The Suspicious Case of the Reykjavik Confessions

The Suspicious Case of the Reykjavik Confessions

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This. Week on BuzzFeed himself we discussed the reykjavik confessions and icelandic case in which six people confess, to murders that police have no physical evidence ever occurred, this is a treat for me because. As. You, know yeah i went on a trip to Iceland, last year yeah I've heard about it it certainly is one of the many arrows in your anecdote, quiver a big one well I'm excited to tell you that perhaps the place that you deemed, heaven maybe, isn't so heavenly, stunning. This. Does yeah. Hot springs great stuff let's get into it on January. 26th. 1974. Booth moon Dare Anderson, a quiet, 18, year old laborer went, out drinking with some friends, they ended up in a dance hall and happen Arthur a town, just south of Reykjavik. Goof, moon Dare left the party in the early hours of the day and decided to walk home around. 2:00 a.m. two, of his friends saw, a good mood there on the road trying, to hitch a ride with another, man they did not recognize both. Men were clearly drunk and Guth moon there swayed, as he stumbled his way through the snow booth moon there never made it home, at the, time the, entire country, of Iceland's, population, was about two hundred and twenty thousand people for context that's five thousand, fewer people than lived in Reno Nevada, in 2010. Major, crimes were very very uncommon, they, didn't even have government. Bodies tasked, with finding missing, people after. A few weeks of searching and coming up empty the, volunteer, search parties ended, their hunt yeah, not a lot of crime they're not used to it still, I mean you should have some systems in place let me tell you something about Iceland. One morning we, woke up to, go on a beautiful kayak, trip, the woman who drove us to the kayak thing we were talking about just, the way things go there and she. Said you know we don't have a lot of crime here about, once a year we will do a murder and she made. And. I was like okay, I know you know you're not implying that the whole country gets, together and picks one person like the lottery and decides, to sacrifice, them. She. Said, we will do over there do a murder. Around, ten months after good moon there anderson disappeared. On november 19, 1974. A quiet, construction. Worker given their anderson, with no relation, to good moon there was watching TV with a friend at his home in kep Levesque the pair briefly left to go to the harbor cafe but Geffen there shortly returned, back, at home he received a phone call his. Wife goofed knee said governor, told the man on the other end of the call quote I've already. Come end quote. Followed by quote I'll come, and quote, GERD Fenner then drove his car into town parked, close to a cafe, left, his keys in the ignition exited. His vehicle and, was never, seen again, two, guys disappear, within the span of ten months they have the same last name no relation in a place where this is not common yes, so, we may have a bit of a crook on our hands, yeah maybe, turning around up the. Task force. To. Find the missing people another. Missing person, meant another search party of, volunteers, who, found no trace of Garin er this being the second disappearance, within the year detectives. Decided, it might be time to do a bit more sleuthing, the, first step for police, was to find out who called Garin er two teenagers, and a cafe employee described, a man they had seen place a call from a phone booth outside the cafe, from, these descriptions, the, police made a clay recreation. Of a man's face and began, showing it around kept, Levesque is a small town so, when no one could identify the man depict it in the police's, model, they assumed the man was from out of town the. Manager of a nightclub in nearby Reykjavik, was questioned, but released by, the following summer detectives, had no witnesses, and crucially, no, bodies, what they did have were rumors swirling around once, Ivar, see sales key so. This is a. Possible. Suspect. Based, off description, so instead of doing like a a police sketch they, did a yeah arts and crafts I got a little mr. Potato Head mr.. Potato Head here. Sy, VAR c sales key was a local petty criminal, with a penchant, for stealing things like alcohol candles. And checkbooks, he, sold drugs and, would tell his girlfriend. But let doctor about, his desire to commit, the quote perfect. Crime end quote, together, the two would forged checks using, airless, job as a telex, operator for Iceland's post and telecommunication.

Company Shortly after Geffen Nair went missing aired 'la and savart bought one-way tickets, to Copenhagen, with money they didn't bezel from Atlas job so, these are these these is like a Bonnie and Clyde situation, yeah, you. Know what actually. Now. That you bring this up I did. Go to Copenhagen. Right after Iceland, and it is a stunning. City. Wouldn't. Mind escaping there in. Denmark. Antlia, soon became pregnant and the couple moved back to Reykjavik, to have their baby in September 1975. In, order to support his new family, cybers, plan was, to smuggle cannabis. Into Iceland. Perhaps. Consequently, Ella, decided, the two should live apart. I'm. Gonna provide, for this family. Some, of that good good good, turn Iceland, into Greenland, baby. While. Police were still stymied, by the previous, year's two disappearances. They had been making progress on a case of some stolen money at the post and telecommunication. Company on December, 12 1975. Savar, was arrested, on suspicion, of embezzlement. Two, days later antlia. Was also taken into custody Ella. Initially, denied everything, authorities. Questioned, her and detained, her in solitary confinement, after. Seven days of grueling questioning. She confessed, to the post and telecommunication. Fraud as she, was preparing to be released, investigators. Showed Erika, a photo of Guth moon dirt intercept the first man to go missing, who, she recognized, from Reykjavik, they, had once shared a card together and had on another occasion ran into one another at a party, etna, told investigators. That she vaguely remembered, the night good moon there disappeared, she, had been at a nightclub without sy bar who she thought was in Denmark at the time when, she got home she immediately, fell, asleep though, she recalled a nightmare, in which she could hear sigh bars boys whispering, outside, her window. Sensing, the faintest, hint of a lead police, asked, her if it was possible she hadn't been dreaming, so instead. Of releasing her they'd been through Ella, back in solitary confinement, crook, Lord she admits to the embezzlement yeah and then they throw a Hail Mary they say here's a picture of goo moon there yeah hey you do crimes, you know. She. Remembers him she, has a nightmare that. Sigh bar who, is unaccounted, for is whispering, outside of her window the. Police then, say maybe, it wasn't a nightmare yeah, they then throw her back into solitary confinement two, birds one, stone as, they say that, is what they say little something I heard in Iceland.

Alone. Air club began to doubt her memories, she, thought quote is it possible, they killed someone in the apartment and I saw the whole thing and I can't remember, end quote, Ella, was questioned, for six hours on December, 20th, naming, sy bar and their friend Kristian Vitter as possible. Suspects, in booth moon dares disappearance. She also, mentioned, being perplexed, to come home On January 27th. 1974. The day after goof moon there disappeared, to find her bed sheet missing investigators. Drew, up a confession that said she saw cypher and three, others, carry the body of guthe Linder while wrapped in the missing bedsheet, antlia, signed it after being kept in solitary confinement, for days and being, threatened, to be kept there indefinitely all while, she had an 11, week old baby at home Eric, but herself was only 20 years old like. You put me in a room for. Three, straight days I'm. Starting, to already questioned my sense of reality yeah I needed. To talk to people the, next day cypher, who had been in solitary confinement this, whole time was, questioned, for 10 hours then, six hours the day after once, investigators, finally showed him airless confession, sy bar told investigators. He was involved along, with three friends Christian, who cypher had seen that adla had already named, Craig, V Runa and Albert, Kaun, so, he's in solitary he's, wondering what the hell's going on they're grilling, him for 16 hours and then, they show that his, you, know I guess former significant, other hasn't, a signed confession saying, this is what he did I think that's the last, draw right that breaks the camel's back and you may suspect if, he's. Thinking well if I confess to this maybe they'll just get me out of solitary but, if I implicate. Some other people maybe. Maybe that'll, spread. It out a bit exactly, the police had developed an unfortunate. Habit of during, their suspects, in solitary, confinement, anytime. They needed to solicit, a confession. In this criminal case they, arrested, the three men and threw them into solitary, eventually. The men all confessed, to playing roles in booth moon dares murder now, that they had extracted, confessions, for one disappearance, the investigators, wondered, was, it possible, that they could solve the second one - pretty. Much everyone I met in Iceland was so kind, and so polite I just. Imagined, the most polite people in the world doing this and being like well, we figured out that if you put them in that room you. Know they'd tell you. So. I guess, maybe we'll just keep doing that I would like to not think that's the case I would like to think that maybe the community is pressuring like this. Guy's running rampant they're killing, they killed two people that's twice the output in the last 20 years we got to do something and this. Is the answer they're they're doing result based investigative, techniques they're getting the signature they did their job in their head yeah that's how they're legitimizing, it which like. I said some people you, could you could understand that police. Went back to air club and asked, if it was possible the men they've gotten confessions, out of for good moon there's disappearance, could have also been involved in get winners as well antlia. Replied quote maybe, end quote. The police told their quote we have a reason to believe that you have experienced, something traumatic concerning, Geffen Ayres disappearance, and we are going to help you remember and quote, they, were like do you think this could maybe be connected, to this other disappearance.

And She said maybe. And, they're, like oh yeah that's the Greenline baby fire up that room again. Ridiculous. Oh great great this is the second, time they have taken her out she. Assigned something and thought I'm free good to go and then they said uh-uh uh-uh and, you, go so you just got to think about what. That would do to your brain her. Brain is Plato right now yeah the, police began to question it. Sighs var and Christian, about guarantors, disappearance, and sure, enough received. Confessions. From all of them their, stories however kept, changing at, one point the murder happened on a boat but, the final confession presented, in court said, the men had killed him on land eventually. Christian mentioned, a foreign-looking, man who, helped them murder Jeff inner that, foreign-looking, man was, eventually identified. As Guth yon Scarpia Tinson a former, teacher of ciphers if you had a good teacher they say like write a note to him let him know how much you appreciate it give him an apple or something it'd be weird to be like hey you did a great you I really liked the multiplication. Tables we did you. Want to kill a guy yeah, you did a really good job molding, my mind you did it such a good job I'd, like you to come. In with me on this big score. How'd you like to make a man disappear. Guth. Yan was arrested, on November 12, 1976. Though, he initially claimed, he could not remember the night in question which, at this point was almost two years ago 17. Days of solitary confinement managed. To jog his memory and, he confessed, by, December, 1976. Antlia, sighs Vaart Christian, Guth Yan trivy. And Albert, had confessed to involvement, in the murders despite, the fact that all suspects, demonstrated, foggy memory of the events the fact that aired Lucifer, and Christian all tried to retract their confessions, which the court rejected and the fact that no murdered bodies had been discovered in December, 1977. They were all found guilty by, the court and given, various sentences relating, to their involvement oh boy. Yeah, this, is this is now getting kind of comical at this point yeah they're, just roping him in it's, worth pausing to go over what life was like for the six while they were detained by the police, Albert. Spent a total of 88, days in solitary, confinement, antlia. Spent two hundred and forty-one days, goofy on spent, four hundred and twelve, days trip, Vee spent, six hundred and twenty-seven, Christiaan. Spent, six hundred and eighty two and savart. Spent, a whopping seven. Hundred and forty-one, days more, than two full years in, solitary confinement. They were periodically, prohibited, from sleeping, and interrogated. Hundreds. Of times according. To prison guard Lena Thor Magnussen SCI VARs head would be dunked, in buckets of water as he was told he'd drown if he did not confess that. Is ridiculous. Usually it seems like when they try to force a confession like, this it's. Like they maybe may, not reveal they've got someone locked up Duncan their head, in a bucket. Pretty. Proud of themselves you know I imagine, yeah be they were pleased, with the results while in detention, Christiaan twice, attempted, suicide at times, he was made to pose and recreated, crime scene photos in one, Christian. Strangles, a police officer, who is standing in for given her false, memory experts, say that the acting, out of supposed crimes, can make those crimes more, concrete, and realistic, in the suspects, mind, on May. 3rd, 1976. Art 'la who was not being detained at the time was, brought in for questioning as a witness, she was kept in custody overnight and the following day seemingly, out of nowhere give.

A Statement that she had shot air Fenner she, was then detained in, solitary. Until December, 22nd. Their, cruelty seems, to know no end if, you're already doubting, yourself in, thinking like man maybe maybe, my brain is just blocking. Off that part of my memory suddenly, now, you've. Got sensations, to tie to all the things that you may or may have not done the, psychology, of it is like maybe if I give them this or that they'll, let me go yeah and that's, all it becomes on New, Year's Eve, 1976. Gisli, Guth young son a young, detective at the time of the disappearances. Who has since become one of the world's foremost false, memory syndrome experts. Gave, Guth young a lie-detector. Test that, test, sparked, something in Guth young causing, him to suddenly question, whether he had been involved at all he, couldn't remember any event happening, gisli. Author of the book the psychology of false, confessions, 40 years of science, and practice, says, false memory syndrome which. Can be triggered by interrogations. With false evidence, isolation. And tense emotional, situations, can, lead to false confessions, easly says. Diary kept by Gucci on while he was detained in solitary, for 14 months was, the best example, of false memory syndrome he's ever seen of the, whole case gisli, says that quote these, individuals. Had absolutely. No knowledge of what happened they were just trying to appease the police they, were trying to be cooperative because. They knew if they were not cooperative, they, will be given more solitary confinement, end quote. Well, who's this young go-getter, shown up on the scene because I like the cut of his jib. Yeah. He's, kind of writing in like the white knight I like, you, got this young detective, sitting there he's, probably like hey, you know that guy's been in that room for 700 days maybe, that's not the best practice that we should be engaging, in yeah maybe.

Think About what we're doing here folks oh no no okay well I'm gonna write a book about you, know ya with youth comes a changing of the guard so to speak yeah it was necessary, here yeah in, September, 2018. Everyone. Was acquitted but ECLA who was still fighting a conviction of perjury, by, then everyone, had already finished, serving their sentences, and savart, and Cristian had already died both in their 50s while. Much of that was about how horrible, the justice system in Iceland, was in the 1970s, they're still a mystery, to get to the bottom of so, with that here, are some theories about what happened to Guth moon there Anderson, and gif man they're a nursin the, first theory is that the police got this one right Guth, moon dare was murdered by Erica sigh Park Christian, Albert, and trig, V governor. Was murdered by Erica Savar and Christian, and Booth Yin what. Evidence is there of this no, bodies were ever found, though there, was it was missing bedsheet. Missing. Bedsheet doesn't, always equal murder you know my, freshman year of college, mm-hmm, we, went to Bed Bath & Beyond to get some some. Stuff and my mom was like hey, you. Should get these rubber, sheets, I. Said. Why. On why in the hell would I buy rubber sheets and she was like you know case you spill like a pop, on your bed I thought she was gonna say cuz you're like sleeping, in a pool of your own vomit no no. Anyway back, to the murder did you buy the rubber sheets I'm actually no I didn't buy the rubber sheet I think who, would do that apparently. You because you're getting pretty touchy about it which makes me feel like I just know why we're standing in that room for ten days and then I'll ask you about the road okay how about that is good, you're bringing them back around the second theory is that neither man was, murdered while, crime was very uncommon, in Iceland, disappearances. Were not in fact, disappearances. Happened so often in Iceland, that they feature prominently. In the country's folklore, in the 50 years prior to these cases dozens. Of people had gone missing in Iceland, most, of them their cases unsolved, in the, more than 40 years since, the disappearances. Of gooth wonder Anderson, and get, veneer Anderson, they too have, also taken on in nearly mythical. Quality within Icelandic, culture, oh I'm, buying that because, in, Iceland, big open, fields were I don't think people are walking but, on the on the Reg so, you can get a body out there. Decomposes. Nobody, knows yeah. I'm booking up two years later than that book you might take a Dyson right now you've sold me you gotta check it I wasn't on board until you got to the decomposing, body in an open field but after that. Yeah. A third, theory is that the men were murdered but by someone else new evidence, in the case has compelled investigators. To reopen it a new, witness says they saw two men carry, a third weakened, man onto, a boat the date governor, went missing, that, man allegedly, told the eyewitness.

Quote Remember. Me end quote, when, the boat that was carrying two men and the one Wigand man returned, to shore there were only the two men, on board recently. This, witness, claims to have seen one of the men in East Iceland, decades, later working, on electricity, lines weird. That you wouldn't just if you saw someone carrying. A weekend de man who looked at you and said remember me you. Wouldn't maybe. Yeah. Get, the police on the horn maybe do a little hey, I saw a guy get carried off it looked like he couldn't walk he said remember me may want to look into it maybe like well we don't have a missing task force so so. Do you later you later. Hang, it up and that's that yeah, while these mysterious disappearances took, place over 40 years ago we can draw important, lessons, for today in the way the cases were handled while. It might be tempting to try and cram facts to fit a convenient, theory truth, works the other way around had. Authorities, been better equipped to discover the facts of the case perhaps, we'd know what happened to Goodwin there and get Vener but, because of a rush to find a convenient, solution these. Icelandic, disappearances. Remain. Unsolved. It's. Not often, that I have almost, zero hope. That. This one a case is going to be solved I just I feel that way about most cases I'm really a bit, there's, a small glimmer but this one it just I just don't think so and for, the record. Iceland. Is. Breathtaking. And you should really consider heading, out there men hard sell after this story but yeah I'll check it out I met an unsolved, fan there oh really, yeah so shout out to all our murder. Heads in. Iceland. You thought you were doing so well we're caller. Alright. See you next week everybody.

2019-04-07 01:00

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BuzzFeed Unsolved Network will you guys ever do the Madeleine McCann story?

#PostMortem It's 100% False Memory Syndrome. About the missing people... 1. Maybe some psycho took/killed them... He(or she) had the perfect location... It's not hard to dispose bodies especially in Iceland. 2. They just left without anyone. 3. Aliens... They erased their memories and it resurfaced when they were stressed the hell out. 4. It's the Watcher. Thoughts? #Shaniac (until given concrete proof of ghouls/demons) #Boogara (when it comes to respecting locations)

Will you be adding BuzzFeed Unsolved Rubber Sheets merch? LMAO #Shaneyoudefinitelyboughtthem #iLOVEtheghoulboys

My largest takeaway from this episode is that Ryan is very upset Shane did not take him to Iceland. #ghoulboysontour #postmortem #ryantist

Do some indian mysteries.

#postmortem: Are Gudmundur and Geirfinnur related, since they have the same surname? Maybe the murderer hates Einarssons. I have a theory that maybe that other unidentified man with Gudmundur may have something to do with his murder. Geirfinnur, on the other hand, could be involved in organized crime or had some bad blood with that other dude on the call. I really hope this makes it to the postmortem. LOvE yOu GuYS SoOo MuCH

#postmortem Do the Max Headroom Hijacking

what if they just like decided to leave town and never come back like tho if shane says iceland was hella pretty why would they leave even, or lmao was this aliens HAHHAHAHHA

Hi Shane, I'm planning a trip to Iceland atm, what is the one thing you think people absolutely HAVE to do/see there? Great show guys, love from the Netherlands.

It was aliens #buzzfeedsolved

Do u have any idea what could be the motif for the murder? Seems kinda hanging there

Maybe... Just maybe... It was aliens...

Ryan going through all that trouble to try and say those names right but still didnt say them right

#postmortem Who did Ryan interview for the pronunciations of the Icelandic names?

#postmortem : the most important thing in were isn't the "what happened to them?" Is what kind of friends see the other friend on the side of the road very (VERY) DRUNK, asking for a ride and DIDN'T STOP to give the so called FRIEND a ride? Oh boy, oh boy, best friend's forever am I right? Love from Portugal!

#postmortem ; is the rate of disappearances in Iceland compared to the population significantly higher than in other countries? If so, even considering the hostile terrain (which locals would surely be familiar with) isn’t that a bit suspicious? From a psychology/sociology perspective if not a criminal one?

How long did it take to learn to pronounce these names

What if shane's mother thought that shane is a bedwetter HAHAHAHA

Shane why didn't you buy the rubber sheets?

How did you guys found this case? btw love you guyss!

When will you release unsolved supernatural season 6? I loved those videos

Why does Ryan look so grossed out when Shane says he went to Copenhagen? Is he jealous? Disgusted? Annoyed? All of the above? Explain

For Postmortem. Why do you think that In September 2018, Iceland's Supreme Court acquitted the five men jailed for the murders but Erla Bolladottir was not acquitted. What more evidence did they have on her that they didn’t have on the others? #postmortem #ghostarenotreal? #oratethey?

Ryan can you gives us a pie fact?

Pie fact?

if you two were in the places of the investigators what would you have done differently? love u guys!

I like how Rayn didn't say that it was aliens

BuzzFeed Unsolved Network when is ryan gonna play us a power ballad on his guitar? #wet

#PostMortem Ryan, how much time did you spend practicing these names and did you have a tutor? (Proudly Boogara!)

Postmortem: What happened to Erla's baby while she was in solitary? #concerned #worryingpolicepractises #postmortem

For post Mortem: who was looking after the baby? It was eleven months old and it’s parents where in solitary confinement. Was he or she ok?

Ryan can pronounce all they Icelandic names but can’t pronounce February

FOR THE POST MORTEM what happened to that baby? #loveyouboth

Next episode Denmark? Creepy country you will never know when a lego brick will hit your head!

BUZZFEED UNSOLVED - TRUE CRIME SEASON X • EPISODE X The Mystery Surrounding the Death of Adolf Hitler plz do hitler #postmortem

Conclusions of this case: don't torture people. Ps : do a episode on Madeleine McCain! #shaniac #respectforBoogarasthough

Question for post-mortem: could they be part of a spy group because none of them made any sense with their confessions as they were all different, and they wouldnt confess immediately meaning they couldn’t remember or were hiding something?

Could you cover Jhonny gosh please

I am a fan from iceland, I loved this episode... my grandfather knew Sævar ciesielski and used to help him with some stuff and Sævar always pay'd him with paintings he painted himself, ... Another fun fact Guðjón Skarp­héðins­son was the priest at my baptism. :D - can you guys do a episode about disappearances in iceland,like you say there are a lot of them. or take a trip to iceland and do some supernatural stuff, there is a lot of that s**t here :D #postmortem

for Postmortem: is it possible that both of them somehow left the country undetected? Also how come there were no theories about them having the same last name? I'd like to believe that neither one was murdered, but both of them having the same last name and vanishing in such a small amount of time is pretty sketchy. Love you guys

BuzzFeed Unsolved Network Ryan, how hard was it to pronounce the words and names?

for the post mortem: what i’ve elra, did the murder, but all those iceland guys helped her? and now she is turning the tables and she is accusing the guys? and what did ricky thought of this case?

#postmortem who are the 2 friends that saw Gudmundur when he was hitchhiking ? And why did they not stop to bring him home (since he was drunk)?

For Post Mortem: What if the guys just straight up left the country innocently and nobody knew about it. Or, what if they never existed at all and they were used to create a moral panic of sorts, or they were just ghosts

Must be the watcher

Shane, are you sure you didn't get the rubber sheets?

BuzzFeed Unsolved Network Speaking of missing people, have you guys heard of Alaska's Bermuda Triangle? There's also a BigFoot type creature there called the Kushtaka in local lore. Would be cool to see you guys there on location! Love u guys!#ShaneRyan#bestBromanceEver

Can you guys do the Arushi Talwar case?

Why the clay head could they not have just drawn the face and put posters out instead of walking about with a disembodied head #postmortem

Nice pronunciation Bois

If any of these people were mudered they could have just put their bodys in the middle of nowhere in iceland as theres no people to find them outside of the capital

BuzzFeed Unsolved Network #postmortem how would you do in solitary confinement

Maybe that witness who came forward decades later didn’t go to the police straight away because they didn’t want to be put in solitary confinement too?

#Postmortem Geirfinnur sounded like he knew the person on the other line of the call he got right before he went missing. Could that have implied maybe it wasn't just a disappearance?

BuzzFeed Unsolved Network @Post Mortem how long did it took Ryan to practice the names

Ryan, just curious, were you in a fraternity in college? If so, which one? #Boogara

Why are they not searching for a missing person/body at all?

Will you guys do more recent unloved episodes this season?

did the iceland police ever get any fallout for how they treated the suspects?

So, uuuhhh maybe Ricky Goldsworth killed them! The proof is just right there! He doesn’t even know when he goes all psycho. Every case closed it was all Ricky.

This should just be renamed Shane talks about Iceland for 20 minutes

Maybe the two vanished men were lovers and ran away together. They could have chosen to “disappear” at different times in order to avoid suspicion

#PostMorthem Why does Saevar in Solitary the whole time? How come that Saevar in the Solitary?

For Postmortem: Just a theory, I may be way off the mark. Could the Icelandic Police have been trying to cover up for someone incumbent/influential? They could have been bribed into putting the blood of these two men onto some plebeian's hands. Had these six actually been responsible for these murders, the Police should have asked them where the bodies were and tried to search for it. The fact that the Police seemed so quick to target these people seem like they were desperate to close the case due to both public and political pressure. Love you guys! Keep doing what you're doing.

Do MH370 case

When is ruining history coming back???? It was the BEST show ever. #postmortem

Question for post Mortem: Ryan how can you even pronounce these names. But not pronounce "February" anyway love you guys! #shaniac

I'm you #1 Murder Head!

Wait, WHY would the "remember me" witness, knowing all those people were arrested and sentenced to prison, wait so LONG to come forward?

For the postmortem: yeesh, this one was rough. coerced confessions are one of the grosser abuses of power police have and do utilize against civilian suspects a disturbing amount, even now. God its disgusting that theres places where solitary confinement is even legal anymore, its medieval. but, onto the question i wanted to ask: Ryan, while researching this case, did you find any interesting theories on why disappearances were/are so common in Iceland?

For post mortem :- It is possible that the guys must've just ran away or just wanted to be wiped of the face of the earth. The bodies were never found.

Maybe the two cases are not related or it was done by two different groups of people or people??

For the Post Mortem: I've got two theories off the top of my head. 1. What if someone hired a hitman/hitmen over the phone to kill Geirfinnur Einarsson but they got the Gudmundur Einarsson instead because their names were so similar and the call had bad signal? 2. Based on the fact that so many people went missing over the years, what if a supernatural/cult/mob conspiracy was at work in Iceland? It would be the perfect place if any aliens wanted to do some abducting or a secret organisation based there that would make anyone who found out about them disappear. Surprised Ryan didn't bring up any of those types of theories. Love you guys!!

For the post-mortem: Did the Icelandic police determine a motive for the murders?

#postmortem What if these 2 guys just wanted to disappear...

So.. Umm.. This might be silly but I wanted to ask.. What happened to the baby of erla because erla was imprisoned for more than 200 days and i think also sentenced.. I was wondering what happened to that baby?

how is ryan able to pronounce these complicated names but he still can’t say january correctly? #ROASTmortem

WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED TO THE BABY

OMG, you guys. Humor me and watch your video with the "auto generated" closed captions on! It is so confused with the names, I'm feeling very evil for cracking up over a persons disappearance. I'm frikkin dying!

BuzzFeed Unsolved Network - would you do an experiment to see how long the average Joe could go through solitary and/ or interrogation before giving up?

How long did Ryan even practice those names bruh?

Buzzfeed Unsolved Network: I have a question (For Ryan and Shane) Why does Saevar in Solitary the whole time? How come that Saevar in the Solitary?

Why does Saevar in Solitary the whole time? How come that Saevar in the Solitary?

I'm just sad Aliens weren't involved in this one #Shaniacs and #Boogaraforlife #unite !

What happened to the baby while their parents were in solitary?

k this is police abuse right here.

Post Mortem: okay but like why didnt the police set up a missing person department if people disappear a lot there, it dont add up boys.

hello Shane and Ryan, i gotta ask, when will you guys make something about the fake moon land of NASA? you have to know its an urban legend, I'm just curious do you guys really think the legend is true or a fake or another option why did NASA faked it? I know the two of you are smart.

+Aníta Rós Would love to visit Iceland! See the volcanoes

Those dudes were clearly carried off by elves.

I just wanted to ask Ryan, how do you find these crimes or mysteries? Because some of them are unknown to me and I research crimes and stories sometimes and I've never heard of some of the stories you've discussed about.

#postmortem: Shane, do you plan on going back it Iceland? Hope you don't go (wheeze) missing. #ghoulboysrock

Was their not a system of bail in Iceland?

i wish you would've used the real mugshots of the people; the mugshots are so 70s it's awesome. they're pretty easy to find too so idk why you didnt...

Ryan: LITERALLY no one: Shane: Iceland is the BEST .

Hey Iceland, quick question. What the hell?

Well, all hail the watcher I guess

Throw in Thanos in solitary confinement for too long and he will confess to Killing half the univ....oh wait

How come NOBODY is commenting on the voice crack at 10:15? Ryan says qUOte

for post mortem : so his friends drive by, see their friend wanting a ride, clearly drunk, and with another drunk stranger that they don't know and they just drove by him? didn't stop? it makes sense that he was trying to get home but eventually drunkenly passed out, but why not try and get home again when he was sober? Also i don't really see the connection to the two cases, they were so far apart, and it may be common for people to have the same last name if the population was so small. (also ghosts are real)

you should really pracice your pronounciation..... just a little bit. cus this is kind of embarrassing

Interesting that both missing men had the name G. Einarsson

watcher: iT wAs aLL mY dOiNg

No-one: Shane: so my trip to Iceland... Did I mention I've been to ice land?

#postmortem This just means that erla and the others are just making up stories since they've been in solitary for too long, so there's a chance that their statements are not true.. Plus if they did murder the two what could be their motive?? I mean even if they're are criminals doing frauds they should still have a motive for killing the 2 righ :')

Gaman að sjá þá taka Guðmundar- og Geirfinnsmálið fyrir

Love the room discussion

This Luks like a UFO abduction

Maybe they do ......one person is sacrificed to the volcano God's every year

Well atleast the country's name is pronouncable

More paranormal videos please!

#postmortem . After Erla and Gudjon got out of the prison they were asked questions. According to Erla and Gudjon they did not execute the crime. In fact they were blackmailed by the policemen to give the statement. Erla was blackmailed about her child.. I love you guys and keep up the good work...

i wish you'd cover the finnish bodom lake murders or the case of anneli auer, simply because i'm finnish

This is a reason torture don't work, you don't get out the truth you get out what ever the interrogator want to hear. So what USA do to the terrorist suspects in Gitmo will not get any result more then material which can be used as anti US propaganda by the enemies and to keep the sheep home calm.

I believe the term you were looking for is "BUNheads", or "BUNies". :-D

Can you guys do a buzzfeed unsolved on the disappearance of Madeline McCann?

Candles... WTF ?!?!? CANDLES ?!?! I'm surprised Shane said NOTHING XD

Ryan did such a good job not butchering those names

You guys should follow the Icelandic police on instagram... @logreglan

I would love you guys to do a episode on the cab mystery in Norway. In norwegian: Drosje mysteriet. A really interesting case.

It is still unsolved.

When they mentioned the police making a clay face model and showing it to everyone, did anyone else remember that weird detective that carried around a mask replica of the boy in the box? #Shaniac #StillLoveYouThoRyan

I hope Iceland has a proper/legitimate government to handle these sort of cases now, God only knows what 'Innocent People' have went through in 'Iceland's Quest for Justice' since their Government was established.

they have the same last names because in Iceland your last name is your father’s name+daughter/son

Coming soon: The Purge: ICELAND "Once a year, we do a MURDER!" *DUN, DUN, DUNNNN*

No one: Literally nobody: Shane: HEY Y'ALL, wanna hear about my trip to ICELAND??

KSJSKSKS THE PRONUNCIATION OF THE ICELANDIC WORDS HAVE ME ROLLING

Since Shane likes Copenhagen they should do an episode here

What if those 2 people just decided to leave Iceland without telling anyone?

shane looks stoned this episode

Idea that probably isn't right: What if the guys that went missing were lovers and they thought 'hey if we go away at different times nobody think we're together' and all the people who were questioned we're in innocent and the people that man saw being dragged to a boat was just drunk and his friends were having some fun with him This definitely isn't right but it's fun to think the that the two guys who disappeared just sitting on their couch and seeing this on the news and begin like we effed up

I like your beard ryan! Very nice! Great video!!!! HAHA

Oh my god. Props to Ryan for pronouncing the names. I would probably mess them up badly

Heck yeah

Wow back to back? It's not even my birthday

you guys should make an episode about the case of a child's death in sweden in 1998 called the "kevin case", saw a documentary on it once, seemed pretty interesting

Now I know if you put someone in a cell,.. they would be a polite person..................

For Post Mortem: Are we officially called "Murderheads" from now on LOL

For the postmortem comrades, if they confessed the murder, didn’t the investigators ask them about the location of the bodies?

For Post Mortem: To both Shane and Ryan, which theory do you believe is the most likely to have happened?

Hey who's the father of Erlas baby? I have theory that the guy who was missing may have slept in Erlas bed because they were living together or Erla was he's sidechick. Maybe he got her pregnant. Maybe she hated him or didn't want anyone to find out and told her friends who kidnapped the guy by wrapping him in their bedsheets, throwed him in to a truck and then killed him. That would explain the missing bedsheet and the motive if this case is even real. What do you think Shane and Ryan? #postmortem #loveyourshow #beenheresinsethefirstepisode

The only thing suspicious here is Ryans hair

Im from Iceland omg omg omg

I swear I just was there!

So, how f***ed up is it for the police to not only keep a (potentially innocent) mother locked up away from her 11 month old baby, but to keep her imprisoned well into the 2019? On what grounds?? Suppose she was involved in the murder alongside men. Are you telling me her involvement was more severe than the mens to warrant her being the only one remaining in prison? With no evidence, no body, no murder weapon and a bunch of confessions received under torture (yes, torture. how else do you call this shitshow?) are you telling me the police has solid ground for treating her like that? I hate to throw the word around, but what the hell is this, if not a severe case of sexism? The police needed a scapegoat to cover their incopetency and they got one. The judical system of Iceland is FUCKED UP and I am disgusted with their conduct.

Omg omg im from reykjavik!

Goddamn iceland has a pretty facist police system

Why do they both seem so tired this episode

Who puts the "(wheeze)" every time before the guy laughs? Can't even hear it haha

You should do a video on the Birmingham (UK) pub bombings. The IRA claimed responsibility but the men imprisoned were found to be wrongly convicted and released after 16 years in prison. The police were found to have used wrongful methods in investigating the bombings and there is some suggestion of a cover-up. The investigation has been reopened an closed a few times since then and is currently open

i crylaughed through this episode, ryans pronounciation is so good lmao

There's an amazing documentary on Netflix about this!

okay but why was that dude stealing candles??

There were only 220k people in a whole country? There’s 8 million people just in my city lol

these poor bastards, jfc. put investigators in solitary before they're allowed to put anyone else in

Whether they killed somebody or not, I think anyone put in solitary confinement for days would confess to anything just to get out of that misery.

solitary confinement is torture. it has long term psychological and physiological effects like depression, psychosis, self-harm, suicide, and so so, the mental pain that people in solitary are subjected to is inhumane. we're only just beginning to understand how harmful it really is to the human brain. there is some evidence that even a short stay in solitary can lead to the prisoner being unable to differentiate what is inside and what is outside their own body. solitary confinement is often used for minor offences in prison as well, such as stealing food,. "juveniles are held in solitary confinement in jails and prisons across the United States, often for days, weeks, months, or even years" and their psyche is permanently damaged due to this. so please take a moment to donate to Chelsea Manning's legal fund. she has just been released into GenPop after 28 days in solitary and is being held in prison indefinitely, all for refusing to testify in front of a grand jury.

I’ve good a good case, what about the charge of the light brigade in the Boer war in why it went horribly wrong. Also you could do what William Morris said when he was taking his note or something to the battlefield.

Shane, I know I can just google this, but can you explain what the heck "rubber sheets" are? I feel like it is self explanatory but I still want to hear it from you.

the way they pronounce the names are funny

Listen I love then but I can’t stop cringing on how they pronounce everything

#postmortem What if these people are victims of human trafficking? Usually when a person gets trafficked, people can't find them or any information at all. Iceland is not very populated so maybe the traffickers take that as an opportunity and steal people from there knowing that nobody will look for them since it's a part of their culture.

I couldn't watch this to the end. Too frustrating and deeply disturbing.

My dad wanted me to buy a rubber shirt

Never trust nice quaint places. There’s always some messed up secret like lunatic police torturing their citizens and eliciting false confessions

shane talks about iceland the way rich girls talk about europe after taking a semester abroad

"getting kinda comical" I'd have said something more like horrifying, disgusting, extreme, or inhumane. But sure.

For the #Postmortem : alright be honest y'all how many shane's vacation stories did you cut from this episode

For postmortem Since Iceland's population was small back then, could news be spread that the two guys were missing. Perhaps this caused police and investigators to be put under pressure since the crime wasn't very common. They probably wanted someone to confess to the supposed "murder" of the two guys. This could be similar to what the police did to Frank Dolezal which was forcing him to confess. The solitude maybe had a toll on the suspects minds there fore this could have made some if them think they were in fact part of the crime. This maybe was all done to let the public be at ease. #boogara #shaniac (both great)

For #postmortem do you guys think it's possible the police were involved with the two disappearances/ murders? That would explain why they were just so damn desperate to frame someone.

the names are killing me

They dont have a search team but a crap ton of solitary confinement.

This wasn’t the best of all of the episodes the boys do but they are always entertaining. Seems like just a horrendous indictment of Iceland’s policing abilities in the 70’s. Who wouldn’t question that kind of treatment those people were getting?

maybe the 2 victims just ran away together and the whole boat situation was staged

I feel so bad for Ryan who has to pronounce all of the icelandic words

Lol iceland...we dont have a sketch artist we only have Gunther who plays with clay.

I like turtles

Cant go missing on an island.

When the half Hispanic speaks better icelandic than spanish.

Can you look at the Enfield Haunting outside of London - so fascinating and interesting!

19:10 as in, like, coco?

Is it possible that aliens were responsible for both disappearances, which would explain why no bodies were discovered, as they were taken aboard. And maybe the police only convicted those people, as to cover up for the aliens and not spread fear among the population of iceland??

If theory one is correct that they all murdered the 2 men how come, they stayed in in prison that long?

*gasp*

You have to make a Madeline McCann one, only you guys can solve it

I think you should do an investigation about the Stockholm syndrome

You should do the "Sacramento Vampire murders"

these uploads are so chaotic lmao get your schedules right

2:36 that's what she said

it's nice to have a case from Iceland since I am from Iceland.

10:14 that voice crack from Ryan lmao

Pls do olof palme

If Iceland has so many people who disappear, isn’t it possible one or both of them just left the country? Saevar and Erla just dipped over to Denmark, what’s to say that one of the victims didn’t do the same?

What happened to the child?

Why would she call it a NIGHTMARE and then The police are like “are you sure it wasn’t a nightmare.” But if she woke up from the dream than wouldn’t that make sense that she was asleep?

+Bloody Scourge He's a legend

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