Non-coding tech jobs - $100k+ Business Analyst role - Careers in Tech Episode 1

Non-coding tech jobs - $100k+ Business Analyst role - Careers in Tech Episode 1

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hey guys how you doing my name is tj and in  this video i'm excited to introduce my new   series called careers in tech where i'm going  to be interviewing people that work in a lot   of different roles within the tech industry now  learning to code and becoming a software engineer   is not the only way that you can transition  into the tech industry and get a good paying job   so in this first interview i'm gonna be sitting  down with my friend jay as she tells us about her   six figure business analyst job jay gets very  candid about her pay and also walks us through   different roles that she's had along the way and  about how much she's been paid as well but first   make sure to like and subscribe to my channel and  feel free to comment below any questions that you   have or just to show support hey jay how you doing  okay awesome yourself and kind of you know telling   us a bit about what you do yeah no problem so my  name is jay chapel i'm originally from houston   but currently residing in austin as a business  analyst uh right now i'm working for a startup   but i've worked for large companies medium-sized  companies this is actually like my first   year so jumping in the startup really yeah it's  a completely different experience but cool okay   that's awesome so i'm not sure if you know but my  first job in austin was as a business analyst oh   this should be really really interesting so yeah  tell us i i guess can you kind of tell us what you   actually do yeah so essentially like business  analysts it kind of depends on the company   and the challenges and the problems that they're  solving so like i've had certain roles where i'm   doing a lot of external analysis so we might  have a client come in they want they give us   their data they want to like find insights and  value in the data they give us but i can also   do that internally where our company is saying we  want to improve a process but we want to be like   data-driven so i look at the data find a way  to create a process and make it better but like   that data is my proof like hey this is  if we increase this number by this or   the pricing this way we might be able to have  like this much okay interesting so this you're   talking about data a lot yeah like it kind  of almost sounds like you're describing a   data in this type like what is the difference  there well see what i found in my career that when   i get business analyst roles it is also partially  operations versus like data animals you will work   with like data scientists data engineers and a lot  of them have more of like a technical background   versus business now it's kind of lives between  like non-tech tech that's so interesting so back   when i was working as a business analyst i was  dealing with more social gathering requirements   like oh the company wants to build this feature  right this is what this feature needs to be able   to do and this is what the users need to  actually be able to accomplish right so me   to me down in the requirements and you know doing  mockups wireframing handing that to the engineers   they build it and now we test those things to  make sure that you know that the goal that we   set out to achieve was around what they built  yeah i can see that so that's different it seems   different from what you're talking about yeah that  sounds more like oh actually in the next question   was it like a startup or was it it was a small  company okay then yeah that's what i was saying   it depends on the company company size so like  when i worked at larger companies what you used   to do sounds more like qa testing qa engineer  slash product manager where you're gathering   requirements and like wireframing i know how to  low fidelity like not really big on my friends   and my role is like analytics that's  what i do and i like might be some   business proposing business solutions and like  data visualization and stuff like that okay   so how did you get interested in this role anyways  so background i actually went to school thinking   i was gonna be pre-med okay yeah pharmacy  pre-everything yeah so uh then i took o-chem   organic chemistry i hated it i hated it so much  but i really liked um i was a human development   family science major and i really enjoyed like  the research the analysis and we took like   uh statistics and stuff like that i was  like oh like this is all i want to do   i don't want to be like just like working  on the hospital thing and you know and so when i graduated i had a job as like  a compliance analyst okay so still getting   like that research it was not super into  like uh data visualization but just like   analyzing problem solving thinking cool and then  uh being in austin the tech bubble like facebook   had only been there for maybe like a few years  like all these companies like oh what's this   like what's going on in the tech world there every  networking event was about to that's true and so   i ended up um a recruiter and i just gave him  emergency and i was like this is what i know   how to do but i'm interested in this and i end up  getting an interview for tech company and i didn't   get the job but i reached out to the recruiter  and i was like hey how can i gain this experience   that's an indicator right so even if you apply  for a role and you don't get that role try to   follow if you can and i know that hiring managers  don't always do a good job of getting back to you   yeah to give you feedback but you just but you  should still shoot your shot and try anyways   you know you never know sorry no but that's what  happened like i thought it was a like you know   the generic like hey do your background it's  like i'm just gonna take a chance and say like   hey how can i get this like background how can  i get this experience and that company ended   up having like same role but contractor  okay and so i i took the contractor role   and the whole time that i was there i had access  to like um i think at the time it was linda   learning but i think it's linkedin learning  now okay i would just stay behind and learn   any and everything that i could learn uh and  i think at the time i was interested in colors   i was like i was gonna do this free coding  thing and i was like i don't really like this   but i still had access to like the learning  tools and the people yeah and they knew like and so they kind of like well you should learn  this okay you should look at this so i go to   this youtube or like sign up for  this course yeah and six years later awesome so here i guess uh what what our common  miscon that people might have about what you do   that you've heard about versus what you actually  do yeah i think it's mostly just the misconception   of tech like everyone knows yeah a misconception  everyone knows that i work in tech so they're like   oh you know how to code like oh you can build me  a website oh you can i'm like i don't do that yeah   i can point you in the different direction for  that and uh but in my actual role i think that   business analyst is so broad that there's some  folks who think like oh you gather requirements   oh you like you're writing python and you're  using r and everything no but those type of roles   within business analysts so even when i'm applying  for a role i'm really looking at like okay is this   what i know how to do and what are these type  of problems like i know how to do this yeah   so yeah if you're interested in business analysts  like you really have to come through the job   researching and ask the right questions i see  to pretty much figure out what type of business   analysis is looking for wow well here can you  walk us through what a typical day in a life   is like for you as a business analyst yeah so  um like i said have operations have analysts   so i could get a request like hey jay we need you  to look at this data and build out a process to   improve i don't know incremental revenue  so what i'll do i'll go look at the data   i'll look at what our current revenue is and so  i'll do all the analytics stuff and once i have   a process the operations parts keep saying because  i'm creating the process documenting the process   and then making sure that people are trained on  like the changes that sounds like a lot of work   it is but it's not as bad because like the  cool thing about being a business analyst   and just working with data you kind of  given the freedom to like find insights   so you sit in you do queries okay we're not  doing a great job at tracking this if we were   then we could blow a lot and you just test out  the actual process okay and so that's what my   day-to-day will look like or it might  be can you like create a dashboard for   this client and like this is what they  want to see so i'll make like a dashboard   some business or data visualization tools  interesting are you are you using like a lot of   powerpoint keynote because i i know you mentioned  running some queries so are you using sql for that   or like what type of tools and skills do you think  that people in this role need to focus on sql   definitely just not even for business analysts but  once you start to learn sequels and build up like   being comfortable with writing queries and you get  like complex so many doors will open open for you   and then in terms of like database visualization  tools you have power bi tableau is really big   honestly once you learn tableau all the  rest of the moonlight makes sense um so   sql and tableau so far looker is another what's  up i think it's one of their competitors but very   very similar and then um if the job requires  writing confluence jira at lasting like that whole   bubble of like writing documentation and knowing  how to like put tables and links and stuff okay   so having good writing skills is important  in this world too as well yeah i would say   it's super important because business analyst  sits between tech and non-tech and so you   have to be able to communicate and so that can be  written and like i said the training part so like   okay you need to create a deck of powerpoint  google slides do you need to write out   documentation or do you need to actually like  train a group of folks on your new process so just   all around being a great communicator like in  terms of like hard skills outside sequel um and those are kind of really like the main two  yeah because like when you write in sql queries   you might use like maybe snowflake or your company  might have their own thing but once you get like   like your own tools yeah but once you know like  the syntax and you have a deep understanding   whatever they use you just look at it and  you're like okay this is how y'all write things   i know what this means so you also have to be a  quick learner because you are going to be forced   to learn on the dial to different tools yeah and  quick learner because when you take a new role   it's new data that you've never seen digging  through tables doing just random queries to see   like okay what lives in here and what doesn't  because if they ask me to improve a process   and we don't have the data then you have to go  talk to like the data analyst or data engineer and   say hey where is this and why are you captioning  this okay this is so interesting to me because i   i'm actually interested in this role this actually  sounds fun because you are basically consulting   based on data yeah like you are using data to help  drive the direction that the company needs to go   yeah you know oh that's actually kind of cool  about that because for me i'm just like building   stuff that's happening to me versus like actually  dictating like okay even though you guys want this   this is actually what the data is telling us  works etc yeah so wow what is the most exciting   or just the part that you enjoy about this role  the most i really love the problem song and i'm   a data geek you know a lot of what you just said  like i get to create processes like i get to say   this is what's gonna work i've looked i've been  living in this like database for two weeks ears   like my clothes here's all the information  and folks are like all right okay because   people can't really argue against you because  arguing against you is arguing against   their own data exactly and so with that like i  do work a lot with product teams and engineers   because like this is what the data says this is  what the tool i like i'm not going to design it   but this is what i think it should look like and  like this is what these this is what the tool   needs to like pull in like the data to do whatever  wow so you also help inform how engineering teams   build products yeah wow that's a lot  of power for just one person to have   it it is and that's what i'm saying like when you  interview for business analyst roles you want to   ask them like what problems or challenges like  are you gonna want me to solve yeah because if   it's not something interesting you're gonna hate  it so you have to know about the product you have   to know about the company you're like oh i'm  actually not interested in like even looking   at that data and like figuring out and it also  lets you know if the data is a mess so i was like   yeah yeah really really like have to access  this wow okay well here so this sounds this   sounds like a dream job so far even  even like for me i'm sitting here i guess what is the most challenging aspects of  you know of this role are just parts of this role   that aren't necessarily so exciting um it can  be challenging to like depending on the size of   the company so like this is my first like scent  and startup right and before you would throw out   a decision and then they'll go through all these  foods oh okay i don't know start a world is like   yeah so you could be presenting this to like the  ciara or ceo and stuff like that so that can be   challenging because you have to also take into  mind that this is their product and it's their   baby it might be their first startup it's  like you're proposing a decision and it's   not always what they would want it's not in line  with what bigness judy thought yeah and that can   be a bit intimidating this is like hey like  i know you're really going to build this but   we're not in a space to like do that because like  we don't have the data to promise us to use it   wow so that that's something that i had to get  comfortable with oh okay well uh interesting let's   kind of pivot a bit to if somebody was to  try to get into this role like what our   educational background that somebody used me to do okay but you don't really need like a technical  background i've worked with like old teachers   you know like sales folks and things like that  i think the most important stuff would be like   sql um writing being comfortable with like solving  problems um even presentations being comfortable   talking talking yeah so those are soft skills for  heart stools i would definitely say like sequel   in like tableau yeah a plus is like for me i don't  like coding but i've been in it enough to like be   able to read and translate so if i am working with  an engineer or a product manager like if they send   me code or like they're like doing a demo yeah  oh actually like i don't want it to work this way   so that's an advantage that i have and i would  encourage people even if you aren't interested in   coding like me it is helpful to at least do like  intros okay so like html css and like python or   art like just just do like a one-on-one like intro  just like basically do some kind of basic tutorial   to have some idea yeah because cause then that  opens you up to like knowing terminology so like   a lot of companies aren't even expecting you to  come in a program but like oh you're going to be   working with this product manager and then they're  going to be saying stuff okay i understand okay   you're going to write the script and it's gonna do  this okay i'm gonna do my part and like it makes   it there's no language period i'll say that in  terms of like programming language in the story   okay so yeah this is a interesting one can  you give us the average kind of like salary   expectations that somebody just getting  into this role can you can kind of expect   like ranges et cetera yeah i can be  transparent about like my journey   okay yeah because you know it's like sometimes  people are definitely like a bit more hey   i feel like we need to do a better job  at just being transparent so that people   don't get low balls but uh my journey  has been so like first analyst hundred dollars okay so like 50k man if  50k would have changed my life yeah yeah   but they're like 40 50. and then i jumped  to like mid 70s 80s okay and now like six   figures okay so it's definitely like lucrative  literally i think the median salary right now   for just like business analysts well in austin  it's like 76. okay which is goes a long way   so did you say average or or median median okay  okay oh and that's i think i just looked up like   generic business analyst so i think starting out  one could 56 depending on the company yeah 50 60   but if you're looking for a way to move into  six figures it's definitely possible wow okay   damn well yeah so thank you for all of  the information that you've actually like   given today uh so the funny things i  thought about this info would be helpful   you know to the people watching but it's been  very nice i'm sitting here like that also i'm   still trying to kind of figure out like how  to actually move forward in my own career   and this has been something that you've  actually opened up like writing to where   i might actually i'm interested actually yeah  so i'm a business males but technical business   analysts do exist and those are the folks that  have those technical students yeah so i don't know yeah we'll see so here uh do you have any shout  outs anything that you want the audience to know   about you about anything that you are like working  on you have new products or anything like that   yeah so right now i'm actually working on this uh  program called tech finisher and it's for folks   finisher okay folks that are like  me finessed their ransom tech   so i'm still working on that i'm also in grad  school so it's really like on the back burner   but it's going to be up and running at some point  um and then also for youtube folks in particular   i also like created and shared the networking  event for homecoming so we just get a bunch of   folks together the alumni and current students  and we network we help them with their resume   we connect them with resources on campus but also  like we know what it's like when you graduate yeah   even if you have a job or you don't have a job  a lot of us now are in a position of like help   or like have companies like hey like i wanna get  him to say hey i got a friend tj you know yeah   he does this and like you should reach out to him  or hey like the company i'm working for is hiring   let me see what i can you know do and figure  out so those are probably the main two things   and i mean i'm a resource okay um i'll give you  my linkedin or we can like find somewhere to put   it but i'm always open to like answering questions  and then like pivoting you in a way or like giving   you resources to help figure out your career okay  yeah so i will actually include all of the contact   information for you for a tech financer  not that that's no good uh yeah all of   that information will be included below so  stay tuned and that's it thank you so much   we appreciate you for for coming and blessing  us with all this information thank you

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