Destiny 2 Lore - Two Truths, Two Lies... The Altar of Reflection, is Oryx returning in Witch Queen?
greetings guardians my name is by fear so i wanted to go ahead and touch on a few bits and pieces of law that everyone has been talking about recently and yes it is law surrounding the altar of reflection and one particular note that is told to us through it this is one of the best storytelling devices in all of which queen and frankly it alone is something bungie should be applauded for because of the mechanics surrounding it and the way it weaves into the story so elegantly with the simple idea of allowing us to better understand savithoon you'll notice that there's no spoiler warning here that's because this video is releasing a week after the launch of witchqueen this channel will now start openly discussing spoilers unless it's around the raid which we'll be holding off on until the next reset aka next tuesday so be ready for that we have a lot to discuss and now the gloves are coming off so if we're going to jump into the law surrounding the altar of reflection we should probably just start with this note yes we're going to address the two truths and two lies situation but first we need to actually understand how the altar of reflection works and in order to do that we need to understand deep sight so let's start with all that when we get onto savithoon's ship called the lure in the first campaign mission we were able to pick up this strange piece of pyramid tech when we took it back to the relic on mars we were able to reforge it into a weapon known as the enigma this happened because of an ability that the relic awoke within us an ability tied to the darkness known as the deep sight you obviously use it a lot in the campaign of witch queen but you might have all missed something of the key points of how it works so let's go ahead and just really quickly explain this thanks to some of the investigations on the investigation board back in the enclave we were able to figure out how deepside works somewhat and we figured out that deep sight is an ability that is based in memory and time distortion you can see this clearly in two ways firstly remember at the very start of the campaign when we go out onto the deserts and see portions of mars from the past that's due to the darkness distortions in the area which give off the same energy as the relic and the enigma this darkness energy is filled with temporal distortions that basically show us visions of the past now think to when you activate a deep sight path in the throne world when you do that and platforms appear or disappear it is showing what things were like in the past and is allowing you to interact with that past version of things this is how you're able to access certain parts of the throne world and it makes sense consider that savathun tore down her throne world which was previously made of darkness and made a new one on top of it that was more fitting to the fixtures of the light and with all of that said certain parts of the darkness we're always going to have traces underneath and that means that we're going to see moments at which deep sight reveals these strange parts and pieces we can explore within the throne world those are our two examples this is how deep side works when certain objects or even individuals are concerned the visions of the past that you see manifest more strongly on moments of memory that leave behind a potent psychic trace using this we can use deep site in appropriate locations and with appropriate items to peer into memories of a subject that holds sufficient psychic resonance that psychic resonance has to be attached to an appropriate object we know this through the law book which i'm not going to go ahead and read today i'm going to read that in the next one probably but yeah just do know that it does expand on all of this a lot for the time being essentially as long as you have an item that is relevant to a certain character as long as there is a memory attached and associated with that item you will be able to take it to a place like the relic or the altar of reflection and you will be able to discover what was leaving that psychic resonance that psychic implant of memory and when you do that you will then be able to view that memory this means that certain beings will inadvertently leave behind clues as to what's been going on allowing us to investigate and in some instances it actually means that clues can be manually left behind for us that is what has been happening a lot with savithoon it is in fact the entire reason why we were led to the altar of reflection through proxy and various strange moments in the campaign in the first place this was all part of her plan anyway the altar of reflection is specifically a place within the throne world where all of the deep site's connections and power can be used to view these psychic imprints and again it all works out with savathun's plan you see she knew that if she took the light and was chosen to be resurrected as a light bearer she would be without any of her memories and so she devised a plan to get her memories back using the power of the deep sight and her clever manipulations of us in this process we would have the enigma delivered to us thanks to savathun who would graciously allow us to take the weapon straight from her ship the lure knowing that we would then be able to craft this into the enigma and knowing that our powers of deep sight would be awakened with this we would then investigate savathun's past within her own throne world something very convenient for her seeing that she would be able to view all of the memories that we also saw all of her memories and thus she would be able to remember her past life something that no guardian has been able to do with such clarity before except perhaps for crow it does make me wonder if perhaps the deep sight was the ability that savathun used in order to show crow his past life as aldrin solve if so this might explain a few things here and there and it would make sense that she's had access to the deep side before given that she has close ties to darkness in the process of understanding both the enigma and the altar of reflection a little bit more we're given the opportunity to investigate further this is all after the campaign has concluded so as a result we venture to the rupture where an opening to the altar of reflection can be found from here we greeted with the all too familiar voice of the witch queen she's telling us something intriguing take a listen to this it was always a possibility that your cunning would defeat mine that you would win and i would lose and so i knew i would need a way to reach you even after death to set the record straight i couldn't leave so many mysteries still unsolved in these hallways my memory is on here i left you all the answers you crave bring your curiosities to me me tell you some stories servathoon does not live not until her ghosty maru has a chance and a good enough reason to revive her but the witch queen was always one to leave contingencies behind after all she is the hive god of cunning and there is no way in which she wouldn't leave herself a hand to play that was at least somewhat advantageous to her cause i think it's fair to ask a question as to whether this information is trustworthy and for the moment even with the notes made in the law book that all of the memories themselves are credible i personally don't know if we can trust all the information we obtain from the altar and savathun's memories they at worst might be valuable but at best they might be credible and as a result we're going to go ahead and talk about everything that savathun tells us from the altar of reflection after her death first we examine the glaive and the technology from which it was crafted savathun has this to say the children of the witness wage a war it spans centuries and galaxies they see the fall of thousands of civilizations the silencing of millions of thoughts in the mind of one of these warriors lives the memory of an ancient weapon a blade that cuts with the shining edge of beautiful terrible logic through a game of riddles i steal this memory for myself i make the weapon mine but i do not keep it i use it as a lure i already explained savathun's plan but it's revealed to us in a little more detail there she knew that this weapon a powerful weapon was a lure for a guardian in particular and she knew that a guardian capable of infiltrating her ship and her throne world would ultimately be able to reach all of the different clues of memory that savathun needed them to reach in order to regain all of her memories imaru in the front-facing part of things was putting up a valiant effort to put on a face that would show aggressively something that would help to hide the witch queen's illusion savathun wanted us there in the throne world she wanted us to gather the various items that she had hidden whether it was segura's ghost shell or the tablets of ruin or even the crystal shard that was lodged within her leg something that she had on her when she was eventually turned to the light after her death this is something that savathun very much planned out for the most part this is a moment at which we need to consider very carefully the cunning of the witch queen once again seriously planning all of this out understanding the deep mechanics and not only anticipating that we would need to be drawn into a trap like this with a false sense of security but also committing imaru to essentially run counter to that operation is quite something a significant logistical feat and perhaps more importantly something that is completely appropriate for savvathoon but now we come to some more revelations and it's here that i think we need to point something out i believe that the items we can scan or analyze at the altar of reflection will be changed every week and the reason i say this is because we start this week with the tablets of ruin something that we can investigate four times before the altar of reflection is done with us and spits us back out and this is something that's really quite important to acknowledge because ultimately this means that we have more to hear from the altars of reflection and also there is more knowledge to be gleaned from savathun she's left these tidbits behind specifically for us and whether that's to our detriment or as she says to set the record straight i think it's important to hear these so let's go ahead and jump into the one that everyone has been talking about when you first investigate the tablets of ruin you hear this shall we play a game two lies two truths mercury io and titan are in my care the witness returned mars to your solar system the power to move worlds will soon be yours the taken king will rise again you guardians are so clever tell me what is true and what is false now before we go ahead and talk a little bit more about which of these lies and which of these is truth i want to go ahead and take into account all the things that are said here at the altar of reflection regarding the tablets of ruin and everything that's attached to that memory it is important and it does provide some of the answers so here are the second third and fourth recordings from the alter of reflection it was thrilling to find a riddle that orcs had missed but of course his cunning could never defeat mine do you know the last time i spoke with my brother it was just before you killed him i told him he would die and he said i am always glad to die i know what you're wondering why did mars reappear the witness stole your planets and wounds with a power from the deep the power to move worlds from one place to another so why has mars returned while the others are still absent and where are your lost friends i asked you before why did mars return this is the truth the witness never took mars i did the witness wished to take it yes but i acted first i wanted to protect it just as i wanted to protect your traveler and when it was safe i returned it to you as for the others well i suppose you should have thought twice before killing me so first of all i think we should all know that even in death there are reasons for savathun to lie so take everything again that she says with a pinch of salt a sizeable one at that including the series of things about two lies and two truths to unpack that it could all be misdirection and ultimately there might not be any point as to speculating what is and isn't true but for the sake of such speculation and what it might do to expand our potential knowledge base let's go ahead and unpack things it's unwise to take the witch queen at her word but maybe this is a moment at which we don't need to worry so much now that she's dead maybe let's see if those words come back to bite me anyway let's go to that first thing statement by statement we'll roll on firstly we had the statement mercury io and titan are in my care if we're to believe what savathune states later on then this first statement is potentially true savathun implies that she could have returned these other worlds to us given that she was the one who had stolen them away using the power of the deep now that she is dead it's something that she implies she can't do the sentence essentially bemoans the fact that she can't do this because of the fact that we killed her secondly the witness returned mars to your solar system if were to believe seven again then this is false according to her own direct testimony and would make some sense given the appearance of the relic which she could have placed as a means of helping us awaken our deep sight the links that the relic site might have to the creation via the witness are something poorly explored and it's not fair to say that the witness absolutely did create this relic site it's really not clear although it is something that we have to consider given that it's an artifact of darkness so don't count this falsehood as definitive simply remember that tentatively we can call this falsehood if savathun is being honest with us thirdly and fourthly the power to move worlds will soon be yours and the taken king shall rise again these two are up for debate now the final of these statements about oryx coming back is going to seriously have people up in arms with a degree of joy given the great degree of love for oryx's character in destiny's community however i'm gonna go ahead and say that i don't know definitively what to make of this one you see oryx is probably returning to the game given that bungie has said that there'll be another destiny one classic raid coming to d2 out of the destiny content vault this is supposed to be a themed raid that fits the manner of the expansion at the time which is witch queen of course and they've also stated that the other hive raid crota's end is probably a little bit too small and closer to a dungeon for players to consider it a raid at this point so unless all of a sudden the season that this arrives with turns out to be a massive siever-esque season where it turns out that the darkness was sifu all along i think it's fair to say that oryx will be returning as a raid boss in the newly revamped king's fall however however something key to note about this is bungie's approach to the vault of glass and many of the returning strikes which is this they see strikes and raids as moments frozen in time and if i'm remembering that quote correctly this also means that the context of these strikes being brought back is to fit with the theme of the current times and is not to imply that those activities are being conducted at the time of that season this is one of those reasons why we still have strikes in the game which have k-6 in them which i mean he's been dead for years now so you know that sucks but the whole point is you still also have this same logic being applied to moments like the devil's lair and sabre 2 strikes that have been brought back with unedited dialogue in fact there is an exception to this rule but it's an exception that proves the rule and that exception is navota the new stand-in for omnigul which was a destiny 1 strike which has been converted into a new and somewhat revamped destiny 2 strike and the reason for this is purely because of the fact that it ties into the new light quest for destiny 2. so as a result you're looking at something completely different i think it's worth saying that this one therefore is up in the air and we shouldn't be sure if this is a lie or if this is bungie hinting with savathun's words here to a return of the king's full raid it could alternatively be some kind of reference to somehow someone trying to bring oryx back though how you'd manage that i have no idea the old rituals that were used in the books of sorrow probably don't work on a seven-year-old crystallized corpse that's now floating somewhere in the depths of saturn at this point and furthermore i don't think that you can resurrect oryx without his worm and there's the question of what happens when you have the touch of malice in the picture it's really not clear if that's something that affects this now as for the other statement the power to move worlds will soon be yours this is a far more fascinating statement in my opinion this is knowledge stolen from the deep by savifoon this ability to move worlds and if we're going to learn this at some point it represents a significant improvement in our degrees of power we have gone from being paracausal and capable of changing the scape and scope of a battlefield to paracorsal to a degree that allows us to move worlds literally this would be a lethal leg up on the witness and it might even be a way that we could start to approach their level of power the way that this all works and the links between the witness and the past as revealed through deep sight makes me wonder if this is a hint to something makes me wonder if the power of the deep sight and this ability to move worlds is in fact the building blocks of a new darkness subclass in the future one that is based around the distortion of time and gravity one that we might eventually acquire in either fall or in the final shape that is all to be seen and it's very much not clear if that's the case overall however this means that we still can't pin the tail on whether this one is true or false so for the time being that is left ambiguous overall the altar of reflection is fascinating and there's a whole lot of law entries out there within an entire law book that we're going to be covering with them as time goes on just so you know i'm almost certain that the altar is not something that we'll be visiting just one more time i think we're going to be visiting the altar at least two more times and from there we have amazing story details that we can extrapolate i for one really would like to see what happens more with segura's ghost i would love to see if there's anything more to learn from the worm familiar and i would love to see if the crystal shard has something more than it can yield although the original indication from the law book thus far sort of says that that's probably not the case either way thank you so much for watching and i really hope you enjoyed this video if you did go ahead and leave a like and if you really want more destiny content go ahead and hit subscribe and the email notifications next to the subscribe button it's the bell remember of course however that your viewership as always is quite enough for me and that in the meantime my name has been my name is bife dasia arastra i'll see you star side you
2022-03-05 09:05
