt an ai's training data this is according to the MIT technology review night shad's creation comes as major companies like open Ai and meta face lawsuits for copyright infringement and stealing personal Works without compensation University of Chicago Professor Ben zauo and his team created night shade which is currently being peer-reviewed in an effort to put some of the power back into artists hands they tested it on recent stable diffusion models inste and in AI they personally built from scratch Nightshade essentially works as a poison altering how a machine learning model model produces content and what that finished product looks like for example it could make an AI system interpret a prompt for a handbag as a toaster or show an image of a cat instead of the requested dog the same goes for similar prompts like puppy or wolf so it's going to so it's going to make it inaccurate it's going to try to mess it up right yeah so there's a on this in gadget story you have that up here right uh yes so see if you can walk me through this this little chart this here well the second yeah so can you can you zoom that in yeah yeah hold on a second H you might even see if you can zoom in on the dog one wait hold on let me just open up in a new tab here all right I think I understand what this is now yeah there we go so with the clean model which is the top left picture that's a dog oh I I get it okay I get it so the second one the second one down in the column is 50 point so now they've they've s they put uh they've they've corrupted 50 samples with this poison pill and the photo of and the AI image of the dog is not as good so so it's working from the top to the bottom top to down right right So eventually they with 300 samples turns a dog into a cat they were turning a dog into a cat and so then the car was turned into a cow the handbag was turned into a toaster the Hat was turned into okay now I finally get it when I first looked at this I'm like fantasyart so then Fantasy Art became pointalism cubism became anime tune became impressionism and concept art became abstract so this is I guess if you're an artist you could use this tool to insert this stuff so that it wouldn't train yeah it to copy your work in theory interesting it'll see if this this is a way that artists can can fight back um but this goes to this is something that could potentially ruin AI because we we've discussed this before for and this could be this could be done with with text based things too I'm assuming that if you have enough it's that whole garbage in garbage out theory that if you if you have if you infect the training data with bad content it's going to produce bad stuff okay go Chris you've got you're pointing at me excited this is the uh agent Smith of the Matrix yes yes exactly going go in and okay so now we're we're living in a there you go right Chris we found we found our agent Smith so agent Smith could bring down this this AI whole reevolution if AI is K keano Reeves then this is Agent Smith we need to find our our keano Reeves who's going to save us from this poison pill yep but you know all right so this is the last this is the last sentence of this article okay tell me how you feel about this all right uh companies looking to remove the poison would likely need to locate every piece of corrupt data a challenging task Z cautions that some individuals might attempt to use the tool for evil purposes might but that any real damage would require thousands of corrupted works so in order yeah you would almost have to scale this to a point like again you don't get to see the cat until you've done it with 300 samples and I'm and I'm sure an individual artist is not going to have 300 samples of their work no that would be poisoned right um You would have you know but again maybe locating which ones are corrupted could be an issue yeah I think I mean I think the point is I want I want the AI image to look better right as an end user well when you ask for a dog you're just going to end up with a cat sometimes you end up with a cat or if you ask for a car you'll get a cow isn't that isn't that a metaphor for life it feels like we should just end on that note it's yeah it's not bad sometimes when you want want a dog you get a cat and sometimes when you want a car you get a cow yep and sometimes you want cubism well you get anime which isn't that bad all right sir thank you for joining us on the Roundup for this week no problem all right that's all the time we've got for today's episode don't forget to like the video subscribe to the channel ask any questions you have below comment give us some feedback join us every week for new episodes of today and Tech I'm Keith Shaw thanks for watching [Music]
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