Peter Webb - Bet Angel - World Cup Russia 2018 mega video
So. I don't know if you're aware or not but apparently, there is a big football tournament, that. Is about to, start and, you. May have seen in the press I don't know there hasn't been that much coverage if it has there but, putting, the joking aside yes, it's the World Cup it's absolutely huge and it's, a great opportunity if you're a bet, fair trader and, I know there been lots videos and articles done, but, what I wanted to do for you is to appraise, and show, you what's happened in. Previous pod cups to give you a steer on what I think will happen in. This world anyhow. Let's, have a look at, those, statistics. Please. Like and comment on the video below that. Will allow me to produce better, quality videos and more of them in the future, so, my first World Cup was in 1978. And, when. You look, at, each. World Cup you always have a memory and I think you can summarize most, World Cups with one, word so 78, for me was, Gamal England. Didn't play, Scotland. Did an Archie Gemmill scored that wonderful goal against, the Dutch 1992. Would, be keegan, mr sitter against spain. 1986. The, hand of god so that would have to be Maradona. 1990. Gaza. 94. I think, the word would have to be absent, because England, weren't, there in 1994. But. And, in 98 we've got Owen it's going out wonderful goal against, Argentina, but all of my memories of, the, World Cup are punctuated, by sort, of specific. Moments, that that occur. 2006. Was. Joe Cole, scoring. Against Sweden I remember, it so well because. We. Were in a pub the ball came out of this Swedish, box and, everybody just went shoot and, he did for once in his life somebody shot and it flew in the back of the name. 2010. Vuvuzela. You. Can bring it all these memories come flooding back whenever you look at it each individual, tournament and of course we. Look at the last tournament in 2014. And, there. Are still three things fresh in one memory from 2014. One. Was, Suarez. Bite. Shalini, and if. I remember so well because, Belfort for. Once had a sense of humor and they actually put and changed. Their logo, immediately. After the incidents which I thought was quite funny, but. Also when, you look at. The. World Cup. Especially. 2014, I mean 7 1/2 Germany was. The, most remarkable match I think I've ever seen because, everybody, thought that Brazil were geared up and we're gonna win the World Cup and.
Excuse. The pun but Germany. Absolutely Mullard them and, so. Wonder why that expression comes home I'm gonna have to google that now and figure out exactly what that is but, it, was pretty remarkable, and, I just remember watching that how much completely. Open mouthed it was just I've, never seen such a complete. And utter humiliation, of a team it was incredible, you, also get memes that come out of the World Cup so in 2014. It was things, that Tim Howard safe that. Was absolutely hilarious and you, know I've forgotten a prior World Cups exactly. You. Know some of those moments from there but generally speaking it's, defined by a particular moment so of course you know I'm really looking forward to seeing what, that particular moment will be will, it be, Harry. Kane lifting, the, World Cup with. A unexpected. England win we. Can we can but hope can we and it. Looks like we're not going to be able to see the World Cup in the UK, for, a very long time so we're talking 2030. 2034. Could. Be the earliest we could ever see the, World, Cup come to the UK so I think in 2026. I'm gonna be heading off to the us/mexico. And so on to watch it over there because. It's one of the things that I still haven't managed. To do that I really think that I need to do any annelids Park all of that I don't know why I'm rambling about it was it just popped into my head when. I was thinking about previous. World Cups and I'm generally, getting overexcited, only. To be laid down within. 10 days or so so, yeah I apologize to that but I do you know I it's just it punctuates, my life those. Particular moments and this. Year will will, no doubt do the same as well hopefully for the right reasons, but. From a trading perspective, one of the problems that we have is that there aren't actually. That many, World Cups that have taken place within. The the. Sports trading, universe, so far so, 2006. 2010. And 2014. I've, got data on all three because I've been around for all three and. Some. Common, themes sort of tend to run through them and things, that I've seen the problem is because we've got such a small sample size you can't, really. Believe. If, you're a statistician that you can extrapolate, trends, from there but there are things. That seem to happen so. I'll. Give you my opinion on the, way this stuff happens and what I think is the reason behind it because it's important, to not make up those. Connections, and it's important to have some logic that runs through but. The world the first stack that I'm going to throw at you is that the world cup is absolutely. Immense. It's huge it's absolutely, massive and you. Would have known that already but you wouldn't have known the number so how much do you think was turned over on the, World Cup in 2014 what, was the total matched bet to turn over for all World Cup markets in. 2014. The. Total is. 3.3. Billion. So. It is very. Very big, and, that. Means that the volume will be big on an individual, basis, and. You. Know there will be lots. Of money sloshing around all of the markets so it's almost certain that you'll find a market that you like that you can trade that's liquid enough to do interesting things with but. As with a lot of things if you're used to trading domestic. Football and then suddenly you turn up with a World Cup it's gonna feel very different it's like looking. At a linked field on a Tuesday. Evening in the summer and then comparing it to a Royal Ascot if you're into racing they, are very different and they behave slightly different as well so things that I can do on. Domestic, football I can't, do in the World Cup but there are things you can do in the World Cup they can't do one domestic football but it's all gear around volume, volatility. In the way that the markets behave and there, are two different sort of general. Approaches, I think in terms of the way that you should look at these particular markets because they do behave differently, I've. Got some notes here but if, we look at the group stages in, 2014. Each, match before. The match started, two turned over about six million, now. Obviously he had, had the in plate Otis on there we'll have a look at those in a second in.
The Quarters it was about eight to. Nine million, the. Semi-final, was about nine million and. In the final. Or. The semi-final, between Brazil and Germany because Brazil what the host country was, twelve and a half million before, the match had started, and then, the final was about twenty million, so. That gives you an idea of how the market, sort of scaled up and goes from there the biggest group, game. It's. Not a trick question this, but have it have a guess which match was the biggest group game of 2014 you probably won't even remember the fixtures so, I'll narrow, the focus for you even more which. Country. Who, was playing in a group match had the most amount of money matched. Before the, match had actually started have. A guess think, of one of the countries in the. World Cup in 2014. And. Then say yeah that would have been the match that had the biggest amount matched. It. Was England V Italy so, one of the themes that you find is that, typically. And. And it is slightly unusual but. Sort of you, know, I suspect, that this is the reason but, if you look at the European teams the big nations, like Portugal Spain Germany, and, particularly. Big betting countries, like the UK then, what you'll actually find, is that. They. Tend to attract most of the volume so if you actually look at, I'm. Pretty sure I've got a graphic. Of it if you actually look it's ranking, the amount of money it was matched to play a team and then, you plot the group stages and, the semi-final, and you know where they gots to within the competition, you'll find some of those European teams towards the top of that list and if you look at the bottom of that list its countries here in different time zones who don't, have that much betting activity, don't have betting age changes and so on which sort of makes sense really so, it tells you immediately that, you know the big big, matches are going to be later, on within. The tournament, but, also even. Earlier in the tournament the ones that will bubble to the top of the list would, be those big footballing, betting, nations, that sort of makes perfect sense really it doesn't have nothing you could probably work that out without looking at a spreadsheet but. There's confirmation for you're near that is definitely the case. The. Money tends to accrue. At peak viewing times as well so if you get an odd starting, time in the middle of the afternoon or late at night or something but. I can tend to affect liquidity, but, that early evening game especially if it's an England match will. Attract. An enormous, amount of liquidity into, the market now, I'm not going to trade on England matches I'm a trade pre off but. I'm not going to trade in, play simply because, I'll. Properly you know I want to enjoy I'm gonna have some people around we can have some beer we're gonna watch the match we're gonna moan, like anything, and then celebrate a glorious victory, on. Penalties, not but. Yeah. So I'm not going to get involved in it from that particular perspective you know I would happily, sacrifice. You. Know watch here a little bit of money to be able to watch England in, fact it would have been nice perhaps to go to Russia I've got some friends there going, but, such is life that's you know that that's the some of the sacrifices you have to make I will get the opportunity at some point from pretty sure of that so. Yeah England matches, and. Peak. Viewing times and where, you get multiple, matches going off at the same time liquidity, just gets thinned out of it so you can have to pick and choose your targets carefully there so if you've got many matches you, know at, or around the same time then. The, liquidity, is going to thin the money will get spread across multiple markets you don't have to focus on the one as. Details, before on this particular video, so. Yeah pre offer you tends to get some very big. Markets. They tend to generate a lot. Of liquidity, I've, just been having a look at the first match that's about to take place and if you look at the ladder you'll, find there's lots of money stacked, above and below it and most, of the money's being traded in around a 3 tick range it's just bumping up or down and that's, typical, of the sort of markets the attend to get at the World Cup so. What I tend to do it work out is I shop a load of money into my account and. Then I'll actively trade pre off quite aggressively, by aggressively I mean use, lots of money, because. The market we always knows better than you so you can't attempt. To influence that however. If there's going to be a lot of activity, in the market then that or. Tend to make. The markets just that little bit more tradable, tradable. In the sense of if something, goes wrong the prices and can go flying away from you so a big. Difference in the World Cup is obviously, team news tends to be pretty limited so, what you tends to find because the markets are very stable as flat as a pancake for a long period of time unless if there's some unusual team use so, in 2014, we had an, injury to Neymar, and that, did cause the price to spike but generally, speaking, both.
Sides Are going to be putting out the best possible, teams and the, market will discount the. Chance of them winning fairly accurately and then, and there won't be much of a difference of opinion especially because it's on a neutral ground as well so you tend to find the predominant, characteristic as their market tends to be pretty flat tends to be pretty flat you, know explain why in a second if. You look at the amount of money that's traded. About. 40%. Of total money within the market is. Matched pre off and about sick d % in place so for marketers, 4, million pre. Off you can expect it to reach about 10 million by the end of the match the subject to what goes on within the match because if the match swing, was backwards and forwards between the two teams the volume will inevitably arise. So. Yeah there's quite a few different characteristics, there in terms of the. Overall numbers. That you expect to see at the World Cup the, biggest market is always match odds and then over, and unders and then correct, score and there's a whole plethora of other markets, behind there ok, one thing that's unusual. About, this year well there are several things are news about this year Betfair have multiple, Asian Handicap markets, they have goal-line markets, and, we also have, var. We have video refereeing so, one of the things. That you'll tends to see this time around is that, those. Markets may get liquidity, to the detriment of other markets, but. Var is, going, to throw in a whole. Gamut. Of, possible. Opportunities, I think the variability, with an individual, matches in play this year will be much higher than it has been before so I expect the in play volumes to be a bit higher but, my angle, on var would. Be, that. Some. Unexpected, things are going to happen so every time that the. Video ref is, called and the, ref draws, a rectangle, in the air, then. I'm going to be looking to, jump on the back of that because I think that people who, are trying to get ahead of the clock will probably jump on things really quickly and take, a little bit of time to adjust to var, so I'm willing to have a go that I'm going to throw a bit of money in there and see what happens and I think there'll be a few really, really odd. Prices. Matched when a decision is not absolutely, clear because the only way to beat. The, in play timer is to anticipate when. There's a strong attack and then if the goal goes in and the market suspends, and clears out and then, it goes to the video ref that's. Gonna be great fun I should imagine and, you would imagine it's going to happen a few times as well but very early on I think I'm going to be watching those markets, very very closely gathering, some data just, seeing how the market reacts when, those sort of situations develop but I think that will be a big opportunity but. There are plenty of opportunities within, there so. Let's talk about a few of those so. One of the things to note about the word cup is that obviously. The liquidity is, very very high but everybody has, limited. Banks. In which they can use and as, you know I will tend to switch sports depending upon where I think the best opportunity, is so. If, I see a football match. Lasting. 90 minutes what I actually see, a nine, horse. Races, ten minutes apart and I. Suggest, that you look. At things the same way in terms of where you want to pick and choose where your targets are and obviously you'll perform differently at different sports. So I expect to get something out of racing I may not get something out of football but. Mmm, I'll try and get until I know now. You see this occurring, within the market as well, so. When England are playing or when there's a big World Cup match on you see the liquidity drop off a bit on other, sports and you'd see the liquidity drop off a bit on racing so, yeah keep your eye even if you're not trading the World Cup on looking.
At What other sports events are in and around a particular, time because you may have a knock-on effect. On there however, a few years ago what, actually did was I mapped out to. See where the biggest drop-off is and the interesting thing is when there's a major football tournament, on you. Tend to see a drop-off on tennis now some, of that may be a bit coincidental in, terms of the timings, because typically you tend to see that but you actually see that football and tennis, tends. To negatively correlate. When. There are major tournaments, on which I thought was quite interesting I've, got a graph from it somewhere which I'll put up but you'll actually see that there's a correlation between or. A negative correlation between, turnover. On tennis and turnover, on football. So. Yeah you will notice the markets go a little bit we get especially during. The England games because a lot of people will take the focus off of certain markets, to, tune in to, whatever the big World Cup matches that's, currently taking place so. There are lots of opportunities within the World Cup and, we. Need to go, through them and talk about things, that will and won't work, but. The, thing that I always do during the World Cup is our trade pre off beat simply because as I just mentioned you know there's loads of acquitting, in the market as loads of money coming through so, it gives you the opportunity to effectively. Trade them and, why not do that if there's enough money there now there will be loads of money on either side of the we'll be surprised how quickly it does eat through and, typically that the risk is lower than you would have with traditional, matches because the market isn't going to move that much so every. World cup that I've traded so far I've done pretty well and I'm just trying to get some of those bigger totals. Done pre off and. The advantage, of doing that is when you get some bigger. Totals, pre off then you can just take the money in play and do whatever you like with it with very little risk so you throw abandon to the wind and just. Do some ridiculous. Things if she really wants to but. So you know it's nice to hold on to that money anyway so yeah I will trade most, of those markets, pre often it works pretty, well I've, done. It for many years now every time that there's a big championship, tournament. Around I will be, active and in the market that way although. Typically, I don't, tend to trade England why well. Because I'll be wanting to watch them and enjoy the experience, if you can call it that. So I'll probably have a few friends around a few beers and I. Will, probably forego, the opportunity, to trade England including pre off because. It's. You know a bit rude isn't it, to. Sit behind your desk and then just nip downstairs as the match kicks off who, knows maybe I will get the opportunity to do that we'll have to see but probably, not on this occasion but. I will have. A look at the England markets and there is a trend if you do want to trade them when, you're not going to be watching them in getting drunk don't trade drunk, in. It, when you look if we go back to that wonderful campaign, that we had in 2014 where we didn't win a single group, stage we had 2-1, loss to Italy, a 2-1 loss to Uruguay, and, we drew nil-nil with, Costa Rica you know what a fantastic, set of results that was, however. If you look at the pre off graphs if we look at their match against Italy, can. You see there's a pattern of activity here England were backed quite heavily before. The start of the match and then, if we flip this and look at the Uruguay. Odds. Or the England odds against, Uruguay I should say you. Can see pretty much the same thing happen there so it seems to be I mean if you're an England fan. Would. You back the, opponent, no would. You back to draw nobody's interest in the drawer so would you back England and what seems to be happening more often than not as people go oh you know what we could win this, and then the money goes down so it's interesting but England do predominantly, get backed and. That's. Something to look out for if you're gonna actively trade but, generally, you know you don't tend to see that much movement unless there's something unusual going on within. The market. Now. What about backing. A big.
Outsider And, trading. Them back into the market as they progress through the torment how does that work, well, the interesting thing is it actually works pretty badly, so. It's, just a word of warning basically. If. You're looking at a tournament like the World Cup had seeded so you, know all of the top teams they've. Lined. Them up across the group so they've got weak teams to play and then they can progress to the next round and so on so, that when they reach the final you've got two decent teams that people want to watch there'll. Be a big TV audience, the sponsors will be happy. FIFA. Will be happy for, obvious reasons and you. Know that the whole merry-go-round, continues, so, these tournaments are geared up to, granting. The prize to one of those top teams it's incredibly, rare for, a team to come from nowhere to, be able to get through and win that tournament, not, impossible, but, sort of a Leicester, scenario, is much harder in this, scenario because it's seeded so the idea is that as the seats progress they knock out all of the outsiders the way I would put it as seeding crushes, Outsiders it's the same as in tennis you have the two top players and opposite sides of the draw with the intention that they'll meet in the final and pretty, much the same thing happens at, the World Cup but. Obviously with football teams, so. Yeah you know say that team does manage to get through the, group stages then, they'll have a bigger, team to meet in the next round and an even bigger one in the next and then an even bigger one in the next so it could be that, Iceland. Get through the group stages where, they then meet Argentina, and Germany and Brazil, so. The, problem is the market will always discount that you'll always discount the fact that, they've. Got no chance and so, you may see the odd shortened, but probably not dramatically, it, does happen but it. Tends to not. Favor that type of strategy, now. If you add and, of course the eventual winner will probably. Come from that group of the top five to ten and. We'll be 100%, to the market eventually so can you see what's happening there every time each of those teams progresses, they become a bigger chunk of the entire mix that, did make really detailed notes on this in 2014, but it's so complicated to, explain the correlation and the way it works I don't. Think it's gonna fit in a video at all but. Just wanted to warn you about what happens in seated tournaments, so. When. You look at that that's, a, bit annoying however. In. Individual, matches they do tend to create value so. Okay. They may get out of the group stage and then get knocked out at the next level but, on, an individual basis when you look at teams, that, aren't expected, to do that while they do surprisingly. Well but, on an individual, match basis, if you look at the individual matches and you compare the, chance of them actually winning with it actually what happened, you tend to find those a bit of a discrepancy there, so, I've actually done a spreadsheet that. Actually has all of that stuff listed. And. It's too complicated to explain how these numbers have come about but basically it's. How much, they overall, underperformed. And if you look at the teams at the top of the list, they. Tend to be teams that, were. You, know bigger Outsiders, they tend to if you're, betting on them or. Trading on them during a match they tend to create the most amount of value and at the other end of the scale you'll. Find teams that are generally, considered to be higher rated, that, didn't perform as well and that seems to be a theme that runs through the World Cups I've seen this over, the three tournaments, that I've gathered. Data on so far and I suspect, that that's going to continue in this particular tournament pretty pretty, sure it will continue they'll be an outsider that will qualify, from the group stages, unexpectedly. But. That sort of brings us neatly onto the to qualify markets, now you. Tend to see with, what, I've just said, replicated. Within the two qualifier market so laying teams. Who are very very short odds to qualify very, often produces, good results, and. When. You look at it the way to look at the to qualify market, they, say group stages and you. Know it is a group stage where they're playing several, teams but. I guarantee you that the coaches of those smaller. Nations who aren't expected, to progress will be saying to their team or look you, know okay. Have to play each of these teams and the best ones go through but. You know if we get a result in this match, then, we only need a draw on the second one and perhaps we can pull it off in the third and then we're through so.
Their Mentality, will, be like that and they're, going to be viewing it and Ian undoubtedly, they'll be saying look it's not a group it's three knockout matches that's the way to approach this match so you can see how that would work and, that produces, some unexpected payoffs, in there to qualify market, now, I've, got a spreadsheet that I've got, on the to qualify market so I think we should probably just have a look at that and I'll show you what. Happened, in. 2014, but also look. At the video that I did in 2014 about 2010, and you'll be amazed at how similar the, two are and how, the data, between the two look, so similar as well anyhow let's have a quick look at that spreadsheet. So. If we're gonna look at this spreadsheet I should explain exactly, what you're looking at that would be helpful ordinate but. On the left-hand side here we have the minimum odds that were traded, in. The, two qualifier market, over certain groups and, on the right hand side we have the odds at which they started. To. Qualify at that particular group so for example in Group, A in 2014. We had Brazil went. Off at 109 or thereabouts and, you, can see that they qualified, because, they have a one above saying that they qualified, and. They. Traded at odds of 101 because they qualified they would definitely qualify and therefore the odds would eventually end up for 101 but. If we look at Croatia they were 2.4. To qualify so you can see the, market thought it was going to be Brazil and Croatia and, you. Can see Croatia traded, as low as 145. But. They're under, this column here which is 0 they. Didn't qualify so. You can see here Brazil and Mexico qualified. But, Croatia trading, at 145, did, not, so. If we go down this list here you can see Spain were, 1.3. To. Qualify and they. Reached a low of 112, and didn't. Go through in Group. C 109. 175. Group, D which. Was England's, group you, can see Costa Rica were, 15.5. To. Qualify they. Qualified. Italy. Were 151, to qualify, they didn't qualify England. Were evens to qualify they didn't qualify and, you, can see the trade it'll have of 139. So. Yeah. And. If we go down the theme sort of continues, here Ecuador. 1.4, they reached a low of and. The. Two favourites did qualify in that group two, favorites in Group F were. Argentina. And Bosnia. Herzegovina. I think they was, their proper name and that's World, Cup you. Can see here that Bosnia, traded at 137, but. Didn't qualify. Portugal. In Group G 148. Didn't qualify and. Their 1.7, to. Start Germany, did go through over state eventually won and then, we can see here that Russia, 1.3.
Traded, Our low at and their, 158, to start with and didn't, qualify as well so, it's interesting to see how often teams. Are very short odds don't. Qualify for. The next stage, at. The World Cup and, the. Interesting thing is this is. A, carbon copy if you look at the video I did in. 2014. About, the 2010 World Cup pretty. Similar as well. So. One of the things that permeates, these. Markets, is incentive to score I have done a separate video on incentive, score which if you do go. To youtube and type in betangel incentive to score you will find that but, there, is a huge incentive to score so the markets, are very very variable. Unexpected. Payoffs occur much more frequently than, you would expect because you're. Down to the last 15 minutes you, know what's happening in the other match and you've got to score a goal to, either draw to win or to change, the goal difference and you, will go off and do that because you're only 15, minutes away from. Abject. Failure or, becoming. Famous. Or a meme on the internet through that wonderful goalies call or something like that so, incentive to score is very high and teams and players will. Do, everything they can, apart from England well. I shouldn't say that of it maybe they did that in 20 2014. But maybe this year will be different this time it's different as they say but. Say yeah the incentive score is huge and therefore teams will will go all-out for that and. Also the minor teams will be much more likely to do that as well so, if you if you think about it you know the Garrow in a blaze of glory haven't tried everything, or perhaps they do get that goal they go through and then suddenly their national heroes it's. A much, much. Harder for. The big teams to be able to do that they do if, you look at the way it's geared up you. Would have seen this in previous videos that I've done it's, all about fear of loss, there's. Smaller teams that bigger odds have got nothing to lose if. They go out that's what was expected if they go through they will be absolute, heroes if. The. Bigger, team with, all of the star players that it's expected, to qualify slips up and concedes, a goal or makes a mistake or tries to get. An extra goal and causes. A problem at the other end of the pitch they won't, be heroes there'll be zeros and, we'll. Get a lot of flack for that so yeah think about it when, you're watching a match and, the. Staggered starts sometimes can help, improve this you know if there's something that's happening somewhere else that requires something to happen somewhere else that, can increase that incentive, and things, can go you know it. Won't happen in every match but if you persistently, follow, that strategy, of looking. For those opportunities then, overall you'll probably get a payoff so yeah, big, teams will suffer performance anxiety smaller. Teams won't have that at all and there'll be a massive incentive to score in.
A Number of different places and the staggered starts will very often, creates. Those incentives as well there. Was something, I captured, at, the last World Cup were saying well how could they qualify, and it was well if this team does that and if the fat team does this and this happens and that happens and if they do that then this Gavin's and this is the situation that it unfolds, sometimes. It can get quite complicated but a lot, of time it's quite simple and easy to understand how things. Will progress from there so yeah keep your eye off that and you tend to see that manifested, very well in the two qualifier market so that's a market I'm very interested in that's. The World Cup. So. Yeah there's a few trading ideas for you there and you. Know to summarize, some of those the reasons that I like the World Cup and I get excited about it is. Because, it's huge 3.3. Billion was traded in 2014. Massive. Liquidity, gives you scope to do many different strategies and some that you probably wouldn't, during, the domestic, season. There's. Highly, variable results, and, that's driven by the incentive, score incentive. To score is. Absolutely, immense at the World Cup and then teams will do anything, like it like for example biting. An. Opposing, defender, or saving. The ball with your hands, you. Know strange. Things happen and the. Thing about being highly variable is this year we have video refereeing so that's going to create, all. Sorts of variability it's going to be really interesting to see how that plays out teams. Suffer, from performance, anxiety that, can be. A problem, for teams as they progress through the tournament, or. At certain stages such as penalties but of course we also have penalties in the World Cup and they can be great, to trade as well if you've never traded this before I probably need to do a separate video on those the. Staggered timings in the way that there's an incentive to score or not score improves. The situation as well and, then when we look at England you get this classic herd mentality of, England's predominantly. Being backed in probably. Will happen again this year I'll, mention or talk about it on social, media on the forum when, we begin to see what sort of patterns develop this. Particular year but some of these things I'm expecting, to repeat I. Hate. To extrapolate trends, you know me I'd, hate to do that but there does seem to be a pattern of behavior we've only really had three tournaments, on. Betfair, on on betting exchange. World. Since. Since. They began, so, it's, difficult to say whether these are characteristics. That will remain forever but, I sort of suspect if you look at the detail behind some of these things that. That will probably be, the case and that's exactly, how I'm going to approach it anyway so if. You approach it in the same manner as me then we're both being the same boats together effectively so. Yeah looking forward to the woke up looking forwards to hurricane, lifting. That trophy, on, that final match and. And. Then I woke up but, so my hope whichever team is supporting and whatever you tries to do whatever you try and do with the World Cup and whether you choose to trade or just watch it I, they have a really good World, Cup. You.