Day 2 Session 2 Cutting-edge technologies for inclusion
Good morning. Welcome to the second day of the 2022 Zero Project Conference for Latinamerica and the Spanish speaking community. I am Andrés Beroggi and I’m the Head of Management and Diversity of Fundación Descúbreme. I’m a white man,
tall and I’m wearing glasses and I’m 53 years old. Good morning or good afternoon. I am María Ignacia Rodríguez, I am a white woman of medium height, dark hair and I’m also wearing glasses. In Fundación Descúbreme my role is the international coordination chief and also the coordinator of Zero Project for Latinamerica. This project we have the great task of expanding its mission for a world without barriers for the Spanish-speaking world and our region. We want to thank the moderation of Carolina García the vision of experts such as Axel Leblois, president and executive director of G3iCT and Laura Allen the head of strategy of accessibility in Google for their presentations in the session technology at the service of accessibility, given the incredible importance of technology as a tool for promoting independence of people with disabilities as it is seen in the great session that we just heard. We're going to continue
talking about this topic in our next session which is Cutting-edge technologies for inclusion. This panel shows how the use of these new cutting-edge technologies may simplify the life of people with disabilities through their creation of tools devices assistive technologies apps and many other uses. The moderator of this session that is going to be with us friend for the third year because of its great knowledge in this topic it's Ricardo García Bahamonde who is the leader of accessibility and digital inclusion in ATOS Iberia. Also with us we have great speakers Pablo Escobar from CEDETI UC, a richer centre of the Catholic University of Chile, that have created a digital system for the for promoting the reading through games for children with disabilities especially for Down Syndrome children. Also with us we have Claudiu Leverenz from Munevo Drive, a German organization that have created a technology based on smart glasses that allow them to move the wheelchair with the movement of their head.
And also with us is Carlo Castellano from the Association of People with Reduced Mobility in Spain who created Park4Dis app that allowed them to find these park spaces for people with disabilities. We invite you to see the next session. Good day my name is Ricardo García I’m the director of accessibility and digital inclusion at Atos for the Iberian Region, and I’d like to welcome you to this session it is part of the Zero Project Latinamerica Conference for 2022, where we will be talking about issues with innovation accessibility and how these innovative technologies can really improve the inclusion of people with disabilities. I’d like to introduce myself. For since last year I’ve been working with Atos in terms of digital inclusion and accessibility but since 2004 I’ve been working in this area of the inclusion of people with disabilities and accessibility and technologies developing different projects in the United States, Latinamerica and in Europe. I’ve been helping different governments, Universities, organizations, to really advance their strategies and policies in terms of digital inclusion. I also worked for several years in different space organizations in Spain and in the United States at the Georgia Institute of Technology. I’ve worked as a consultant for different organizations
both at the international level and with the United Nations. I’ve got a background in business from the University of Madrid and I’m also certified as accessibility professional from the Institute of Accessibility Professionals. In this session we're going to be talking about issues that are so interesting that are related to how new leading-edge technologies can really facilitate the lives of people with disabilities, but we also think we have to think about the challenges that need to be overcome, how can we make sure that these technologies can really be replicable, scalable, how can they be converted into mass technologies that can be used by different populations and that can help solve all these issues we have to think about all the problems that they're going to face in doing so who can market them who can scale them who can take them to market who is going to pay for these technologies. These are all questions that are very important to think about and it's one of those things that I wanted to bring to the fore in this session we're going to have three very interesting experts with us today, who are bringing their knowledge in developing different innovations that are really so interesting and so important.
We're going to have Pablo Escobar who has a PhD in psychology and he is with the Catholic University of Chile and he's an assistant researcher at the Centre for the Development of Inclusive Technologies or CEDETI at the same University, and he has been researching the cognitive processes that are related to reading writing skills and how technology can help develop these skills. We also have Claudiu Leverenz who is the co-founder and CEO of Munevo and he's going to be presenting his initiative. He holds a degree in IT from the Technological University of Munich and he also has a degree from Ansbach. Then finally we have Carlo Castellano,
who also has a computer sciences degree from the University of Salerno and he with the Association of People with Reduced Mobility, has launched several different Initiatives. He is the founder of Park4Dis, and he will be talking about the initiative it is a platform that helps people with reduced mobility find parking spots and he has also worked with other initiatives such as Solmes and he is the manager of a consulting company that also works on initiatives for people with reduced mobility and he works on developing different software that are targets these markets. So, first I would like to thank all of our panellists for participating today and we could begin with Pablo Escobar. Pablo is going to present La Mesita or tiny table, which is a really interesting project. It's a free application
that supports the development of reading skills among children with a special focus on children with Down Syndrome. So, Pablo please go ahead with your presentation and welcome to the session. Thank you, Ricardo, for that great presentation, we are so thankful for being here joining you sharing the work that we are doing with my colleagues and also, with the other speakers. As Ricardo mentioned I’m going to talk about
La Mesita, the tiny table it's a development that we created in CEDETI UC, we are a multi-disciplinary team from the Catholic University in Chile and we develop these technological solutions to improve the quality of life of people with access barriers. We also have these tests that are fairer, we also have digital and analogue games also related to research and also the development of software focused on the empowering of development of learning of those children with educational needs. Under this context we find a very important problem not only in Latinamerica but also in other places in the world which is the reading and writing learning in children with Down Syndrome. When we see this reading skills profile this profile is shows children with difficulties for understanding what they are reading and also the reading of pseudo words they see the words in cognitive psychology are words that sound as if they existed but they do not exist but when we have to read this type of words, we have to use our phonological awareness in order to pronounce them. So it's this phonological awareness the main chord that explains the development of reading of the reading skills and also it explains these difficulties what happens is that although children have a good reading of different words the reading of pseudo words and understanding is not very clear creating a profile that is similar to other types of genetic syndromes especially in those children with typical development that present a specific difficulty in reading comprehension that have a very similar profile. So research has shown or showed in the 1990s
that eventually the problem of reading for children with down syndrome was where it, was the important problem in the phonological or the awareness and so what they created was like a bypass and not to force the phonological root in the reading learning but creating a different type of reading methods and these are global methods and they did these changes and although we had these changes, we continue to face this problem that children with difficulties in their development continue to see these low rates of reading learning process. The point is science progresses and especially in the study of reading skills and for more than 30 years those initial works realized that, and we started to see that it's not that children with down syndrome have this alteration in the phonological awareness the problem was in the instruments that were not sensitive enough to identify this development. So, research has shown us that for children with intellectual disabilities and children with other types of development conditions they continue a different pattern in different to the ones of the typical development so those skills technical cognitive skills that are crucial for learning to read in typical children they are also applicable for those children with some type of the disability. So we created an alternative solution that is that passes through the technology, and you understand that the technological model allows us to have a more adaptability to the specific needs of these users where we can change the size of the fonts of them also, the time they involved in the stimuli of a screen and the way the texts are also presented and how we can navigate in these devices. We also think that the technological solution is flexible as it adapts not only to the physical needs and cognitive needs and learning needs of these type of students and it's an alternative based on evidence this. The literature tells us that these works in order to support the reading learning process not only for children with typical development but also children with some type of specific difficulties in the learning process that's when we developed this software that we called La Mesita or the tiny table and this software is based on this cognitive model of reading in which we empower these four great groups of skills that we understand are very important for children to learn to read and this simulation of these paths is done through this virtual desktop or desk that is this an innovative component that is different to the traditional models of in the stimulation of reading skills that are based on models of trial and error trial error trial error, and they are also modified but they continue the same pattern.
We thought about this virtual desk in which users can deploy different worlds in which they are going to find words or vocabulary that is related to that world let's say the park, the theatre, the circles, the house, the market and in these they deploy these images that children can manipulate in according to their sites and also, they can manipulate the writing of those words and the system showed us some pre-loaded words but there is always the possibility to add new words and children, or users can manipulate these words. So through this virtual desk we stimulate these paths from phonological skills that are basic for their learning of the reading process the alphabetical principle which is the knowledge of the letters and also vocabulary skills, oral comprehension that we can also work through this software that offers the possibility of being very flexible and we can adapt these to their specific needs according to the context in which these children are learning. Also this application has a user manual which also is calibrated or considered according to the levels in the development of the skills so parents, teachers, can also stimulate these skills through these transference model of the teaching of the learning skills. We tested these the effectiveness of this tool and we saw that down syndrome children after the intervention and this sustained intervention as base of La Mesita they improved their reading learning but also, we found another group of children who did not benefit from this software especially those who had more cognitive problems or disabilities. But the good results of the tool allow us to have a transfer in which what is good for the differential education is good for the rest of the world. And
we could open this use of this tool in the context of pandemic it was widely used there was this word of mouth and people used it we got more downloads from the app because teachers ask parents to use this tool in order to stimulate the reading skills in their children. The perspectives that we have with La Mesita is to have other languages versions and also from the beginning we want to be able to have less or I mean the less changes as possible. So we can have our tool in other languages we have the version in English that we call tiny table and also, we had the transfer of this virtual desk for learning maths through a software that we also created that is called Rakin. And also, we want to create another app that is more basic for those children with greater disabilities and that for the abilities of early communication can be stimulated through this software this type of software. Also, we want to remind you that these apps are free they are for Android and iOS systems and you may download them as well. Thank you so much for this
invitation. Thank you very much Pablo congratulations on the project, it's really an excellent presentation, it is such an interesting project and I think it has so many possibilities to be able to scale it up and extend different languages. I think you're working on a really interesting and the correct way and I think there are so many possibilities to be explored and using this technology is that more people more children can really take advantage.
Now we're going to go to our next guest, Claudiu Leverenz, he's going to be speaking to us about Munevo, it's a technology that is based on using smart glasses that allow the user in a wheelchair to be able to move about using their heads and so, it's really for those users who don't have the ability to be able to physically manipulate their chair it gives them a really interesting alternative to manage the functioning of their chair. Claudiu welcome and please go ahead. Hi everyone and thank you Ricardo for the introduction. I’m super happy to be
here and I’m going to talk about Munevo and assistive technology based on smart glasses. Just as a short introduction who are we. Here I have a picture of Alika, Alika is our youngest user, she's eight years old, she's sitting here in the middle on her wheelchair and left and right to her are my colleagues and also my co-founder Constantine, and it's basically showing their smiles and it's basically showing like what why we're doing what we're doing it's in order to help people and create those smiles on their faces. Munevo was founded in 2018 and Munevo Drive is the first power wheelchair alternative drive system that is using smart glasses. I’ll tell you more how it works in a second. But as of now we're a start-up so nevertheless we
equipped more than 150 wheelchair users with the solution and all were 100 reimbursed. Why? Because it's a medical device and it went to all the regulatory hurdles we also got our FDA approval now in December 2021, so we're currently also expanding to the US hopefully also to Latinamerica. We're very proud also for our team so we're about 20 people already now with people from academia, clinic rehabilitation but actually also wheelchair users have joined our team which makes us also really proud and right now, we're still looking also for contacts in the rehabilitation space insurance players clearancing distributors so happy to connect after the presentation as well. You heard it already maybe in the beginning, so these are the current solutions that people have to use when they are in a wheelchair and when they cannot use their joystick control with their own hands so what happens is that the joystick of the wheelchair is positioned somewhere in front of the chin and then people have to push with their chin against the joystick to drive a wheelchair and then there are different other alternatives such as buttons where you push against the buttons and here in the picture you see that there are a lot of devices in front of the face which makes it very stigmatizing which makes it also very hard to adapt because it's very static and mechanical meaning that as soon as you change position in a wheelchair and that happens on a daily basis throughout the day then those solutions are somewhere in the eye or on the nose and it doesn't really work anymore. So, we really have to rely on a lot of support of rehabilitation experts or distributors that come and have to fix it or some people are trying to push it and often it breaks. And Munevo Drive is the first digital solution the smart glass itself has movement sensors integrated and through those movement sensors we use actually the same movement as you would use with your chin control over the buttons where you push against the button and your head is moving so we use the same movement the benefit of the solution, I’ll go with that in a second, is that it actually can be calibrated the signals that we take from the sensor data we send to an adapter that we can connect to any standard power wheelchair and after that the smart task comes with a lot of features integrated, so we have a camera we have a microphone we have a display and there's also an audio system so by that we show the user information and he also, or she also hears the information read out loud. And that is very important also for
people that have cognitive impairments to really understand how to use the solution. So, the advantages are pretty clear I mentioned the calibration this is something that is done by the user him or herself it takes 15 seconds, so whatever like whatever time of the day whatever position he or she can always adapt it to his or her needs. It's also more comfortable because you don't have anything around your face anymore and through those integrated functions we can connect it also to other devices so it's very intuitive but there's not just benefits for the user. Actually, we thought, and we developed this together with therapists we have specialists and the users in mind. It's a plug-and-play system because it takes us only five minutes to plug it into the wheelchair and we offer a lot of support from far because as soon as we install the solution at home, we can connect it to the local wi-fi and by that get access to remote maintenance meaning that we can update the solution so far, we can fix things from far and it's completely digital, so there are no mechanical repairs in the end compared to the other solutions that often fail or break down and have to be replaced. And we even though one step further.
As soon as we developed Munevo Drive, we found out that it's not just about the wheelchair it's also about the whole environment of the user, so we connected the solution to their phones so people can also make phone calls right now or control their phone we connect it to the computer so that they can use it as a computer mouse and the latest technology or latest feature was to connect it to their home environment so the smart home systems meaning that you can connect it to your tv and turn you know the tv on and off switch the channels you can connect it to the lights and turn on the lights open door open the blinds so a range of possibilities for the user to enhance their everyday life. And we don't want to stop there so we're still continuing to develop multiple things the latest or newest feature that will be released soon is also an offline speech recognition that we'll also want to train to also help people that have speech impairments but that would make it overall easier to connect to the different solutions and have a faster access to these features. If you want to get in touch here's our contact details, I would like to say that we are very much looking forward to also connect to everyone in Latinamerica, I think it's an amazing opportunity for us, we know that we can help a lot of people and we would like your support. So, please, as mentioned before, get in touch with us, and we'll be happy to connect and discuss different possibilities what we can do in order to help more people become more independent and that's my last slide thank you very much everyone. Thank you, Claudiu, what a fantastic presentation and it's a technology a solution that really solves people like problems that people really have and that's what we're trying to do here is to try and solve those day-to-day problems it's just a fantastic solution I really hope that everything goes really well for you, and I wish you all the success. And we'll go on to our third guest
today, Carlo Castellano. He's going to be telling us about his application Park4Dis which as I said it solves those real-life day-to-day problems here it's for people with reduced mobility and so Carlo if you can just tell me let me say this I was really interested to see that one of the rally pilots Albert Llovera, he uses a wheelchair, and he has competed in rallies his entire life but he says then when he gets in his own car, and he tries to find a parking spot he cannot find one and so it doesn't matter he often finds someone who doesn't have a disability card in his spot. So I think Park4Dis is something that could solve his problem. Carlo goes ahead, welcome. Good afternoon everyone thank you very much Ricardo for the introduction. Albert Llovera is a friend of mine in fact and he has participated in this project.
I want to give you a little bit of context. My name is Carlo Castellano, I'm in my mid-50s, white, I use a beard and eyeglasses and today I’m going to be talking about the Park4Dis project. It is based on one of the initiatives of AsoPMR, which is the Association of People with Reduced Mobility in Spain.
I’ll show you a little bit about our team and how we founded our initiative we want to gather and distribute all that information about accessibility for people with reduced mobility because this is really a personal issue as well I saw that there was a lack of information about the certain issues. The primary one being that where are parking spots for people with reduced mobility located. We know where there are, but even if we find out the information, we find that the spot is actually full do can we figure out where the other spots are available. So in the European Union we have municipal ordinances that manage all of these spots for people with reduced mobility. And so we wanted to figure out how we could manage all this information it was something that I thought of because my own personal situation but it's a situation that I share with more than 15 million people throughout Europe. And so, there was a series of local initiatives that tried to manage all of this information on different reduced mobility parking spots, but we saw as a group that think about it in Spain there are more than 8,000 localities and if you wanted to travel and you needed to have to download each one of these applications and all that information you would need one for every single city that you're traveling to and so, we saw that there was a need to create a central platform and we're looking to expand it throughout Europe, and it's become this intercity solution that shows the user in an interactive manner where they can both receive and contribute information about where those parking spots are available.
We've divided into two areas: we've got Park4Dis People which is an app and a web platform that is free for users and first it provides all of that information where the places are what are the local rules for parking, then it allows me to know in this city where can I park is it a loading zone etc. and I’ve often found when I go to park in a place that I’m not very familiar with that I’ve come back, and I’ve got a fine because I wasn't aware of those local ordinances. So, you know it can be such a nightmare, so we decide to incorporate that information. So, we decide to guide people to those places then we can also allow our users to report information for example to the municipality if they have found that for instance it's being occupied by someone else. And technology also allows them to be able to reserve certain places we found that there was a need for the different municipalities to be able to manage all these problems in order to improve the user experiences and to be able to update all of the spots that were being made available and to be able to provide the information on the fraudulent use of the disability cards that are available, for example those people who might borrow their grandparent’s card to be able to go and park near the beach etc. We want to be able to have that
information and gather it together and so we've been able to invest in order to continue to add more and more features to our platform. We've been able to bring together a lot of different statistics and now we are seeing that we are reaching more than 5,000 users now. We've incorporated more countries in Europe, we have more than 250 mayoral officials that are working with us and many volunteers who are helping us to map where all of these information parking spots are available. We've been featured in several different media and we've also had the backing of the Fundación ONCE and we're working with several different organizations here in Spain and we've also been awarded or recognized by different organizations such as the Zero Project and we've also received some international attention. We finance the initiative through providing consultancy services and raising awareness on the different issues so we work from an end to end with all the different actors and we help to provide consultancy on the regulation as well of these parking spaces. We also sell annual subscriptions for our IT solutions and so.
What we want to do in the future? Is to include voice command and we also want to provide more information so that we can see in real time the availability not just of on-street parking but also the private off street parking that might be available to people with reduced mobility. We also want to increase of course the number of beneficiaries and continue to expand our presence throughout all of the European countries. And I want to leave you with sort of a final thought one of the things that we're looking to do is to make that paradigm shift from being a smart city which we find a bit obsolete becoming a smart human city where the person is the focus rather than the city, because why should the user also have to have all be the one that provides the information? They should be the focus of receiving all that information. I leave you here with my contact details if you'd like to learn anything more about the project. Thank you very much.
Thank you so much to all the speakers and now we are going to start with the panel and the Q&A session. We are going to start with Pablo. I had some very specific questions for you. The first question: do you think it's possible to replicate that learning methodology of La Mesita to the teaching of a specific knowledge such as financial education but for down syndrome adults? and the second question is how we can bring this technology to different educational systems around the world considering the different cultural particularities, social and cultural context family context the availability of support systems for children? how do you think or how do you see this in terms of a possibility to expand these to other countries with different characteristics? Thank you so much Ricardo. About the first one, we have to consider replicating this to work with people who are older we have been focused in children mainly and this part of, we have to think that now they are children, and, in the future, they will be adults and they will have to continue with a type of special support and mainly these supports that will allow them to be more independent and a better quality of life. So, the idea of creating a replica or a copy for people who are older we've been thinking about that because we want to accompany them in their transition to and out of life and also, we have been developing other support strategies not only through La Mesita and also the virtual desk but also, we consider the difficulties adults have to access people the information barrier from the limitations in the development of the reading process and also the work with easy text or easy readings this adaptation is something that we also are doing in Latinamerica with the methodology of easy reading. And something that we have also worked is the multimodality for the writing part the multimodality is something that we can empower, we can use to empower the access to information. When we think about
replicating these in other contexts and in other countries first we have to have a very flexible tool that will allow you to change contents so they are more adequate in social and cultural terms and also, we can think of offline elements and not only that we use the app, but we can accompany them with the methodology. Thank you, Pablo that was great, thank you for the time, for the limited amount of time that we have I think you have summarized everything well. We are going to continue with next questions for Claudiu in this case.
Claudiu, I wanted to ask you this first: do you have a special program for people with low-income or scarce resources they may have access to Munevo drive? And the second question is do you think it's possible in a sustainable way to provide this augmented reality in your system in order to improve this user experience and if so, do you think this would be a first situation of accessibility as an example of accessibility for the Metaverse? Thank you very much Ricardo for these questions, especially the last one. I’ll try to keep it short but let's start with the first one. So, we already managed to get the solution integrated into different healthcare systems that should be around about seven countries right now in Europe that already are available to get 100 reimbursed and that is also always our goal, so we always try to work together with the healthcare insurances for the different like systems that allow this to be reimbursed and then also trying to like bring together like yeah looking at you know developing countries as well to see how we can like integrate it as there which is a bit more challenging I have to say so this is something that we hope that also with the time the healthcare systems will also evolve more and also our solutions will become cheaper at some point so that it will be much more affordable for people with low income. Now maybe to the second question so this is something very interesting. Our solution right now is not using the AR principles we did test with you know AR glasses, the challenge there was always that we need to also look at the comfortability of the user so our users are wearing the glasses yeah, AR glasses right now are not very light they're a bit heavy but I’m sure that also this technology will evolve and will become easier to use and so on and then I think yes, we would love to be there at the forefront because I think if we develop something such as you know Metaverse technologies and things like that we should always develop it also with people in mind that oftentimes get overlooked when it comes to these technologies so we would love to be there. They are very certain from my point of view. We are going to
talk to or start with Carlo with the last questions. Carlo have you considered in spreading the model of park for this to other regions such as Latinamerica, Africa, Asia and etc.? and considering these do you think the cultural differences the social differences may facilitate or stop this implantation or these trying to 43:12 install Park4Dis in these regions. It's an excellent question. About the first question, I can tell you that Park4Dis is created due to our European recommendation from 1998 in which they took different decisions and the first one was to standardize the European card and in second place the fact of allowing all disabled people of the 28 member states in the past now 27 because the UK is no longer part of the European Union of allocating a number of spots that are reserved and they may park in any place where they wouldn't interrupt the circulation but that's a basic concept that first, was a unified card and it makes that the nature of this Park4Dis project is a European project. Having said that, of course, we are in contact with countries such as Chile in order to study the implementation of these guidelines in other countries this would be a study from the association that has this knowledge we have to do this gap analysis in order to understand how to implement this, because the basic concepts are the same: the card, whether it it's it says our European standard we have to comply this with this format and the fraud with the card when another person uses that we have a patented solution for these and we may export this to other countries.
Second, this is a very interesting question. Of course, there are differences and there are differences in other continents, but also in the same European continent there are a lot of cultural differences for example between a Nordic and a Latin country and it you would be surprised that to hear that in Spain where we started there is a great difference between towns and also, we have divided them into a small medium and big cities continuing the following the standard of the Statistics Institute of Spain it's different to have an urban city and a tourist destination they have different connotations, but we have detected those differences between the modals and an African country an Asian country a European country also, they have different connotations or differences and I’m not concerned about technology as you mentioned it's more about the awareness the consciousness of how to involve people how to talk to people they involve the actors that are private and public that would be a very interesting work. Excellent thank you, Carlo. And while you were talking about this I was thinking
on the possible synergies that we could have and when we talk about the augmented reality between your app and what Claudiu has been doing in this case because the target is quite similar it can be the same in many cases when identifying where the places or the spots are the in-context information to improve the user experience. Thank you so much for the answers to my questions, I think they give us a lot of information, valuable information, very interesting for the audience. And now that we're going to close the session this panel. Before we finish, before we go home, I wanted to ask you if you could offer the audience a reflection, a very short reflection, an idea in just a few words that you want the audience to keep in their mind, something that is relevant that you want as a summary very brief. We're going to start first with Pablo. I would say that when we develop all this work that we've been doing it has to be focused on the rights and mainly on justice with people I think that's a great contribution that we can do from our fields: justice and rights.
Thank you so much Pablo, I think that is a very good reflection very important reflection. Claudiu Thank you very much for all the questions and the answers. So it's really interesting and I think mine would be more call to action and I think I would say that let's try to develop and design more inclusively and take into account every person because in the end we've seen now how it can not only benefit these persons but the greater like communities and all of humanity in the end. So that would be my call to action to everyone. Thank you so much, Claudiu, that was excellent. And now, Carlo. I have two reflections yes, I’ll give I’ll share with you my reflection to at the end of course.
First reflection it's something that I’ve talked uh already which is the concept of our smart city because a smart city and a smart tourist destination is used but that's not inclusive if they are not totally accessible. For me it's very important we have to consider the user not the city and that has to be transversal and also something that I use in the in the signature of my emails “I do not have a disability; I have different ability”. I think that's my phrase that's my sentence and that can be applied to any type of disability but also for the elderly and other groups of people. Thank you so much. I think, I wanted to contribute with the last reflection using what we usually say “nothing for us without us” with which means that for the development for the design of all these apps of all these technologies that are going to try to improve the quality of life of people with disability and then they also improve the quality of life of much more people but the quality of life the experience of people with disabilities, elderly people, we always have to include these people in the design from the design phase we have to incorporate that knowledge of the people we have to incorporate or include their opinions their needs their complaints, the problems, they experience, at the moment of designing these solutions so we do not have to design something and then change it, or we have to fix it later because we haven't included the needs and the preferences of the audience this is addressed. So, to summarize this very briefly we have seen this app that Pablo has shown us mainly addressed for children with reading comprehension and problems especially for down syndrome children that have demonstrated they can improve their capacity for reading.
And also, we have seen a very innovative technology from Claudiu steam for people with reduced mobility based on the movement of the head that help people that have very reduced movement in their hands, so they don't have to use a joystick when handling their electrical wheelchair. And also, we have seen an app that Carlo has presented in order to facilitate the experience of finding a parking spot and booking that for people with reduced mobility in urban areas that we know it's something that we have seen it's something that we see on a daily basis that need a solution. And now we see the how useful these apps are or these solutions are in order to solve daily life problems and now we have to consider how to scale this in different parts of the world in different contexts so a lot of people can use and receive a benefit of these type of applications. Now we are going to finish our panel. We want to thank Fundación Descúbreme and Zero Project, it's been a pleasure for me to moderate this panel it's been a great learning experience and we want you all to continue in the next with the next panel or the next edition of Zero Project and all my regards to you you