How Artists Grow Over Time (ft. Cesar Santos)

How Artists Grow Over Time (ft. Cesar Santos)

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Hey. Guys welcome on proko my name is Stan Prokopenko this. Is season Santos. We're, in Balboa Park at the San Diego Museum of, Art we're. Gonna walk around look at some some. Master paintings yeah, I would love to come on semester. Dissecting. Those paintings up yeah and then we're gonna pick one we're, gonna do some master studies talk. About the importance of master studies and show you guys how we do, it except, we're not gonna really spend much time on it so but, we're gonna do a little sketch give, them a little taste of what it is and yeah yeah cool. So go, sit, it. What. The kid oh no. I think he's about to jump. Do. You see that oh. You. See that. That's. Awesome. European. Art. Okay. What. Year don't look take a guess. At. The end there you're good. 15:40, but. Look for instance this is interesting because these we already, were, learning how to compress, the value so this is something that they had advanced no. Grass looks, this dark in nature right especially, when she slid open the sky. Is blue and so. I always pointed, out or realize, that because I those. Are decisions that the artist was making on purpose and we're not victims of what's, in front of us right as the Impressionists. Were doing, so we have even though we do academic. Our classical, training we really don't we're doing a mixture, of rendering, in the impressionistic approach, and, they just look at copy I like. To point out also how the. Thing that they had that. They were not controlling, yet most of edge, control. And, they could have loosened. This at you but they actually marked, because they knew there was a difference between this and that so they divided. It they, didn't know the power of loss of found edges so. Everything. The. Story too much yeah. I see that a lot in. Newer. Artists, yeah. Yeah, so they what they look, at little details and they start dabbing. Like. Little leaves and stuff and grass blades like little.

Grass Blades instead of capturing the picture also. The local colors it's interesting that the, grass is green the sky is blue the rock. Is gray and the flesh is big like yeah, so everything. Is local, color I'll turn, with. The details so, also. I tell the students when you see the sky if it's blue it's obviously, do let's try to look for colors that are not there so you can add that pump the the, broken color filling to a look. Yeah so, those are like when. Settlements to to, point out in printing things as these that normally people come to the machine cities and skip it because they they know there are better things to look at right and I'm like no no way this is where you do it. And. I think he is broken that's, why I wanted to talk to you control. Structures, and and you know it a way more than me because we did we we. Kind of studied. With a little bit more optical. Feeling. To it and I kind of look at it and generalize the big form but, every time I see you they describe, the structure, and like, simplifying, air is super, super, difficult for me no really yeah, I don't know how I get it say if I take a picture I don't know how to draw, architectural. II okay. No honestly. Actually, I wanted a picture that I want to drop that I was okay and say, okay show, me how you do because I try and. So. Just, saying okay yeah we, could talk about that yeah yeah simplifying, here in a big blocky forms. But. Yeah something most people have a hard time with that because you see millions, strands, but. You have to look past it and just, imagine. If you are gonna sculpt, it in clay you, can't sculpt it with little hairs you have to start. With a big block of something, mm-hmm, and that's that's, the simple form so. Yeah well please Sam I mean when, I what. I have a conversation, with someone, who wants to learn how to paint in this I think sometimes. They want to copy exactly but, the flesh color formula, is and this is an example that we were talking about because you can see that it's just a principle within the flesh the complexion but you, can adjust, it back up somewhere so Wow.

But I think this is a bad example of, it no, it was like flesh, tone convenient, because it's like the. Flesh tones in here don't follow it. Doesn't look like they're in the same room. They're. Not they're like lining in the same environment they're, they're completely different. You. Know what I mean like, this guy his. Shadows, are very. Red super, warm this, guy is super green, why isn't any of the warmth from his arm bouncing, up into his arm he, it's he's not in the same environment is that guy I don't feel like they're together because of that the light doesn't connect, them so you would have liked this but you wouldn't say oh I. Don't. Like this bangs because of that or with you I like the painting because, of. Victoria. Levine this, I like the way the story feels and Anatomy. Actually looks really good to me other than the hand that you pointed out if. I was to look at the black and white version of this I think I would love it this, is great the colors just don't seem to harmonize. I, mean. Look at the the drapery in there the, shadow should reflect that red mm-hmm. Or the red should, reflect into the shadow of the blue yeah. It's not so they're just they're not in the same environment is very naive no yeah. I mean. Probably because he didn't paint them together like this he. Painted this guy probably sitting. There and then this guy came in and he painted him, right. They weren't together, yeah. But for. The time that they were painted this I think they were drawn they were painting from drawing so I think he's more like the decision, maybe this painting was a little far like. Up in the place or something and they wanted to give color. Because now we have like. I'm ridiculous, right wait this is too bright so his the red is just as bright as your red we have the back in the day everything. Was about earth colors, so yeah excited, rated that so. It wasn't actually that red Hollywood. Okay. But, still even if it was brown. It's. Some Brown would reflect into that blue. The. Life like, they wanted to exaggerate, the differences, in. The colors is that. Why. You, need a black horse with the brown show. You and then they walk into a stone. Steps. Okay, and then by the tie was, like not. A saturated, right right, they turned again. They wanted, the painters, used, to colors that they had the pigments, the only way because nobody's dressed like with this okay. Then they, exploited, that, the power of color to, narrate, the story of the worker and that his burn and I, and then the guys that kind of sick a his green like, is more like the narrative, of it so they exaggerated, so that the people would be like oh. I. Get. It I get that but don't you I mean do. You think that if he. Made. Slightly, more accurate reflected. Lights they would ruin that story oh. But. They had to wait a couple hundred years to write down then do it oh they you don't think he knew about reflected light yes. Banana color. Harmony, in the naturalistic, way like that develop after the 19th century who were all those people were doing it in a more subtle way on.

China. Fix opinion later that good no. It's actually really good that's like one thing I don't like about it it's the color harmonies. So. I, mean, the biggest thing that I'm noticing and, this one is. The. Way he uses light he's. Not just making everything lit, up like her face is mostly, shadow because. He's comfortable. With using, light to tell the story yeah, he's, not afraid to make it the face dark yeah because. He he, knows that it will actually be more, powerful if. He makes the face darker, yeah. Because it's against the light background. But. He is bringing the, attention more to the hands right. What. Do you think well. This. Is our I love what I want to make sure I just have five now so I want to make sure I'll take that back actually yeah one of the places apartheid, you know that that's interesting because is true what we're standing here yeah. Yeah. But when you step back there's, actually more contrast a toddler song yeah and. Look, it from here actually we don't see the full of the skirt let it go yeah it cleanses but, I'd seen that that's what in contrast, to what we were looking before that they were just to it that, yeah. Yeah. And they wouldn't the, guys in there wouldn't have brought in the Browns from. The grass and the dirt into the dress, it would have been like straight, up blue and then the straight up brown and then sharp edge we can I said yeah. You're. Gonna do a study is you. Will know, you want to sergeant. Right all. Right so. Get. Closer I could copy you, copy. Me you're coming I. Actually. Didn't know that you. Ain't. Even notice that about your work that you, soften. Edges well, I didn't know I didn't, pay attention mmm-hmm, thank, you for looking at my work no I. Didn't. Know that was a thing do. Do it I mean look like copies ba yeah but okay let me so. Do you mind it yeah sure. So. Okay. So look at the first painting yeah I start I said the moon offset is awesome. That's. Cool man that's another sketchbook oh why, wouldn't you do that on like a canvas. I'm so afraid to touch this right why, I get out of here it's like you got like masterpieces. On every page this, isn't a sketchbook these are like this is like. That's. Awesome well we will look through this yeah, Wow. Put, a clip legit, sketchbook, especially. For me are so like, interesting. Because you can just be yourself you know, true. Drawing. Is gonna be different than how he shows, it with a brush you. Could still study the edge yeah. You just have to kind. Of put it down differently yeah. Is. It charcoal yeah it's just a star called us but compress. Does, it stay on or. If you blow on it it'll come off of your paper they say yeah. Because you grind it with this you go oh. Well. I'm gonna learn something from you sure, how. Much time do you think we should spend on it 30, minutes 30. I. Can't do anything. Starting. No. I'm just shaking, that's. Just like testy, are, we competing. Yeah. I want to get my I'm competing with myself. And. With sergeant, are you trying to beat. I'm. Gonna do a little a. Little. Stud you. Broke it yeah, but I just put it in I have more oh. You. Were doing it that's, why you did. You did you use the little guides and then, these. Things oh. My. God I get to teach you something what. That's. Way too long. Okay. So you start with the one on the right I believe see. How much longer it is it. Doesn't go in all the way so what you do is. Grab. It on that's. The link. That, you want to start with you. Do it and, then you go to this one just and. Then you do a little longer okay. So, you start with this one. Grab. It just. Blew. My mind okay. And then if you want a longer taper, you.

You, Go, in this one it makes it a little bit longer. Sun. And. Then it's done. What and. Then you clean it and that you already know that you clean it in that thing but they. Know I knew about the cleaning but not this yeah. Thank You mr.. Long that's. Why it breaks but. Because the sharpener does if he goes too deep it'll just break. It no. No you blew my mind right now because I always do it. Just, guessing like that yes that's, why they break. You. Do. You think I should do just the, face or the face and a shirt you. Should do everything I don't know if I can do everything I want. To focus, in a little bit more I'm I'm, the. Face. Yeah. Most. People ask me oh what do i studying what do I do I'm like go to museums, and just sit down and do it like this is a whole school. It's, a hooker, of course. Straight. Lines yes, like, being angles big angles beetles. See. I figured up whom you like this, yeah. Okay, and then, I just deliver it in, whatever area, I want. To apply it. Beautiful. Yeah yeah. I like that I'll have to try that with the background. So. I try. To create mood from the beginning to Vegas if. I become too, attached. To them yeah. A little, vino, wine yeah, yeah, especially. With sergeant you know maybe I maybe. With a different, artist. Like more tight, but. Sorry let, me be. Nice, okay. Nice do. You divide your, compositions, our first act with simple values like you just say okay this whole scene I'm gonna do three values or do you yes okay good yeah, I simplify, values. Like. Right now I'm thinking of just two. Shadows. And lights mm-hmm. And. I'm just blocking in big value, shape like big shadow shapes hmm, and. Then. I'll go in and start, figuring. Out like D the. Things within. Mind. If I use your, stick. Things right out this, just, like this yeah. You. Will see how much to put it on top of your sting, oh. Nice. It's not something oh yeah that's cool. It's. Just so much better. Yeah. Yeah, because he's softer like, you, that yeah, for the big effect this is way better. And. I can get half-tones real quick. Wow. Everybody's, in here now. I. Love. This dude yeah, you, didn't I'm gonna I'm gonna freakin I started. Using this stuff. I thought you were like a fan of that because see it looks like very useful freeware you do it. Is man. You're gonna become softer, I'm pissed off at you that you didn't tell me about this before. Oh being. Trying to call you for long idea. Finally. You got something I give you I gave you a fake phone number I. Will. Do the face but later like I wanna I want to do the face when I kind, of iron it because, I force myself to do the body exercise, yeah, and, I'm not portrait, yourself like that I wanna kind of like just go to it like I'm. Just working around the face, yeah. I do I do like little pieces like I'll put. A little bit too, much detail in one little area and that, kind of establishes. All a little bit more for the Riley it helps for the rest yeah. And. I'll put like the darkest value and in an area just say it, sets. Up the whole piece, it's like I could see the lightest and darkest. I. Love. Comparing, like elements, of portraiture. Or drawing or paintings to to, life and. Of like dark. It's like the nightly start and you were kind of like afraid of anyway, when. We're exposed to a little and, then when, you make a section. Dark, it gives that also that mystery. Or no and then you combine it with light right the soul show clear. Stuff you're not afraid of it then you have to be what crisp and more open, to it I kind, of comparing, the metaphor. It's like that, it's. All too deep for me now too, deep too, deep for me that's which is. Some. Big-ass terrors, of this. Face something's, really. Well. You think you're making like giant. Errors no. No no yours, at least looks like a child, I've destroyed. This entire area, where the lips are, because. Paper is just so completely destroyed, and I can't get the lip shape just, a pig it's like you're gonna start seeing the underneath. I. Gotta. Get those lips. Sergeant. I hate. You. Know what is great to to. Do copies because you get an attachment to something that maybe just even if you looked for, four hours and you're, true for 20 minutes you, I. Don't you. Know, I'm. Always encouraging anybody, to draw because it's, incredible amount of information that. You. Can find out by just. Scanning. I. Think. So now, we're doing. This yeah. It's. Fun - it's like so much fun, like. We're, sitting in front of a sergeant. Right. Like, a real sergeant, yeah we're just like, I'm. Just trying that's, a luxury and there's cameras playing in it. That's, the thing makes it a little awkward, all. Right. Edge. Hard, edges are nice already, love their joint man yeah, no, edge working, hmm, he's. Got these hard. Edges all around framing. The face like in little spots mm-hmm. But. They're not connected they're like little. Spots. The. Edges would be like they're.

Not It's, not like one giant you got out mm-hmm, it's, like a little sharp here a little sharp here a little sharp here and, you're I will yeah, but, it. Keeps it interesting. I'm. Missing, those sharp edges on the eye though, that's like. Big. Ones. Another. Thing though that we. Might. Not be thinking about as. We're. Doing the white is. That it creates a temperature, shift as well mm-hmm yeah becomes cool yeah the white is a cool and then the paper is warm if there's, something really cool up there I have to put a little bit of this as well and. I can't take this use your moshing alien temperature, it. Feels off if you're not a little bit you got to think about a little bit like if I start putting a little bit of this into. The. V like. At the shadow, it'll. Look complete it'll look really bad because the shadow should stay warm well, but if you need your chance to be later use a big pen yeah exactly, so peak was a racer that's. The kind of stuff I'm talking about I know because even me I had to delete after the race, where. I'm gonna put the white because I wonder why it took on the paper or not I guess yes. Cheater. Get. Back here okay, I couldn't see this. My. Ships are gonna be so rolling the Chinese letters are like so thanks kind of like you misspelled, that word. Yeah. Yeah. So I wanted to get up there to give you a couple of access to the face but from here again I cannot see, it properly and I didn't want to oh look. Who's cheating, now. Just. What happened it, looks so different in like the highlights just like look. At the highlights in the face it. Was like I'm, like glowing. No. In the darks they don't glow the highlights don't glow that much. It's. Like the white charcoal has like it, glows, when light hits it but, in the shadow it's a lot more muted so you would push it yeah I was pushing it in to play too much. All. Right I think I'm done yeah all right stop you could know you'd get gone huh no no. What. Is John. Who's. John Alfred. John. Offered. That's. A boy. That's. A boy oh crap. I think it is a boy. Every. Time we say a girl that is a video years going. Man. That's a beep I. Mean. I guess I can see it now, it's, very gender, don't, even think yeah. It's, the long hair but. Yeah. If. I cut out the hair. It. Looks like a boy I just. Do. Kids, are young they're, really like. Yeah. Do. You get you get this problem a little bit yeah, not as much as me no because almost using more graphite than charcoal, that's true you were more into. It it would the sergeant was more into it in. More. Aggressive, with it you was school I'm gonna go watching.

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Proko great video great teachers who can still have fun

Porque no ponen suptitulos en español si el título lo está? Cuál es la función de ésto?

awesome video, you both together are hilarious :D pls do more of these! Does somebody know from which brand cesars sketchbook is?

Never seen the use of those intrument i don't think i will use them because i hate messy medium but it good to see there option i wasn't even aware of them.

this needs to be a series

What's the name of the painting at 8:51?

16:00 why is the paper you're using all ripped up around the edges?

I think that the lack light bouncing in the paint is because of storytelling. like that oldman is one leg in a grave, he almost in other world. or maybe its some chirch stained glass windows style. or maybe the light is not so bright.

anyway it was a really interesting video, thanks

this was AMAZING

you guys are adorable!!!! Such weird, talented people! So interesting to see ya'll interact. Good vibes!!!!

it was great to see two great artists sharing their knowledge and techniques with each other, please do more :)

hahahahah thats what she said, one of the best ive heard

I wanna go study at a museum but I just feel so daunted by it. How do I go about it, plus the pressure from people passing by.

Seriously? Cesar has difficulty drawing something? That's insane!

Entre por el titulo en espaañol pero esta en ingles :c

I loved this so much. Thanks guys

Amazing you two! Should hang out together more often and discuss art

I’m depressed just looking at his sketchbook.

What is that tool used to spread the charcoal? Is it a small palette knife with foam attached to it? I haven't veen able to find it

I love this but wish the sound was a bit better. It's so difficult to hear what Cesar is saying, and I hate missing it!

Could you provide a link to the taper sharpener for that mechanical pencil?

It's a trap.

Goddam.. two my favorite artists together!!!! My respect to you fallows!

that's what she said.

13:40 dayum son"

Man, I wish I could go to a museum with you guys.

"Too deep for me bro" "thats what she said" lol

sylvester1046

lmao

Soooo good and also very fun. Thanks guys.

This was awesome. More of these would be amazing

Great video. Please include the charcoal and applicator in the description.

A Cuban and a Ukrainian left Communist countries and are now successful artists in the U.S. Awesome

u high bro?

good video

الاثنين مبدعين...علي جبار ارت من العراق

Nice

Contrast doesn’t matter as much as most artists think simply because the brain constantly looks for faces wether in light or not.

no balance of contrast matters more than most painters think, try painting a small crowd of people with a single focal character, to guide your eye without it. I mean the whole reason he made that face dark was to add more contrast, it's completely framed by white, you cant get any more contrast out of that figure. study some impressionists sometimes, look at some monet, the most important minutes of a painting are the first 15, where you establish story composition and lighting, the only tool that you have that spans all three is contrast, there is contrast in every stroke and every edge. Its not a coincidence that the place on the face we're drawn so much to is the eyes, the same place that just so happens to be the place with the highest contrast.

Thanks for your "cheater" master scanning :-)

i love this, more like this please

El gran boxeador de la pintura

Красиво

This was a fun collab, thanks to you both!

Man, I just wanna hang out with Cesar.

Im not sure if its right to judge a painting by its color, considering most of them the color faded or changed with time, they didnt had great painting oils like we have now, we are really lucky right now.

I wonder if a painting of that age might have been 'restored' and lost some of its finesse in the process?

no, they didn't judge it by the color, he was judging it, by the relationship of the color, there was a lack of understanding about light that proko was trying to point out, there should have been reflected light from the figures tying them all together, also they should have a similar light, you can argue for artistic creativity, but its portrayal of light is unquestionably incorrect, not based on the fading of the painting, artists at the time were unaware of it at the time. Proko's analysis was spot on, that lack of understanding, however, wouldn't have been evident in a black and white study.

Cesar looks like a the skinny brother of Brett from cowchop

Proko whats the name of the blue charcoal stick used by Cesar Santos 16:45

nope its called pan pastel. google it

I thought it was charcoal inside the container

pan pastel

He says it right there. A "stick thing"

Two men crazy for the art, lost in the museum!

16:39 aaaaaaaaaaa

LOVE watching both of you and your channels I’m so glad you guys ended up collaborating and I hope you guys do more in the near future!! Also “ THATS A BOY?” Cracked me up I thought it was a girl as well haha

Very interessting

this should be a series

this is amzing but for the love of davinci STOP POINTING SO CLOSE TO THE PAINTINGS ITS MAKING ME GO MAD. Respect the art people! Please

I really like these art discussions and if I may have an opinion approach on the refered “imprecisions” of realism about color and/or light behavior by Stan, I must say that even classic painters used many tricks of illusion as a way of expression. Do you think that Rembrandt paintings are accurate in the way light hit, bleed and reflect the subjects portrayed??No way! Its all part of composition and ilusionism to get visual effect, not a seek for realism!

Sorry to say it, but that’s a totally nonsense! Do you know who was Rembrandt or anything about art history? Obviously I’m not saying that didn’t happen in many cases through out certain artistic periods, and those cases are identifyable by art experts and historians. There is always a reason why a classic painting is considered a masterpiece, and the lack of knowledge of the artist who create it seems not to be very plaisible.

I think Santos gave a pretty logic and clear answer to that question...

Part of his point was that having accurately reflected light would not have taken away from the picture.

or either in that time the artist have bad calculation abot that and just try to make it looks good.

could watch these two all day, huge insights

Loved the twist at the end..just like The Crying Game lol

Love this! Def getting that little charcoal tool.

this is great! you and cesar together, what a team!

Thank you Proko for showing me how to properly use a Mars Technico! xD

Oh man, please do more of these!

How is the charcoal dust and shovel thing called and where to get it?

Thanks you so much Cesar Santos :) It's a great video btw

Agnieszka Agnes Michalska PanPastel

Woow. I liked the analysis of reflection colours & their mixed light results at 6.00 to 8.00, Proko Sir.. Also, like Cesar Sir's spirit very much at 12:02..Awesome! Great to see you together.. :)

Omg my both favourite artists together I always follow you guys specially proko Do you guys know each other from your academic days?

Umesh Mishra I learned about Proko, as i was searching for good structure information here on YouTube.

This art Bromance is highly entertaining!

i was literally drawing while listening to them, it was so good, i even felt like I was painting better. (painting digitally by the way) i really enjoyed this video a lot.

The end is mind blowing :))) That girl is actually a boy

Thank you for the info!

Yeah in the past young boys were dressed in gowns and had long hair, until a certain age where they would have their 'breeching'. There's a famous photo of Franklin Roosevelt dressed like this.

It's a trap

Learned quite a few things from this video, thanks :)

I can't be the only one who scrambled to my graphite sharpener and tried out the 2 measuring holes with awe and amazement. Right...?

That was a great watch :) you should deff do more of these. Feeling inspired

It's so difficult to draw children!! I enjoyed your video. Brings me back to my Fine Arts degree!

These conversations :D:D I love this video

Yeaah, importance of "masterstudies")))))

You guys should defiantly go to more museums together!! I love the fun you both are having, and great points in the discussions!

+1

How artists grow over time? hmmm, they lose hair

I love all these videos that you and Cesar have made, I think its always great to have a friend come along for the journey, things just get so much more interesting:) And what a great contrast you two are, Proko more calculated while Cesar almost spiritual.

A healthy artist always grows at a steady pace when properly taken care of. Remember kiddies, always water your artists sparingly and keep out of direct sunlight for the best results. :D

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WHAT IS THAT MAGICAL TOOL AND WHERE CAN ONE GET IT FROM?

I love the fact that you guys are learning from each other!

I don't mean to pressure you but.. when are more leg tutorials coming out?

3 mins in I tapped out zzzzzzzzzzzz

proko's personality is so warming and humble. like someone nice you can always relate to.

Where can I get that compressed charcoal and stick applicator that Cesar used?

If I had to take a wild guess I'd say it was Shizen deckled edge pastel paper, in tan. Or something similar; you see that deckled edge a lot on hand made papers.

That was a 2mm drafting pencil. What you're looking for is a Staedtler Mars Lead Pointer.

"Pan pastel"....thanks!

If they don't touch it, what harm can they do?

PLEASE MORE !

I knew about the two holes already, but that's only because I took drafting and architecture classes back before such things were all done in CAD. I just want to know what that little tool they were using to apply the charcoal was! (Edit: After reading down further in the comments, I see now it's not charcoal, it's PanPastel and comes with the little applicator. Neat!)

I LOVE proko!!

I stop using those led holders because I kept breaking the lead. Thanks for the info.

Acid_Lace thanks for the advice. I took a look at their paintings online and I've chosen what to study in advance.

Just don't worry about the people. It's good to go there with a plan of somethings to study or copy something with traits you like. Most people won't care that you are drawing or they will be impressed that you're doing it.

May I ask which kind of sharpener it is? In the art supplies in my country there are not sharpeners like that!

Fancy Pineapple And if it starts to grow mold throw it away.

It's a Staedtler Mars lead pointer for 2mm drafting pencils. Order it online or look at a place that sells drafting supplies rather than art supplies.

would you tell me on what criteria i can pass fine arts entry test. I mean either balancing proportions or focus on facial features?

8:09 to me it seems like the artist wanted to show the stages of life in a family... the kid and the man, so warm and full of life, caring for the elderly, while he's in comparison cold and sickly, grabbing hold onto the strong man... the woman's pure, almost white... like she's got the man's strength but also the elder's fragility and the kids curiosity... what I find interesting too is the level everyone is on, the kid and the elderly are at the same height and below them is the strong man and the woman... I think I'm reading too much into this :D

nice bro

Only Proko could get away with this.

What paper are you using? BFK Reves?

Yes, at that time young boys and girls would be dressed the same. Approaching puberty, the sexes would then assume different dress. Pretty confusing for modern people!

Out of all the great videos on this channel, to me this was the most inspiring!

Glad that you put no music while you draw. I can put a calm jazz piano music in the background.

Stan and Cesar feel like they're on completely different levels of thinking it's so cool to see them disagree and argue their points to the other

Would love to see more of these while you converse. Only Cesar Santos is allowed to use pan pastels in a museum! Lol ☺️

this is so awesome man please do a full series on this museum tours.

It's a soft knife by PanPastel. They're pretty cheap on amazon

Maybe that's what artist tries to comm. they are not in the same dimension so the don't reflect light to each other .

Loved your different way of seeing and noticing things in the different paintings before you started drawing the Sargent.Would love to see you both drawing together again and again. You are both so talented!! Hearing your conversational banter was informing too. It's a BOY!!! that was funny.

Adrian Velasco Thank you

Holy crap! You just taught me how to use a lead pointer!!!!! Thanks.

It was so interesting to watch you draw together = very inspiring

I did not understand the showing of teaching how to adjust the length and / or sharpness of the pencil ? It looked amazing and important but was it a sharpener? Or an ink bottle? As you can see from my ignorant question I could not figure out what you were teaching. Maybe you could write what kind of materials it was about?

Interesting dialoque and also funny e.g. The discussion of the painting with the two warriors - colour can be used symbolically and I think the painting would have lost strength if it had refected the color in the more realistic way - that is the exciting of art = it can mirror reality and it can show different layers of significance that is completely free from mirroring our well known reality - its about artistiske choices and also very different ways of show what is important -

I enjoying watching these 2 modern masters hang out and sketch. Those were some really deep analyses. I attempted sketch it and mine turned out to be stiff and different (I don't yet understand the light and shadow concept)... The first impression most people get is; its a portrait of a girl (so that last part was funny).

where is Cesar Santos from ?

Δtreyu what about the tool to spread it on?

advancedfirefly its this I'm pretty sure. http://www.panpastel.com/about.html

10:52 Dafuck!!!

We have CHEAP pigments now They used to be rare & expensive than gold & took WEEKS to make, months to transport from Afghanistan, for instance.

Search for "Panpastel" tools

U guys are awesome together!

This: https://youtu.be/UNFBsLJl1Ng?t=61 Was freaking awsome...

cute asian loli 17:29

This is awesome! Thank you for this! I luckily grew up in a place surrounded by great museums. And may shed some light on why the color might look off on otherwise fantastic paintings. First, the particular pigment may have gotten discolored over time. In the 16th century, blue pigment was VERY rare. And the initial elements used to make them didn’t retain their vibrancy and hue, and may have reacted poorly with other pigments causing discoloration over time. And second (and this is likely true of the first painting from the 16th century) the colors may have been restored/repaired/replaced. This could also be the case of why the skin tones in the 2nd painting look so different from each other. Parts that have been drastically faded or discolored may have been restored. Just an idea. Again, thank you! I’m really enjoying this series! :-)

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Cesar is too fucking cool. The best museum buddy around!

I liked the comments on the paintings, mybe do more of them? :) its so interesting what you look in them

When you put all of your effort into drawing a girl and then discover it's a trap: 24:44.

@ 1:00 what a brilliant idea. How is this done?

Really like how honest both of you was during the sketching, really encurage doodlers like myself.

I definitely think it was the style of painting at the time. These are very good artists and Proko would not be able to replicate such composition and story. Really beautiful pieces of work.

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